Lies r/malefashionadvice Told Me - Topic of the day 10/15/24

Okay so maybe not "lies" but what are ideas that you read/adopted from r/mfa or other places in the past that you've since changed your view on? What motivated this change? Do you feel this shift is permanent or circumstancial in some way? What purpose (if any) is there to potentially outdated advice?||
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seth
seth2mo ago
Sam
Sam2mo ago
well thanks to you guys i've been exposed to new stuff. i will go out and buy Burberry and Geoshits from Rick Owens :linkDab: :linkDab: /j
seth
seth2mo ago
we are not the subreddit
Nayyyyy
Nayyyyy2mo ago
Long coats have to finish around the knee or mid thigh. Very 2012 coded Also brown footwear not working with black jeans
algoresky
algoresky2mo ago
Quality in Clothes is Concrete, Simple, and Measurable. Instead, it's something fairly abstract and goes beyond just "stitches per inch" and "gsm of fabric"
I'm Lagging
I'm Lagging2mo ago
that reopening the sub was a good idea
algoresky
algoresky2mo ago
black and navy not working together
Holfram
Holfram2mo ago
2010s MFA was very rule heavy, about what you would expect from Reddit. So I guess the biggest lie was that there’s a bunch of rules that I need to follow to not look like shit. There’s really only one rule: You gotta put that shit on
Gatan do rock
Gatan do rock2mo ago
Mostly me last year following the basic wardrobe guides and not realizing that I don't need OCDBs and they would look weird on the contexts I'm usually in the meatworld I'm 21 and I'm on a tech grad in college lol
oman121
oman1212mo ago
you mean to tell me my 40.oz denim isnt the peak of clothing
Holfram
Holfram2mo ago
Wait til I get my 30oz hoodie
Gatan do rock
Gatan do rock2mo ago
But r/mfa had some really bad/outdated guides that earlier guides or this discord referenceed (many of which are in the archive now)
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan2mo ago
The subreddit’s penchant for recommending bizcaz to teenagers was truly a moment of damage to our young ones
artvandelayimporting
Interesting word choice bishop
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan2mo ago
You incepted me into using penchant instead of tendency there
Spuck
Spuck2mo ago
That any sort of trends are worth following, if you don't vibe with them. See every: 10 essential tchotchkes you NEED this autumn content mill article
Gatan do rock
Gatan do rock2mo ago
I arrived here first so I learned the basics to spot obvious bullshit but there was a "fashionable colors" one that was just the guy being a jerk against magenta in a slighty homophobic way
Sam
Sam2mo ago
luckily i'm not a teenager anymore :linkCool: :linkCool:
algoresky
algoresky2mo ago
so good because it was some reactionary bullshit against "streetwear" (we all know what the posters meant by that)
Holfram
Holfram2mo ago
I feel like the sub was even heavier on the “house style” re: being reluctant to accept different styles than the discord (and that’s still something we seem to struggle with).
Gatan do rock
Gatan do rock2mo ago
yeahh
I'm Lagging
I'm Lagging2mo ago
mistakes were made
Spuck
Spuck2mo ago
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bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan2mo ago
I was there, when the strength of men mfa posters failed
Spuck
Spuck2mo ago
The "Yes everyone in your school assumes you're a redditor" fit
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan2mo ago
No plain white t shirts is a crazy one to try to get away with I know for a fact you aren’t enforcing that evenly
Holfram
Holfram2mo ago
The sub really was just navy blazer without the majority of the racist connotations there for a while
Gatan do rock
Gatan do rock2mo ago
since I met a lot trans subreddits fashion advice first before this discord I was way more mislead by them but that's another tangent
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan2mo ago
Every so often I end up on Reddit for some hobby thing and the culture difference is actually so insane Feels like going back in time like 12 years
Spuck
Spuck2mo ago
Hulk Hogan has always had 'opinions' on black folk, Brother
artvandelayimporting
Paging @pumaturtle
oman121
oman1212mo ago
ur telling me a slim fit ocbd and chinos with oxfords isnt peak for my HS math class fuck
Spuck
Spuck2mo ago
Thats what going to company functions feels like tbh
algoresky
algoresky2mo ago
tbf the subreddit turned me onto apc new cures which were cool. it also turned me onto not washing them in high school which meant i smelled like a teenager in too many ways
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan2mo ago
Yeah I mean I’m in a blue collar job so a lot of the older guys are like that still unfortunately
Gatan do rock
Gatan do rock2mo ago
also another tangential topic but my primary language is portuguese and it's hard as fuck to read anything "men's fashion" because it's all well-meaning bloggers who seemingly just read the 2014 r/mfa guides today and need to tell everyone about it
Scott
Scott2mo ago
i was a smelly teen without mfa's help
Spuck
Spuck2mo ago
I never really encountered the subreddit thankfully. Just a load of bad youtube advice.
Gatan do rock
Gatan do rock2mo ago
so when I want to see something on portuguese I just go to fem-oriented fashion spaces and try to see what I can use of the advice lol
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan2mo ago
Anyway mfa got me to buy pointer chore coat and I only wore that thing for like a month before I admitted it was too small even for me
oman121
oman1212mo ago
I didnt get r/mfa advice, but i did get r/rawdenim pilled into a pair of slimfit raws or 2
Scott
Scott2mo ago
or 11 :huhh2: :huhh1:
Gatan do rock
Gatan do rock2mo ago
On one of the most trusted blogs I had for other subjects that I just realized had a "fashion" tab, the writer just told everyone to stop using jeans and migrate to black chinos
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan2mo ago
Oh I wore apc petit standards for like 8 years or something
Gatan do rock
Gatan do rock2mo ago
:xd:
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan2mo ago
Now my partner wears them and actually looks good Stolen fades valor
algoresky
algoresky2mo ago
didn't you have a pair with insanely cool fades/tears that looked great on you still
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan2mo ago
I mean the fades look good but proportionally wider/higher rise looks better on me The vintage Levi’s I got from Casey are the slimmest I would go
Gatan do rock
Gatan do rock2mo ago
fortunately I didnt buy slim pants when I first met r/mfa just because the weird transguy guides told me not to
artvandelayimporting
Bishop post time traveling pants
awburkey
awburkey2mo ago
idk if I'll ever fully recover from the quality obsession
Scott
Scott2mo ago
id say that my brief runnin with mfa style was a net negative for me... I got alot of clothes which I thought "should" be good based on the brand reputation and price (:harold: ), but basically all of it was bought online with only preliminary concern for fit. Like I checked my measurements obsessively but I dont think they were "good" measurements if that makes sense. I now find myself enjoying the clothes I had before that whole episode more than the mfa inspired ones... i think the main difference was actually putting shit on in the store and being critical of the overall vibe instead of some "set bonus" because the mfa clothes were "supposed" to be good
algoresky
algoresky2mo ago
the shoe king of mfad (beans) is cursed with knowledge
Scott
Scott2mo ago
basically this
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carrion
carrion2mo ago
"Fit is king" "buy it for life" "quality above all else" buys acne skinnies 3 sizes too small
awburkey
awburkey2mo ago
This tweet is about me specifically I can't be convinced otherwise
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oman121
oman1212mo ago
i still get a bit of this one
Garlic_Sucker
Garlic_Sucker2mo ago
Yeah, I want clothes that last a while. I know they are temporary but I still want my clothes to be well constructed and sturdy, even if its reddity
awburkey
awburkey2mo ago
I think the biggest issue for me was reddit's obsession with being "right" in a space where there are very often things that are definitely wrong, but there isn't really a "best". "Fit is king" but there's only one way stuff should fit. Traditional suiting color matching rules, but applying them to fits with Iron Rangers and raw denim. I remember teeing off with a_robot_with_dreams in an AMA with folks from Rancourt about why they weren't doing full traditional handsewn construction like Quoddy does. Feeling so self righteous about collecting pics of QA issues from Alden instead of buying LHS and Indy boots when they cost like $350 instead of $700. This personality trait of wanting to be "right" all the time isn't just due to reddit and prolly something I should talk about in therapy more but it's one of the main themes I've noticed, especially since moving to the discord where it's much easier to see different styles and honestly ignore the unwashed masses of /r/all while still giving meaningful advice to a wide range of folks, particularly beginners.
Garlic_Sucker
Garlic_Sucker2mo ago
Anyway the ocbd love on the sub is bizarre, because nobody wears them IRL. I do like them though you hit the nail on the head with the attitude thing. Reddit is a really self righteous place about everything
kyn
kyn2mo ago
plenty of people wear ocbds wat
oman121
oman1212mo ago
big shirt goated
artvandelayimporting
What the fuck are you talking about lmfao
oman121
oman1212mo ago
i wore yesterday and will today
Garlic_Sucker
Garlic_Sucker2mo ago
I mean no one as in they are uncommon
awburkey
awburkey2mo ago
Or their stretch poly-blend equivalent
oman121
oman1212mo ago
i see ocbd all the time
awburkey
awburkey2mo ago
Wearing them in HS was definitely the issue. I still think they're the perfect office shirt
Garlic_Sucker
Garlic_Sucker2mo ago
Button down collars are really rare at my office
oman121
oman1212mo ago
oh u getting technical
kyn
kyn2mo ago
they are so phenomenally popular
Holfram
Holfram2mo ago
Button down collars are like the second most common after the regular Kent collar from what I see.
oman121
oman1212mo ago
:gigachad: i just mean a shirt with bottons
kyn
kyn2mo ago
it is outrageous
awburkey
awburkey2mo ago
Sure, but I've never had someone clock that I'm wearing an ocbd instead of literally any other collared shirt except maybe a western 🤠
Garlic_Sucker
Garlic_Sucker2mo ago
everyone wearing dress shirts and polos
algoresky
algoresky2mo ago
small point collars can be good, actually (contrast with the reddit who was adamant on 3->3.5" collars with a roll and point was no good! spread or button down!)
sharloy
sharloy2mo ago
Where’s Peter griffin
awburkey
awburkey2mo ago
y'all I'm on The Shoe Mart's website on wayback machine and it's like this to younger beans
oman121
oman1212mo ago
:xdcrying: guys i dont know the differance of a ocbd and a dress shirt
algoresky
algoresky2mo ago
just buy grant stone and be happy beans you can go back
kyn
kyn2mo ago
oh its the one with oxford cloth and a button down collar hope this helps
oman121
oman1212mo ago
:letemcook: thansk
awburkey
awburkey2mo ago
/srs dress shirt is too nebulous a term
artvandelayimporting
Ocbd gotta be like top five shirt people wear
algoresky
algoresky2mo ago
they're basically alden but made in china because the Grant Stoner had a friend who worked at alden and 3d printed the lasts so they could smuggle them into china as a trade secret to help get them away fromt he clutches of the evil horny cfo who embezzled the money from the hardworking non-union american heroes who make alden shoes out of chicago tanned chromium horween leather which can weather any storm
artvandelayimporting
Tee shirt, ocbd, uhhh ribbed tank, uhhhhhhhh dress shirt, camp collar shirt In no particular order
kyn
kyn2mo ago
what the fuck :sacredtexts:
awburkey
awburkey2mo ago
I hate that i know all of this
kyn
kyn2mo ago
i learned so much more about alden and grant stone than i ever wanted to know just now if i ever buy aldens or allen edmonds or any of these nerd ass shoes im outsourcing all the brain work to you guys
awburkey
awburkey2mo ago
the CFO story is an all timer
artvandelayimporting
Oh I forgot about flannel shirt Hmmmm
algoresky
algoresky2mo ago
kyn it's a fever dream of what i remember people talking about none of it is really true but some of it has elements of truth
artvandelayimporting
Flannel shirt replaces camp collar
kyn
kyn2mo ago
t, dress shirt, ribbed tank, flannel, ocbd prolly
algoresky
algoresky2mo ago
rrl flannel camp collar = best of all time
artvandelayimporting
Yeah Sports jersey number six
adaptation
adaptation2mo ago
Nothing because I never went there :gigachad:
Garlic_Sucker
Garlic_Sucker2mo ago
I see more polo shirts than any other kind 🤷 Anyway back on topic I’m glad I no longer want my chinos to be crazy tight
adaptation
adaptation2mo ago
I saw that algoresky Do you want to talk about it
algoresky
algoresky2mo ago
yes
artvandelayimporting
Oh I forgot about polo shirt damn
algoresky
algoresky2mo ago
but i cannot think of a good way to phrase it adaptation
artvandelayimporting
Ocbd still top five tho
algoresky
algoresky2mo ago
the way i wrote it seemed like i thought hedi was good but in fact i think the opposite
adaptation
adaptation2mo ago
‘Mfa told me Hedi was good but he in fact sucks’ Would that work
algoresky
algoresky2mo ago
but i must confess that his one look is good and looks great on a lot of people i just don't like how one note he is which is why i think he sucks that said dude is the greatest moneymaker of our time in fashion
adaptation
adaptation2mo ago
He started to develop some range in the last few years at Celine! There’s a bunch of cool stuff there that doesn’t look anything like the first 20 years of his career But yeah he would have been better off as a niche guy doing his one thing than at the center of the fashion industry
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan2mo ago
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kyn
kyn2mo ago
all time post
sharloy
sharloy2mo ago
Had no clue you’re a triplet bishop
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan2mo ago
I killed the other two
Holfram
Holfram2mo ago
Am I stupid or did you reverse the years on that? How do you magically fix the jeans
adaptation
adaptation2mo ago
He put dye back into them too Fuck you unfades your raws
awburkey
awburkey2mo ago
iirc those are the years he got the denim
Nayyyyy
Nayyyyy2mo ago
You're telling me an Oxford clothed those buttons down?
Gatan do rock
Gatan do rock2mo ago
Always good to see someone learn how to sew! Superb work! Your cellphone should be kinda old though
goofus
goofus2mo ago
I'm trying to think of any good advice that I take away from mfa
Elvander
Elvander2mo ago
In retrospect the only good advice I saw on the sub was to go to the discord.
awburkey
awburkey2mo ago
I wonder if that's tomorrow's topic
eggtart!
eggtart!2mo ago
In my 4-5 years of lurking MFA it has been pretty fucking useless outside of content generated by regs like how to breathe or 52 weeks of dressing bc they were all prescriptive/ rote otherwise If anything I spent most of my time just reading OT I used like like chronically look at threads like style evolution or pants collection bc it was so interesting actually witnessing people's wardrobes and thought processes than the usually cdb-red wing-j crew circlejerk I will always associate Zach with his shark bag
sharloy
sharloy2mo ago
It was nice back then that there were rules bc you didn’t need to critically think You can just parrot the same advice that was given to you Nowadays there’s a lot more nuance
rebound2
rebound22mo ago
I remember thinking the mods were stupid for banning info graphics around the time I joined
awburkey
awburkey2mo ago
I do admire the strong vision of folks like jdbee to really try and make sure that r/mfa was a place that beginners felt comfortable. The days of the jdbee info graphics are long gone. But with how many other online fashion spaces turned out, mfa really truly trying to be a place for beginners I think is to be admired
rebound2
rebound22mo ago
The mods were right
awburkey
awburkey2mo ago
I remember a time when the infographics weren't all that bad actually. They weren't always an image of a bajillion tie knots or yet another matrix of suit/shoe/shirt color combos.
sharloy
sharloy2mo ago
I wonder how much influence the big power posters of 2012 mfa had on the whole world of fashion at that time period Bc r/mfa was extremely relevant in the worldwide fashion community that period
rebound2
rebound22mo ago
Well I only ever saw the ones of the tie knots so 🤷 Or the "perfect suit fit" info graphics
awburkey
awburkey2mo ago
yeah the mods were right to ban them when they did, didn't mean to sound so contradictory there I distinctly remember a few that were "if you wear x try y instead" and those were what set me on this path in the first place lol
rebound2
rebound22mo ago
That sounds cool Helping people branch out to find what they like
Piejamas
Piejamas2mo ago
Steaming hot takes coming through: "Just buy wide pants, you'll get used to it." I see this advice given to a lot of new people who don't like on-trend items/cuts. It's rarely true and discourages people from finding a personal style because they feel like their instict is wrong and they need to gaslight themselves into liking what they're supposed to like. "We don't really give prescriptive advice anymore" Fashion is just as prescriptive as it was 10 years ago, people are just more ashamed of talking about it now. People will akwardly dance around giving prescriptive advice, or give it and then slap on a passive-aggressive FlexTape™ of "but hey, you do you." "Timeless style was a lie and we were idiots to believe it" I know plenty of guys who bought into the trend of timeless style, stuck with it, and are perfectly happy to this day. Fashion communities have a natural selection bias toward enthusiasts who get bored of styles quickly and are always moving onto the next thing, which is great for the community, but it can give the impression that it's the only way that people approach style. It's perfectly feasible to find a style that's timeless to you and step away from fashion satisfied. "Capes won't be fashionable in 2025" The biggest lie yet, you'll all see...
rebound2
rebound22mo ago
so mfa coded
awburkey
awburkey2mo ago
eh it was more of the prescriptive advice of yore, but I was a kid wearing camo cargo shorts and graphic tees that literally had a cartoon opera lady on it that said "It's Over" in 2012. The graphics were like "instead of cargo shorts, try flat-front chino shorts".
rebound2
rebound22mo ago
Oh I'm sorry beans
eggtart!
eggtart!2mo ago
there was actually a pretty good cotw that discussed the mfa dilemma once how do hobby subreddits have a base of experts to provide advice from if the beginners keep demeaning the experts for actually being hobbyists
rebound2
rebound22mo ago
If my experience means anything eventually you realize the hobbyists are the only normal people around those parts and you start to slowly let them influence you
zeometer
zeometer2mo ago
"just buy wide pants" is often preceded by a back and forth to the effect of "i'm thinking of wearing wide pants but don't want to look like a teenager/my grandpa/etc" or "i would like to wear this style of clothes that entails the use of wide pants but am worried they aren't aesthetic in some way" AND is usually followed by "see what works for you though, your opinion is what counts" or something similar
awburkey
awburkey2mo ago
But it was exactly the kind of content I wanted at the time! I was off to college and I wanted to dress "better" and there were no other fashion spaces like it. Pinterest, IG, tumblr were so different back then. Everyone is on a journey and I'm overall happy with mine. I'm also happy that folks coming here can be immediately told to explore so many rich spaces for clothes and styles that they like.
zeometer
zeometer2mo ago
i don't appreciate bad faith interpretations of advice given by people who a) are not participating in said advice giving and b) are content with their own choices that run contrary to the relevant topic (someone wanting or wear wide pants)
eggtart!
eggtart!2mo ago
i just think that the inherent problem w/ ppl asking for perscriptive advice is that they're all answered by guides or past qnas (reddit history included) and that there's a certain level of laziness implicated by those questions and that what could be seen as lazy or generic answers are just a response to the fact that questions aren't respecting people's time to begin with
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan2mo ago
It’s the years I bought each pair, it was a bad way to do it, I took all the pictures the same day, it’s 3 pairs of jeans
zeometer
zeometer2mo ago
but also uh...common projects achilles lows that was a fun ride huh
rebound2
rebound22mo ago
It is a joke. I'm basically on the same path of learning through mfa as I got to college and evolving over this time Oops meant to reply to beans I just have few pictures of myself from the early college years
zeometer
zeometer2mo ago
the majority of questions asked lately are trying to find prescriptive answers to wholly subjective and personal questions
goofus
goofus2mo ago
i think it’s usually preceded by someone wearing skinny clothes and wondering why they keep blowing out, are uncomfortable, silhouette isn’t working.
awburkey
awburkey2mo ago
if I've learned anything by being on mfa in some form for the past 12 years, it's that this will never change. And I don't think that's a bad thing. Some folks will read the guides, some people like to participate in a back and forth. I think folks feel more included and interested with the more active participation anyway. Also, if you're an advice giver, you don't owe anything to people asking the questions. If you're frustrated by it or jaded, you can stop or take a break
eggtart!
eggtart!2mo ago
i think it's just a big communication/expectation gap bc people asking the questions tend to be a revolving door like the asker/answerer is approaching how to answer it so fundamentally different
zeometer
zeometer2mo ago
about to start hitting people in q&a with
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bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan2mo ago
It’s also a function of fashion being something everyone engages with on some level but the levels of engagement vary immensely
zeometer
zeometer2mo ago
but, and i guess this dovetails into your point, prescriptive advice is less helpful now that people are more cognizant of their own differences and distinctions (which is good!) it's hard to be prescriptive when the question is "how can level up my style" or something similar because that's largely going to depend on how you see your style and your clothes intersecting with your particular life
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan2mo ago
I think you just have to make peace with the fact that there will always be people asking for the “right” thing to buy, of course anyone that understands that prescriptive advice is useless won’t ask for it, which just leaves the people who don’t see that to flood Q&A
eggtart!
eggtart!2mo ago
fwiw i ate up the prescriptive advice like crazy but at the end of the day i would had really appreciated knowing why bc that really held me back from dressing i would see those color albums and think they must automatically match without thinking abt like hues and shades and whatever and maybe even then it's just not deep and it's just vibes but idk i just literally did not see advice that told me slow the fuck down and think i was 18 so :yea:
Piejamas
Piejamas2mo ago
I think the irony of prescriptive advice is that whether or not it's good for you is just as personal as any specific choice about your style, and it's something you have to decide for yourself
sharloy
sharloy2mo ago
Actually I think it’s interesting that a beginner only considers colors really for “does this fit with this” where irl it’s one of the less important things to consider imo So a lot of questions (in text form) are like can I wear black chinos with a gray sweater
zeometer
zeometer2mo ago
i get it though - clothes are firstly a visual mode of communication and color is the easiest way to distinguish differences
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan2mo ago
Color guides are just difficult/misguided imo Color theory has to be internalized over time Or studied at a high level Like you cannot learn it from reading a jpeg
zeometer
zeometer2mo ago
i think one thing i may have unintentionally gleaned from the sub is how high of a standard i should be having in terms of fit/color choices/items pairing
sharloy
sharloy2mo ago
A lot of dressing just comes with an eye It’s like photography and art You have to have a lot of experience recognizing patterns really and one picture can’t do that
zeometer
zeometer2mo ago
whereas in reality either the bar is a lot lower or else it's a hobby and you have a high standard for intrinsic reasons
sharloy
sharloy2mo ago
Why one exception works and another doesn’t
awburkey
awburkey2mo ago
I could be wrong but it also feels like a problem that's fairly unique to MFA. The prescriptive YTers now are targeting a specific group of people. MFA is trying to do a lot of things and be open to questions about archival CdG, the details of shoe construction methods, and folks looking to find a different kind of shirt to wear to the office. Normally those are all wildly different spaces, but mfa seems to have all of those in one form or another. So to eliminate that gap you need to be more specific in who the space is for and just more strongly signal that the space isn't the right one (shades of "just search the forum, you're wasting our time" type of responses on SF) or just accept the friction
zeometer
zeometer2mo ago
the name implies advice given on any sort of thing - one thing i did appreciate from the sub is a willingness to engage with questions about sizing on Ramones in tandem with what color shoes to wear with their chinos mind you on reddit stuff would be downvoted into obscurity so that's different
awburkey
awburkey2mo ago
I think the biggest flaw of reddit is that in order to function well for MFA it couldn't be nearly as image-based as other subs like r/watches, r/streetwear, r/malefashion, etc. You ended up with a lot of people (myself included) that were keyboard fashion experts. It's much much easier to memorize the answers and research stuff like blake vs gyw construction and be "the shoe nerd" rather than posting fit. It's incredible that we can now link multiple channels that are just filled with much richer imagery. lmao I thought for a second one of the insightful comments got pinned but it's just how loafers ruined my life
zacheadams
zacheadams2mo ago
I'm happy to pin multiple
awburkey
awburkey2mo ago
nah you're fine, just the timing was funny
pc
pc2mo ago
i liked mfa a lot because that's where chuck posted his fits
zacheadams
zacheadams2mo ago
I mean it's right in a funny roundabout way
eggtart!
eggtart!2mo ago
I think qnas that gets picked out as being bad questions are basically reverse survivorship bias (?) bc they reflect people who did the minimum effort and consequently get the lowest effort answers But I'm just repeating myself Like it's almost unreasonable to get frustrated at them
Piejamas
Piejamas2mo ago
As a chronic overthinker, I have to go into the city and touch grass every so often just to remind myself that the vast majority of people look great despite not meticulously planning their outfits
Piejamas
Piejamas2mo ago
I think when you're a relatively isolated guy who doesn't get positive feedback or compliments ever, it's easy to be haunted by the idea that your fashion sense is wrong and you made bad decisions. There's something appealing about the tacit approval that comes from being told "These are the right boots, go buy them"
sharloy
sharloy2mo ago
I think the idea that well dressed people are getting complimented left and right is unhealthy bc that’s not really true
artvandelayimporting
Yeah I never get irl compliments despite being the resident mfa house dresser
sharloy
sharloy2mo ago
This is especially prevalent with other collections and hobbies such as fragrance or working out
eggtart!
eggtart!2mo ago
I def developed an inkling in interest bc I went to a really competitive high school in middle of NYC and all the social signaling is massive
sharloy
sharloy2mo ago
And 90% of my irl compliments are from my friends
artvandelayimporting
The real compliment is 10 dudes in your ig comment section asking what pants are those
eggtart!
eggtart!2mo ago
But I'm glad that I'm just kinda my own adult with my own appreciation for arts/design my own curiosity in fashion is more organic and intrinsic compared to when I was around high schoolers who discussed wearing Adidas track pants to get more likes on their pictures
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan2mo ago
NYC a little different people compliment each other pretty often here ime
eggtart!
eggtart!2mo ago
The first two times I worn my beams sweater I got ambushed with compliments I still sold it tho LOL
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan2mo ago
Compliments don’t equal good fit though it’s just a nice thing that happens some times
eggtart!
eggtart!2mo ago
Don't do this to me Jk I feel mortified everytime my friends comment on my fit but for them it's just like interesting how I dress my own way
artvandelayimporting
Nobody ever complimented Starry Night when it was painted
kyn
kyn2mo ago
i dressed like shit -> i met zach -> he introduced me to other online fashion people -> they told me i dress like shit -> i learned about stuff -> now i dress like shit but half of my clothes come from japan and like 4 people on here sometimes like it
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan2mo ago
It’s sad how many people are starved for praise though, like social structure letting us down on that one
Elvander
Elvander2mo ago
Only visit to NY I saw a guy compliment another guys jacket "Nice jacket man". Two complete strangers. It was a beautiful thing. It also was a nice jacket.
sharloy
sharloy2mo ago
You’re not helping LOL
Piejamas
Piejamas2mo ago
I'm mostly talking about getting compliments from people close to you. From personal experience, my anxiety around needing the "correct" items disappeared when I had people around me who complimented me, and I was much happier to trust my own judgement
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan2mo ago
I’ve said nice jacket to so many people, half the time they’re wearing headphones and don’t hear me though
kyn
kyn2mo ago
this is like olympic athletes complimenting one another on their level of fitness
Elvander
Elvander2mo ago
Their souls heard you.
artvandelayimporting
Ngl my wife never sees the vision when I’m getting dressed
lyon
lyon2mo ago
i try to compliment other people when i like their fits because i like never hear any myself
artvandelayimporting
I’ll be standing in front of the mirror and she’ll come out and just start laughing
lyon
lyon2mo ago
the most i heard was from people in atlanta
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan2mo ago
Yeah it definitely affects self confidence to just never get confirmation that you’re on the right track
lyon
lyon2mo ago
because i pulled out all the stops the entire week until i went home
eggtart!
eggtart!2mo ago
Getting referenced three times in theme waywt probably counts as a solid compliment
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan2mo ago
I’ve been trying to be more active in giving people that green light when I realized how rare it is Except reacting in waywt, you gotta work for that
kyn
kyn2mo ago
me, waiting for bishop to finally tell me i did good,
zeometer
zeometer2mo ago
i get weird looks when i compliment people in public but i think that's a stigma beyond my scope, hence why i try to do it
eggtart!
eggtart!2mo ago
Me, 90 years old when bishop reacts my fit
Piejamas
Piejamas2mo ago
One day I will get more than golf claps in waywt
Elvander
Elvander2mo ago
Bricking reacts was a huge positive motivation for me to figure shit out at the start but I still find it hard to not react to people who are trying.
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan2mo ago
Even just acknowledgement that you’re leaving an impression on the world is pretty huge and surprisingly rare
lyon
lyon2mo ago
felt that
Legs
Legs2mo ago
Just a single dumb example but MFA got me to stop wearing white socks for years.
zeometer
zeometer2mo ago
validation is a (basic?) human function so it's understandable to want it, whether we put in a lot of effort or not
lyon
lyon2mo ago
i’ve come…somewhat close to hitting highlights before? but that last ten is brutal
eggtart!
eggtart!2mo ago
I think it's funny how there's subtle indicators for good compliments within mfad
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan2mo ago
I’ve always been reticent to press interact buttons on social media for whatever reason, don’t take it personally haha Withholding parents or something ya know
eggtart!
eggtart!2mo ago
I have an intense aversion to ever wishing anyone happy birthday or anything related bc it feels so performative
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan2mo ago
I literally never upvoted on Reddit Well almost literally
artvandelayimporting
I have never liked a facebook post in my entire life
zacheadams
zacheadams2mo ago
I cannot believe this that's how I kept track of potential bad posters
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan2mo ago
I’m a watcher
zacheadams
zacheadams2mo ago
RES + voting was so good
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan2mo ago
3rd party not tapping on the glass of the terrarium
zeometer
zeometer2mo ago
this; it still takes gumption to post fit and i respect it
zacheadams
zacheadams2mo ago
never had to manually create friend tags since I knew who was a frequent good or bad poster
zeometer
zeometer2mo ago
comments i think are the truer sign of approval for me
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan2mo ago
It’s so funny though my mom was exasperated last Christmas because my brother and I were being nitpicky and she just said “my god what have I done to my children” You better come correct if you’re in the vicinity of my family
zeometer
zeometer2mo ago
or the random "oh hey i was inspired by [fit that did not make highlights]" that's always cool and humbling when it occurs
carrion
carrion2mo ago
re: compliments the more you give the more you get. it's math. And I mean IRL, not here. Here it's easy u just gotta post good
pumaturtle
pumaturtle2mo ago
Hello what did I do
artvandelayimporting
Hulk Hogan mentioned
pc
pc2mo ago
charlie complimented my jacket when i saw y'all on the street 😍
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan2mo ago
It was a cool jacket! Also you’re tall as hell took me by surprise haha Willem dafoe dot gif Every time we’re out in mid fits we run into someone it’s so fucked This goddamn city doesn’t let you turn it off
rebound2
rebound22mo ago
the flow of fashion must be eternal
sharloy
sharloy2mo ago
what’s a mid bishop Charlie fit Is this what they call an oxymoron
pc
pc2mo ago
fit pics are the great height equalizer. we're all the same height online 😂 i was starstruck dw
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan2mo ago
Everyone assumes Charlie is like 6 foot from pictures haha :blushcatto:
Spuck
Spuck2mo ago
Upvotes, I blame upvotes for encouraging 'being right'
pumaturtle
pumaturtle2mo ago
hollywood hogan baybee anyway I know discussion is running its course but the biggest lie MFA told me was that I’d be wearing the same stuff now that I bought 10 years ago if the qUalItY and FiT were good, ignoring changing tastes and stuff like that buuuut it was one of the most influential spaces on my life and overall a net big positive. Love ya MFA! wouldn’t be where I am now without all you guys
mattw2
mattw22mo ago
The lie mfa told me is that if you have 6e width feet and own 15 white tshirts you're also a sugar-baby.
sharloy
sharloy2mo ago
Aren’t you literally wearing the same stuff that you were wearing in the 60s
pumaturtle
pumaturtle2mo ago
👴
keearis
keearis2mo ago
I, for one, welcome our new cape-wearing overlords For me, “just buy kids clothes and own it!” …if you’re a short dude don’t do this unless you’re okay with the clothing falling apart on you Also the fit for a short adult man and the fit for an average young teenager is wildly different
kyn
kyn2mo ago
damn that's crazy if there was only some way you could use measurements to determine if a garment would fit
Gatan do rock
Gatan do rock2mo ago
ugh I read that one a lot and it's the worst there are things that teens fashion do not have my actual short guy goats in no order: - thrift and ask the shopkeeper for their smallest outfits - buy the smallest size and hem it (check for fit on shoulders) - get in touch with a tailor or seamstress and have everything custom-made (second/third-world goat since labor is cheap and imports are expensive) - look for shops online with special sizes - designer brands/on-demand brands usually have smaller sizes as well - proxy from japan or china (heard of but never tried it) - buy women's clothing (straight cuts unless you're extra fancy)
kyn
kyn2mo ago
Proxying is so easy Trust
njoyer
njoyer2mo ago
i was an r/streetwear kid so i was never particularly affected by much of the prescriptive advice except the color ones for some reason (no brown and black, no navy and black etc) for years i didn't wear brown n black but brown and black is sick as hell
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan2mo ago
It’s funny that those made it over there because they’re like dork suiting rules “Rules”
njoyer
njoyer2mo ago
yeah it's really weird tbh, i think seeing jan jan for the first time in like 2018 cured me of my brown and black dont mix mindset
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan2mo ago
One day I’ll find some accessible jive
Scott
Scott2mo ago
I like to react peoples posts cause maybe it will make them happy
keearis
keearis2mo ago
Typically kids’ clothes are significantly less specific in their measurements, so someone who is too short to fit into men’s pants, for instance, is going to struggle to tell what a kids’ size means when it isn’t listed as a waist/inseam set of numbers Similar thing applies to telling short men to try women’s clothing — god help you if you need to figure out what a size 6 pant actually is, even if you have 5 other brands’ size 6 pants
njoyer
njoyer2mo ago
keearis
keearis2mo ago
This is pretty much what I’ve found works, with the addition of making some items myself Going to be visiting Japan relatively soon as a belated graduation trip, so I’m hoping to pick up some good clothes there
zeometer
zeometer2mo ago
that specific issue isn't limited to short men fwiw
Gatan do rock
Gatan do rock2mo ago
I just try it out on person online shopping has measurements guides that are usually much clearer for adult women than for children my issue wasnt even durability it was just style
Spuck
Spuck2mo ago
Jealous of short kings being able to buy Kapital denim tbh
Scott
Scott2mo ago
have you considered looking for kapital denim in longer lengths? hope this helps
Yakkeks
Yakkeks2mo ago
Thanks for the advice, actually found these 36" inseam ones online:
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Spuck
Spuck2mo ago
yo wtf
Yakkeks
Yakkeks2mo ago
The smoking pikachu is such a weird choice
Spuck
Spuck2mo ago
It's a mood
Elvander
Elvander2mo ago
Pikachu can have a lil ciggy as a treat
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