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FED24/7 Flat Earth Discord
•Created by .blood1380 on 3/29/2025 in #flat-earth-questions
Flat earth
the disc you've heard of is a troll put out there by fake larpers or anti-FE content producers. It is not what we argue for, there are controlled oppositions that will plague your search results no matter what search engine you use i.e. "true earthers", "the flat earth society", concave earthers, upward rising earthers, etc...
The earth has no measurable curvature at any achievable altitude, it is practically used as flat and demonstrably not curving at the rate a 3959 mile radius sphere would dictate - a geometric horizon at 1.2√observerheight(in feet).
That's what makes one a flat earther - empirical fact, not a disc in space depiction drawn up by our enemies which you and most other newcomers assume is our worldview despite how nonsensical it is.
Do you really think such a ridiculous idea is what our community of empiricists subscribe to?
What's even more ridiculous is the leap of logic that treats a vacuum of space cosmology as a forgone conclusion whereas no such thing exists anywhere in nature. Think about it - the story we were all told of an ever expanding region of extreme low pressure with other spheroid worlds that possibly hold water/air, gas giants and burning stars is a 2nd law of thermodynamics violation - in such a vacuum that is constantly expanding where very body is an open system within it, gas pressure would not be maintained and what water exists would boil away just as it does in nature. Not even gravity can reconcile this plot hole. It is blatantly obvious how nonsensical that cosmology is, let alone when you insert something that doesn't belong in this fragile space story, it sticks out like a sore thumb. It obviously wouldn't work within that framework or proposed cosmology of an ever expanding region of extreme low pressure, which we do not argue for. Regardless of that fact however the expanding vacuum cosmology itself which you currently may believe in cannot even be demonstrated as a possibility in nature.
What's even more ridiculous is the leap of logic that treats a vacuum of space cosmology as a forgone conclusion whereas no such thing exists anywhere in nature. Think about it - the story we were all told of an ever expanding region of extreme low pressure with other spheroid worlds that possibly hold water/air, gas giants and burning stars is a 2nd law of thermodynamics violation - in such a vacuum that is constantly expanding where very body is an open system within it, gas pressure would not be maintained and what water exists would boil away just as it does in nature. Not even gravity can reconcile this plot hole. It is blatantly obvious how nonsensical that cosmology is, let alone when you insert something that doesn't belong in this fragile space story, it sticks out like a sore thumb. It obviously wouldn't work within that framework or proposed cosmology of an ever expanding region of extreme low pressure, which we do not argue for. Regardless of that fact however the expanding vacuum cosmology itself which you currently may believe in cannot even be demonstrated as a possibility in nature.
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FED24/7 Flat Earth Discord
•Created by Turty on 3/29/2025 in #flat-earth-questions
Why would the government lie about earths shape?
That question begs a speculative answer. If you ask yourself why people lie in general, there could be a multitude of reasons, which is why appealing to motive, even in this specific context, is nothing more than a distractive topic that will not lead to any definitive answers, only subjective ones.
The fact that they did lie about the world being a sphere with a radius of 3959 miles is all that really matters, debunking the globe is what makes a flat earther. If we can't measure curvature anywhere in the world at any achievable altitude, and the world is practically used as a plane, and all we can do is trust what a select few people have allegedly done, then the globe is nothing more than a mere belief whereas a flat earth is empirical fact.
I think a better question to ask is why should we trust them when we can't verify in the real world what they say or show on a screen?
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FED24/7 Flat Earth Discord
•Created by Ziyadiyah on 3/29/2025 in #flat-earth-questions
Gravity
That there is no science backing the claim of the antiquated version of it being a force or the more modern version of it being described as bending warping space time.
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FED24/7 Flat Earth Discord
•Created by RoMaLay on 3/19/2025 in #flat-earth-questions
Newton
this is a Q&A section, make statements like these in #lobby-💬or if there is a claim you want to support try #debate-text-💬
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FED24/7 Flat Earth Discord
•Created by chris on 3/15/2025 in #flat-earth-questions
earth isint flat lunar eclipse just proved u all wrong
this is a Q&A section, say it in a question form @Chris! @MOD ping
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FED24/7 Flat Earth Discord
•Created by DepravedMysteries on 3/13/2025 in #flat-earth-questions
Why is "equatorial region" of the Earth the warmest?
the arctic azimuthal equidistant globe projection is not a flat earth map. 🤣
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FED24/7 Flat Earth Discord
•Created by eggroll on 3/12/2025 in #flat-earth-questions
Is the Earth flat or round?
you meant to say sphere* rather than round in your question, flat and round isn't mutually exclusive.
The sphere with a 3959 mile radius we've been made to believe in is in no way directly measured by anyone. No one has ever measured drop over distance that comports with the radius claim, let alone have measured rate of change of slope of the horizon at any achievable altitude.
The only places curvature exists is in what curriculum the government shovels into the class room or what unverifiable propaganda space agencies show people on their TV's, tablets and phones.
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FED24/7 Flat Earth Discord
•Created by local idiot on 3/6/2025 in #flat-earth-questions
how do seasons happen
from what I can tell it was never directly measured, their claim of the distance to the sun is a calculated value that is based upon assumed premises about constant speed of light and assuming that their modelling of the motion of celestial objects are precise. So then it's based off of reification.
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FED24/7 Flat Earth Discord
•Created by local idiot on 3/6/2025 in #flat-earth-questions
how do seasons happen
I disagree, being closer to the sun in the winter does not make sense. How weather works is non sequitur, it has nothing to do with the shape of an object.
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FED24/7 Flat Earth Discord
•Created by brokeasstrader on 3/3/2025 in #flat-earth-questions
24 hour sun p5
science is about testing a hypothesis. And whether or not earth is flat is not even a scientific question it's a matter of geometry. If you say that you've come to a conclusion based upon abstraction (models, even though there technically isn't a SCIENTIFIC model whether that would be a globe or flat model) then your conclusion is based upon a reification fallacy and nothing more. If people like you had measurements you wouldn't need such a crutch, non sequitur reasoning, arguments from ignorance or other forms of wishful thinking.
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FED24/7 Flat Earth Discord
•Created by brokeasstrader on 3/3/2025 in #flat-earth-questions
24 hour sun pt 4
if you're saying that the observations of the sky can only happen if the world is a sphere, we're going to need direct measurements of the sphere, not wishful thinking or an argument from ignorance. It's not just a claim that using sky observations is non sequitur, it is proven every time people like you fail to provide a logical syllogism connecting the two things - movement of a celestial object and the alleged shape of the earth. And then in the same breath you ask us for an explanation when we make no such claims about what the sun should or should not do. The earth measures flat regardless of what things in the sky do.
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FED24/7 Flat Earth Discord
•Created by Oh My God on 2/24/2025 in #flat-earth-questions
Flat earth introduction
1st question: there's no evidence of curvature whether that would mean rate of change of slope or drop over distance
2nd question: not a belief, it's based upon direct measurement of the earth
3rd question: loaded question + strawman. Loaded question: the earth curving at the rate a 3959 mile radius would dictate has never been practically demonstrated, so then it is not proven. Strawman: Flat earth is not a theory it's based upon measurement.
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FED24/7 Flat Earth Discord
•Created by unwilling-turquoise on 2/14/2025 in #flat-earth-questions
If the earth is flat, how does solar and lunar eclipses happen?
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FED24/7 Flat Earth Discord
•Created by ogleble on 1/22/2025 in #flat-earth-questions
24h Sun on Antartica
wrong section
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FED24/7 Flat Earth Discord
•Created by Smiley on 1/19/2025 in #flat-earth-questions
Fakery of the Final "Experiment" (Observation)
Hopefully most in this forum aren't gullible enough to provide the appeal to motive/hasty generalization answer that this question begs for.
1. There is no logical syllogism for TFE, that's true.
2. Some of the footage is suspect, this is also true
This does not mean that there are two camps, or two types of flat earthers, or a "need" to expose it vs those who know there is no logical syllogism for TFE. Some also recognize that yes the footage is suspect AND that the very thing they set out to do was a fruitless endeavor (did not prove flat or globe) AND that no experiment was conducted - nothing in the real world was tested.
Try asking a question instead about one of these three things rather than asking a loaded question about the very people who are scrutinizing the footage, the lack of logical framework and or the lack of experiment of the so called "The Final Experiment" (aka The Fruitless Endeavor).
Also: just because a 24 hour sun could happen in antarctica (or any celestial object moving in any particular way in the sky for that matter) while the earth measures flat beneath it, it doesn't then logically follow that the footage must be accepted as true based upon the possibility alone.
So while it's true the TFE lacks a logical framework and that such an observation could occur while earth measures flat, it is also true that there is good reason to think the footage lacks integrity and that people directly involved lack logic themselves thinking this was going to accomplish what they had set out to do.
EDIT: Also although it is true we don't have the need to expose the footage as fake, it is also true that TFE participants and supporters primarily want to talk about this particular thing rather than discuss (or even provide) a logical syllogism.
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FED24/7 Flat Earth Discord
•Created by Syrup on 1/6/2025 in #flat-earth-questions
Tangential question: What do flat earthers believe about the moon/space travel?
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FED24/7 Flat Earth Discord
•Created by supguys on 1/3/2025 in #flat-earth-questions
do people here accept that the ae map is false now?
Which one? There's an arctic variety and an antarctic variety of this particular map.
These AE maps (azimuthal equidistant maps) are derived from the globe. In other words, despite what anti-flat earth propaganda says out there, the AE map is not a flat earth map. It never was a flat earth map and never will be. It is a strawman put forth by controlled oppositions that pretend to be flat earthers (such as Flat Earth Society) in order to redirect, obfuscate and distract people who are beginning to look into this topic.
One does not simply become a flat earther because of a map. Acknowledging the empirical facts that the earth measures flat, is practically used as flat and is navigated upon as flat is what causes one to say it is flat. No map will ever change that, because acknowledging these facts supersedes mere belief.
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FED24/7 Flat Earth Discord
•Created by Lays on 12/28/2024 in #flat-earth-questions
Flat earth question
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FED24/7 Flat Earth Discord
•Created by notthefirstidea on 12/28/2024 in #flat-earth-questions
How do things fall?
Thanks for hearing us out the other night, that "gravity" or things falling through a medium or lack thereof can only be the dependent variable or observed phenomenon in an experiment and cannot be the independent variable wherein it would be possible for it to be proven to be the presumed cause of it happening at all.
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FED24/7 Flat Earth Discord
•Created by Swent on 12/20/2024 in #flat-earth-questions
what is the firmament made of?
that's off topic, the server topic is the earth.
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