Male fashion and sexyness
Something that I've noticed over the years is that women's fashion is a lot "sexier" than men's.
Women have a lot of options that enhance or display the features of their bodies that are considered attractive, for example there's cleavage, cinched waists, short skirts, dresses that hug their curves, and there are very clear paths for dressing in a sexy way even if you don't have the ideal body type.
Men's fashion, on the other hand, has never struck me as sexy. When I think of a sexy men's outfit I immediately think of a suit, which enhances some interesting elements like broad shoulders and the cinched waist (or v-taper in male terms lol), but suits are quite formal and not suitable for most occasions.
I'd love to hear more thoughts on this, do you agree? Feel free to share any fits that make you feel hot
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Hoh boy
One big part could be that you are more attracted to women than men
But also there's like a billion pages of feminist theory which explains this
Not directly addressing your specific comments just the overall topic. I think when straight men bring this up it's mostly "how can someone who's masc dress in a slutty way that's not queer-coded".
I personally haven't found an answer, but I always hope for genuine participation in this topic rather than "be muscular and roll your sleeves up" because it genuinely interests me how to present myself is a more sexual manner with my clothing.
This is a good point, although my point isn't specific to what I'm attracted to, but also what women wear to make themselves feel better.
tank top and long sleeve collared shirt
How do u feel about like. Lacey or sheer clothing. This is to beans point that this still kinda read queer but I think less and less so every day
I'm seeing more men wear it, especially in red carpets and I quite like it. It does feel sexy. I probably wouldn't wear it myself, but I think it's a great suggestion
I literally dress like a cunt
personally, this is more fitted stuff for me. not tight, but not the baggy look that seems to be the recent trend. fitted enough to be comfortable but still shows that i'm putting in work at the gym. sure, some of the looser fit stuff still drapes in a way that might show this too, but between a big shirt that just hangs on your frame and doesnt give you much of a shape vs a shirt that isnt tight but still fitted enough to show off the outline of your shoulders/back/arms is going to look a lot better. of course, thats just my opinion
I like to show off a lil clavicle and my partner likes me to show off my body hair. There's a lot that goes into it depending on if you're wearing things that make you feel sexy / what people have told you that you look good in.
i think this idea of 'enhancing or displaying attractive features' is really what i'm getting at. tough to do when your clothes are a few sizes too big
This simply isn't true??? Men are so silly with this stuff
i guess that would depend on what someone considers to be an 'attractive feature'
Yeah ig
All I'm saying is your heterosexual male standards of "what other people find attractive" are probably wrong
we get it you hate wide fit lmao
This is peak male sexiness
also yes straight men are horrific at figuring out what people attracted to men like
you can tell the right one is the softie of the group... look at the soulful gaze
and i don't think the question is "how can i show more skin"
shorts and tank tops exist
sexy clothes isn't just "be hot"
Tasteful concealment and revealing of skin...just hard to say what tasteful is
Also applies to figure of course
i assume you don't think the only "sexy" clothes women wear is skin tight dresses or something
Men also seem to think that the hottest men always have to be the most jacked and tall which is not true
not at all. i mean sometimes, sure. but its much more interesting when theres something left for the imagination
Letâs not go down this route tbh
I donât care what yall find sexy
This is why all the best womenswear designers are gay men
Well thereâs also the historical patriarchy segment but yes all the best male womenswear designers are likely gay
I do find this cringe but I wonder now why I find it cringe
If it wasn't associated with the alpha male cringe personality would I think differently
Fully skin tight womenswear looks are also hard to execute well
And the ones that are good are specifically designed for that
Vs just wearing stuff that is too small
nothing cringy about 4 lads in jeans, I hope they had fun. The SEXCORE outfits aren't timely or flattering imo but they're just cheeky lads out on the town (1 million gbp)
im legally obligated to inform you I own a 30% stake in this NFT
Ah yeah, that makes sense. Does give off, wearing a size too small rather than it being purposeful
I think one thing is adequately imagining an other looking at your clothes, rather than yourself
Maybe too philosophical idk
On the "accenting desirable traits" there are padded suit shoulders which are often used for that
But I think that's not the point of this discussion
I just think for a variety of reasons it just doesn't exist in menswear in ways that aren't queer coded? But I would caution against trying to simply reverse the male gaze to try to figure this out
If you want to look run through you wear a beanie and brown suede Chelsea boots
if u can't tell i lift when im wearing a 3xl tee & extra wide pants im not working hard enough
i mean its all going to boil down to what each person finds attractive. for me, part of what makes a person âattractiveâ is knowing that they take the time to exercise and take care of themselves in that way. for that reason, using these photos as example and knowing anything else about the person, I find the person on the right to be more appealing to me. they arenât showing more skin or wearing anything super fitted or tight, but there are subtle hints in the way the fabric drapes that indicate they might possess traits that i find attractive. to that point, companies cut their clothes in a way that makes them look a certain way when they are worn â be it higher cut and slimmer arm holes, tapered waists, etc. but also im an internet stranger who has no idea what im talking about so đ€·ââïž
I think another cultural piece that plays into this is that many characters in media (men and women) arenât portrayed in a sexual way.
Like captain America is hot but he doesnât fuck
But look at any picture of Tom Selleck
If you link the everyone is beautiful and no one is horny essay Iâm gonna cry
Yeah thatâs the one lmao
here are two different fits that made me feel hot, extrapolate as you will
GOT EM
it's a good essay :/
Itâs actually very relevant to this post honestly
Yeah itâs a meme but I like it and think itâs good
I just canât escape it anywhere on the internet
Itâs a good piece of writing
when a man is a bit tousled and wet and a little bit pathetic <- thats attractive
I donât care what people find attractive tho
Thatâs not the same
it's a complicated subject
I do agree that you should dress the way you want, but I feel like that is different from this discussion.
i think what im trying to articulate is that state of being just a lil disheveled is sexy on a man to me. a few buttons undone, hair a lil wet, shirt almost tucked in, geralt of rivia, etc
You just sound horny!
its a convo abt sexiness is it illegal to be horny
but ye that essay isn't about what ppl find attractive at all, it's about how movies are full of "sexy" actors who have no sex
Henry Cavill is just hot tho
Heâs hot as Geralt and as Superman
Yeah, it's a, hot bc it's a hot guy thing
Heâs got building a PC on a livestream
he did a great job, but reading thru the witcher before henry got his hands on geralt was enough for me
but like that's what im driving at I think? If i can see you are a man that 1) is struggling 2) keeps trying then that's pure sexy. Sometimes that's a question of the fit, sometimes it's not lol
The difference is like rn the high-waist single piece bathing suits for women are considered more hot than two-pieces. I feel like most discussions on this for men are just âbe hotâ
Mesh shirts and tank tops kinda are the only things I think can be sexual clothing items in male fashion
Men wearing suits can be hot, but theyâre not sexual
Or at least idk how Iâd buy a âsexyâ suit
White tshirts, loose wide legged trousers, soft button downs, crop tops - these are sexually charged items on a man imo. I don't think ive ever seen a man in a suit and thought "ok let's go"
Crop tops yeah
i think it's a matter of socialization & culture tho. like men aren't expected to be sexy and signal sexiness thru dress, that sexiness comes from somewhere else
like I think live action geralt is hot, but I don't think Henry cavill is lol
There are concepts tho that I think can help. A bit of a trend in womenswear is lingerie style pieces paired with normal pants and a jacket.
So an option for male fashion could be a suit but skip the button down
Lemaire I've always found sexy, think it's the draping and fabric
yeah i have a ton of inspo (its inspo i promise) saved of exactly that lol, a suit with the jacket buttoned and nothing underneath - but the suit must be cut wide & drape well. Like this lemaire suit that i cannot stop thinking about!
(Obv remove the turtleneck)
Finally found an example
P much edgyalberts style I feel is what's sexy rn, which is like that
last year I played a bunch of otome games to try and pin some things down about this subject
diabolik lovers was pretty cool wish i fell in love with a vampire
This is a great question to ask the types of people you are interested in sexually/romantically.
I feel like heâs not dressing in a sexual way at all
Guessing that you're hetero, usually the clothes that play up shoulder/hip ratios, chest width, emphasize the face/jaw line, elongate the legs, all play up physical traits that women generally look for from a psychological/biological perspective
Most people have a general coding to find certain things in the opposite sex attractive, women tend to wear makeup that makes them appear symmetrical and flush because that signals good blood flow and health, and red/shades of red lipstick for the same reason
I have nothing to add to this conversation other than, if you are looking for examples of sexy men, you might check out my past and future waywt posts đ
I knew we couldnât get thru this without someone saying âbiologicallyâ
A good male example (imo) is a well fitted suit worn with a button down shirt that has a few buttons undone, because is does a great job framing the face, playing up and helping with the hip/shoulder ratio, the buttons undone helps emphasize that "v" shape, and showing some skin usually helps with the sexy vibes
It's a good basis to start from, it gets a really bad rap nowadays because people were way to simplistic with it, took it to be a written in stone immutable truth for all, and forgot all the nuance involved.
Itâs the worst place to start from
What alot of people that pay too much attention to the biological part in dress miss when talking about this is that no amount of being well dressed will offset a terrible personality, and alot of people that talk about this do tend to use it as a way to hide and not fix their personality (imo)
Thatâs not the bad part actually
You misunderstand me
I donât want to get laid
I want to dress like a slut
The bad part is all the pop psychology bullshit that people use to justify a bunch of specific beauty standards being truer than other ones
And causing a whole lot of people to feel like shit
There's alot of pop psychology that gets wrapped up with it and can be hard to sort out, yes
No itâs all pop psychology
Thereâs no wrapped up
Itâs bullshit
No one needs to hear it
All of it is pop psychology? The entirety of evolutionary psychology is bullshit?
i want a guy in a suit because he has the physical traits that i want in a child when he gets me (a man with none of the right parts) pregnant
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There is no reason to bring up any of this in this server
Debate it in your psych server
no carrion is right
I have no patience for beauty standard nonsense
What is sexy is complex and even that word as it's being used isn't all that well defined, slutty isn't always sexy isn't always sensual, but usually people will use sexy to mean any or all
I donât care what you find attractive in a woman or why you think that is true
when I discuss sexiness I wear a shroud over my head to hide the shame from God like I'm eating ortolan
There is alot that goes into what someone finds sexy, you in yourself or you in someone else. The psychology of it has parts that are biological, sociological, etc. Different cultures, different times, alot of things go into constructing what it means to be sexy
Woah I had not heard of this that is wiiiild
I just told you I donât care and this isnât the place
I understand you saying that the biological aspect is rife with pseudoscience, that's it's just one part of a much larger picture, and that it's a piece you find small and irrelevant
me and the crew discussing smut
The topic is rife with all sorts of things that donât belong here, let it go
I actually think the topic of the discussion has been almost entirely missed, and thatâs why does fashion seem to have a different lens through which it views menswear and womenswear
Not what makes you think someone is hot
I was in no way meaning to offend anyone, so I'm sorry if I touched a nerve
jokes aside this is the truth and I'd be interested in another fashion-discussion post dissecting why that is
maybe clothes was a mistake
adam and eve had it wrong
a lot of what many consider sexy for men tend to revolve around how it affects peoples perception about them rather than anything specifically physical.
when i think sexual male design i think like
celine homme summer 23
using cropped and oversized sillhouettes to create this effect where even though you're for the most part fully clothed
you get a lot of like
hip bone, clavicle, etc
lines of that nature that lead the eye
Yes that Hediâs first @adaptation
i'd love to talk about this instead because i think the reason that this discussion has been so disjointed is really interesting
he debuted in like 2018 no?
at celine
HAS IT BEEN THAT LONG
debut sept 28 2018
Wow Iâm just seeing this look the professorial top with the leather pants is sooo cool
just googled it
its quite good
Oh my god sorry
does k-pop fashion have any revlance in this topic lmao
yeah no that is the winter actually
No it was, @adaptation youâre right was looking at both
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heres summer if you want
the collection has some big misses but i cant not love it because the highs are so high
Could say that about Hediâs whole output for me tbh
fair enough
there are some big styling misses with pieces that look better in the campaigns though
including my favorite piece from the collection
This jacket
which got done very dirty on runway imo
Think I got lost in the sauce of what I think I find attractive in men's fashion cause it's such a nuanced topic. Cause the obvious answer you'd think would be showing more skin, etc but ultimately men are in a position of power where if they dressed scantily it would give more vibes of being a predator.
Maybe predator is the wrong word but like, it more often gives the impression of having bad intentions? Though yeah it's more situational and nuanced.
are you looking for the word like
seedy
or something along those lines?
because there can be a very 'diirtbag' feel to a lot of the looks that are 'sexy'
Yeah seedy would be more appropriate
even with women's wear, sexy to me isnt just showing skin, yknow? it's def hard to like, define, because it's all vibes.
like to me pants/shoes interaction as a term means nothing. I could not tell u why I think there is a good pantshoeinteract, but I can say "shoes look wack here"
in the same way i can tell you i think someone is sexy, but the clothes by themselves arent usually where sexy starts or ends
My thinking was more along the lines of more explicitly sexy but yeah it's hard to define.
Like with womenswear there are clothes that were designed with the intent of looking appealing. There's that empowering feeling of oh man I look sexy in this. Whereas for men it's more blurry?
Because attraction is mainly based on social perceptions, although it sounds antithetical, it does feel like currently it falls more along the lines that men are more sexy dressed?
what about shapewear? i think it can be argued that those types of garments primarily serve the purpose of making the wearer look more 'appealing'
though i guess most people would be wearing that stuff under their regular clothes so maybe it doesnt count
The more related and clear version would be corsets
Which are shaping and have a lot of complex history but are also a major part of the fashion lexicon wrt womenswear
Think about how many garments have corset elements even when they arenât intended to shrink your waist in the same way
It has a complex place in the culture that designers can use and pull in different directions
hmmm lot of comments in here and none of them are about my fits
the wet rat look
Men can dress a little cunty, as a treat
I think it has a lot to do with intentional revealing of skin with details that attract the eye to those parts that are revealed: see lace and or straps. Moreover there are a lot of interesting details on a body that aren't just height and muscle. I think... the best clothing that works in a sexy way is trying to emphasise the detail and beauty of a body, as opposed to working with some sort of "ideal form".
I also think that the lack of a drive for overly erotic male clothing is one thing and one thing only: There's a lot of homophobia out there.
I feel like those slouchy Armani suits would like a word with you. Some of the suit wearing in Bazâs Romeo and Juliet was pretty sexy too
reading through, but um that's just cz edgyalbert is hot and fit
What about when someone who is less conventionally attractive wears something similar? Like Gabriel Mor or David Lane. Not that those guys are bad looking or ugly. Just less hot than Albert.
I havenât read through this whole thread yet but my initial thoughts are something like the big pant small shirt or short shorts with big over shirt.
I don't really know who David Lane is, but I've come across quite a few of Gabriel Mor and it definitely doesn't fit the sexy vibe to me. I like his style still, but Albert makes it work so much better just because he is attractive
I think the same principle applies to like Daniel Simmons, if a guy that wasn't as attractive was wearing his fits, most people wouldn't bat an eye
and I don't mean that Daniel's style is bad, I really like it, but I think the person being attractive is what draws the larger crowds in
oh i was talking about the style in general when i mentioned albert. hes not personally my type but i think the style is sexy in general. the whole tank top showing some skin while the pants cinches the waist
i feel like the cheat code to 'sexy' menswear is 90% being hot - broad shoulders and chest, narrow waist, etc etc
aside from the instances where brands intentionally make sexy clothing (slickitup comes to mind but then again i am a đŹ so) it's mostly designing clothes to feature this - suits with half-buttoned shirts, tank tops, never seeing someone's kneecaps, etc etc
Gutted i missed this convo
Can someone summarize
it had potential but this isn't the right place for this discussion
don't think any conclusions were reached
Went completely off the rails lol
dare i scroll up
Itâs not that bad, just off-topic quite a bit
A lot of âI find it sexy when men do Xâ
this mostly from straight men so don't trust it
It would be interesting to discuss the female gaze I feel
definetly not on this server
Many will argue this is not a thing
We managed to avoid ârolled up sleevesâ but did get a hit on âattracted biologicallyâ
Fair enough
very meme able topic
If you actually look into the writing behind what "the male gaze" it would make no sense for an equivalent "female gaze" to be a thing
I have a friend who this is their hobby horse lol
Any primers?
I'll ask them
I'm always uncritically repeating things smarter friends tell me đ
I presume itâs related to power dynamics and systemic power structures but interested to actually do the work a bit
im sure theres feminist literature on it
but i don't know where to find it
Same lol
The origin of the term is the 1972 docuseries Ways of Seeing though
And the book which was adapted from it
Oh that wasn't so bad after all
fwiw i laughed a few times reading and think a sense of humor is sexy so mission accomplished?
but really it's like...be hot and show your clavicle. not a lot of variance in menswear tbh
heres a thought
âIs not the most erotic portion of a body where the garment gapes? In perversion (which is the realm of textual pleasure) there are no "erogenous zones" (a foolish expression, besides); it is intermittence, as psychoanalysis has so rightly stated, which is erotic: the intermittence of skin flashing between two articles of clothing (trousers and sweater), between two edges (the open-necked shirt, the glove and the sleeve); it is this flash itself which seduces, or rather: the staging of an appearance-as-disappearance. â
No collar gaps arent sexy 
Not entirely. It works along different lines, as a way of looking back and not just an inversion of roles. bell hooks for example conceptualized an oppositional (black female) gaze. There are also critiques of Mulvey coming from the bdsm side, critiquing the underlying Freudian theory. If I recall correctly there is also some writing by the lesbian bdsm collective Samois on looking/gazing.
Edit: after a bit of searching I found the paper. Turns out it is a critique based on Deleuzes analysis of masochism. I only have the German full text. But maybe someone has access or you could try sci hub. If I recall correctly it is a really interesting paper. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10509208409361219
Anyway why hasn't anyone mentioned leather jackets yet
I feel like there is a lot more to dressing sexy than just showing more skin or muscle
High waisted jeans with a white t shirt and a leather jacket are quintessentially masculine sexy
Also I think accessories can signal sexiness, like earrings and necklaces
Don't forget sunglasses
I would like to express more in my style/clothing, hopefully feel more confident or comfortable in my own skin
Iâve wanted to get into jewellery
I dont think it has anything to do with male fashion, its about male body, revealing body parts doesnt make a man look sexy. with the exception of shorts (if one has big calves shorts look sexy), shirts sweater jackets etc. (if one has broad shoulders), or grey sweatpants (if you have .. you know); unless you have good genetics or workout, no clothing can make a man look sexy. but females have lots of options and they dont need workout or much genetics
Holy shit dude
revealing body parts doesnt make a man look sexy.source?
I donât work out
Iâm sexy as fuck boy
"females" đđ
Females can put in no work and get mates???
I'm just impressed youre always on valorant while posting these things
next level multitasking
Calm down Andrew Tate
Can u elaborate on good genetics pls
Genetics are very important for humans, and by extension, our social structures. For example, if your genes are different it might mean that you are a tomato or a fish or something other than a human. So its important to have good human genes if you want to be a human
men with good genetics have broad shoulders and thick calves
I was kidding
oh okay
Thick Calves?
lol
TIL multiple time UFC champion Jon Jones has bad genetics
Perfect genetics
Please make it stop
no I want to hear more
I donât tbh
hey you're playing word games with me! good in "good genetics" means sexy, not better than something else
he just has ordinary genetics
Vali, I think the point people are trying to make is the way youâve put together this post sounds really incel adjacent and most people arenât here for it.
Hey if you find big calves on men sexy all power to you, just know your preferences in men and clothes are very much not universal
This is such a sad way to think dawgâŠ.
finding big calves sexy is a common thing, if you are attracted to non-feminine male people
I tried
....are you attracted to non-feminine male people?
well yes
Lol "non feminine male people"
So this is like personal preference then?
what's funny about that? there is diversity and gotta respect that
I..
No, I'm out
well no, big calves attract women, maybe not all but it's not a rare thing, it's also what I find attractive
At first I thought you were dog whistling but you might just have the worst takes Iâve ever seen and a very fucked worldview
Iâve literally never had a woman comment on my calf size and theyâre disproportionately large.
So I should describe my wife as a feminine non-male person?
But thatâs besides the point lol
what if we go back to posting funny gifs of cows?
nice calves but they could be bigger
too true
Dude, stop listening to Andrew Tate, Joe Rogan, Jordan Peterson, etc.
hi đ my husband has smaller than average calves and i find him sexy
thought that anecdote would help
but I never listen to those people, I just said that unless one has big calves or broad shoulders , no clothing can look sexy
and it's my opinion
that is still completely unhinged
you're entitled to your opinion but also that's an insane take
and reductive
Can look sexy to you or in general?
my husband has broad shoulders and big calves, he's very much a twink tho...
Well, I guess all hope for me is lost. Brb telling my wife she needs to divorce me.
What do I tell my friend whose celebrity crush is timothee chalamet
power twink đȘđ»
why are you telling that? when there is love, your wife will find anything you wear sexy because she loves you and her emotions change
(for purposes of clarity one can be a power twink without big calves or broad shoulders)
What do I tell my wife whose celebrity crush is Louis Theroux??
So is it just a weird way of saying "Clothes have no relation to sexiness" or am I misinterpreting?
Because she is a woman and driven by emotions? Is that what you are saying?
(I did not realise this was a real term and I cede the floor)
to a degree
Dude, just stop. Stop digging.
I don't know what you're trying to argue here, but you're not going to find any takers.
How did you come to these ideas
this is such a random one hahaha
no ideas, I'm just telling what I find sexy, or not
it's emotion
If she had good taste she would not have married me :xd:
okay is it emotion or genetics then
you post cows but not Alistar? shame
@rej get in here
We league posting now??
Yes đ
vayne is not a cow
Who mogs, Yone or Yasuo Vali?
Yone with his abs
Smh I canât believe a thread called âmale fashion and sexynessâ fostered such insane conversation
Yes, however you are framing your conception of attractiveness as a universal fact that everyone experiences rather than your own personal taste
The one in my last ranked game was
also speaking on behalf of all women in the process
I'm too sexy for this thread.
Between these comments, and your previous thread i think its time for you to :post: :fit:
I saw a video on tiktok, a man was wearing shorts and had thick calves, comments were full of women commenting on his calves, and those shorts the man wore, become sexy by default
thats how sexiness works
Ok and that is their taste
oh god
That's self selecting
one tik tok video is not statistically significant
Going to go make dinner. Which is hella sexy, my dudes.
please learn data literacy
There are conventional body standards that many people find attractive that a) vary by culture and are not universal and b) are not representative of all people
Is that what youâre referring to?
extremely incorrect buzzer noise
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You can just say what you like, you don't have to try to make your positions objective
I think that's what people are getting hung up on
@Vali answer me
I can't really understand
big calves attracting "females" might be universal like bobs attracting "males"
and broad shoulders too
For most cultures, there is a set of body characteristics that are considered âidealâ- a âbeauty standardâ if you will- but it isnât the be all end all of attractiveness for a few reasons
First of all it doesnât transcend culture- different cultures have different traits in their beauty standard
And also many people arenât exclusively attracted by those traits and in many cases arenât attracted to those traits at all
would you kindly source this 'universal' claim regarding bobs attracting "males" quote-unquote?
yeah bobs are hot
if that was a typo for boobs, a source would greatly be appreciated still
many "males" enjoy a particular "sponge" bob
but maybe not in a sexual way, idk though i cant speak for everyone
Love bob
source is me
pretty reliable actually
Bruh đđđ
God i love myself
alright everyone
So this is true for you personally
Which is different than it being true universally
Iâm leaving at the end of the first quarter I canât do this anymore man
gigachad â i said soâ vs cucked âsource?â
this is your official mod notice to chill out. definitely some weird comments being made, like this ^
people trolling in here knock it off as well. i will just kill this thread if y'all cannot behave
Can we still talk about clothes
Like I am actually interested in the topic of discussion
yes
can you just send a pic of "sexy" (your view) male clothing if there is any to invalidate me?
@Vali drop it or im just going to time you out
itâs highly subjective man, you have people in here literally telling you they are the exception
I dropped it and asked a question about sexy male clothing so we can discuss further
to what ur saying
no you are being obviously argumentative, smartass
take a walk
timed out
Are you referring to the comments you made way earlier? You might have to repost them theyre hard to find now
My previous post
thanks. I think what OP was saying was traditionally sexy clothes for men and women are different, and they were asking why
one thing I will say is that a lot of attractive clothing is actually just trendy clothing
like you say you can be sexy without showing skin, but that is not whats historically been considered sexy for women
At least not in the last few decades
like u see tiktok posts wtih 500k likes âboys who wear stussy>>>â u feel me
and maybe the non-streetwear version of that is higher rise pants etc, stuff like edgyalbert on tiktok
And being attracted to someoneâs clothes and being attracted to them physically is inevitably intertwined, not saying there is an one ideal attractive male physique
Well the obvious reason is the patriarchy of course
For me, the easiest way to approach the question is very literally, thinking of sexiness as "evocative of sex". So the question becomes why ar there more options for women to evoke sex than men. And that is largely because women are more sexualized in mass media imo, so the possible sartorial vocabulary of clothing associated with sex to pull from is larger.
yeah definitely
i would argue those are not inherently sexy but rather pushed by society/media/a relic of previous generations
also fit is king and fit is sexy
Well what is inherently sexy?
That said, even with less to pull from, there are definitely sexy items for men imo. I didn't see much discussion of queer fashion above
Yeah the initial question was pretty straight-coded
Is little black dress inherently sexy or also pushed by media and previous generations?
I totally misunderstood the question because of this lmfao
I don't think it was phrased well
I still don't know what I'm supposed to be discussing
ur supposed to be discussing why im so male fashion and sexyness
I don't think inherent sexiness is something we can discuss
Because we all have context, the little black dress doesn't exist in a vacuum for anyone
Is there a difference?
Exactly thats why I asked the question
The little black dress fell out of a coconut tree
i would argue clothing for menswear is not inherently sexy because we (a male-led heteronormative society) are not conditioned to want/need/desire men as sexual objects, thus there's no need for menswear to be sexy
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I think a leather jacket and high waisted jeans on men is sexy
Someone in here has to be terminally online enough to get this please
Sigh
LFG
I think the interesting discussion to have that isnât just âhow can I dress sexyâ is about the lens that fashion views womenswear and menswear and why sexiness is much more prevalent as a through line in the former vs the latter
Talking about what people find sexy in the specific is useless
How about rock stars, movie stars, etc? There are men who are lusted over in public
Talking about fashion design and how we see those differences reinforced or broken down is much more on topic
they all wear different types of clothing though
i mean I think what attractive celebs wear becomes linked to sexiness in menâs clothing
Sure, women do as well
like the âjacob elordi styleâ etc
If youâre gonna talk on this topic I think itâs really important to use pictures and sources actually within fashion
the person is deemed sexy, often due moreso to their talents or, yes, physical appearance, and then their clothes are retrofitted into their conversation
Because âwhat do people find sexyâ is just so absurdly broad as to be useless
yes? thatâs what Iâm saying haha
and it becomes intertwined
i agree! discord spaced out my follow up comment
Oh gotchu
if one is looking for a contemporary example for what i'd consider "sexy" menswear louis gabriel nouchi's SS23 collection fits the bill
https://www.fashionotography.com/lgn-louis-gabriel-nouchi-ss-2023-pfw/?amp
i mean
i think ur just falling into the trap that clothing that emphasizes menâs bodies is attractive
but even within that there's several different types of garments
Are the clothes sexy or is Marlon Brando just fucking hot
Both
The rebel archetype is also hot
so you'd disagree with the premise fashion emphasizes sexiness in women's designs far more than in men's designs
Because you disagree what sexiness means
If I'm understanding
Me rn
No, I definitely agree with the statement. I just think there are also some classic styles that are universally seen as sexy on men
Like this
Itâs very important to note that I am shitposting
'seen as sexy' or 'designed to be sexy'
Yes if you would be serious you wouldnt have cropped their shoes
there's a distinction imo
And I feel it's reductive to only see sexy clothes as showing skin or muscle
Well you could get a bdsm leather jacket and it would definitely be designed for sexyness
is brando wearing a bdsm jacket
No, but Brando created the archetypical character 'rebel with a leather jacket'
And the leather fetish thing was partly built on that
leather jackets were functional garments first and foremost
Wait rly
TIL
I feel like brandos character in the movie leading to the popularization of that style is very different from the topic at hand
This bit to clarify
But it did put his sexyness and the style together
That feels more like a discussion on celebrity influence on fashion
More pop culture influence I would say
Anyway: more fun to discuss than genes
i mean in terms of male fashion and sexyness celebrity influence is undoubtedly huge?
that is circling around the point that society deems an individual or archetype as sexy before the actual clothing
if brando wore a polo shirt and chinos and did the same thing would people still find him sexy
Other example: slouchy 70s suit a la Mick Jagger
Those things can't be separated imo
I would not!
you can imo because not every guy that wears a leather jacket, t shirt and jeans is considered sexy
Same for a little black dress
and there's a far wider variance of 'how' sexy one is that wears that than a LBD
no one/no thing is considered universally sexy so im not sure how this really makes sense
combining those suggests if an individual is sexy because their clothes are sexy then anyone who wears those same clothes would be sexy whch i disagree with
Clothes can't be separated from the person that wears them, or the fashion language / archetype it's conveying
Saying a piece of clothing is sexy doesnt mean people will magically become hot when wearing it
It also doesn't mean that if you take it away Marlon Brando will cease to be hot
we are saying or else believe the same thing iirc
I think so
i was going to offer up prince as an alternative to male 'sexiness' that has scaled to modern times but jagger works too
Prince would be good to include since he was less classic masculine and more androgynous
Or how about Freddy Mercury?
Wut
I'm trying to watch usher
Next time can you guys go off the rails when it's not the superbowl
Sports uniforms are def sexy
speaking of sport uniforms I have always wanted to get into sportswear/sportcore. I'm a big fan of Adidas
What the fuck is a sportcore
A style/fashion aesthetic set around the designs popularised by sports and surrounding aspects of sports
full kit wanker
Showing up to the function in football pads
It also vaguely goes into designer/fashion merchandise
What did I miss
Like I'm a big fan of Mighty/Anaheim Ducks merch despite not being a big NHL fan (mainly because I'm Aussie, not a big sport here)
Trolling about genes and a discussion on whether leather jackets are sexy or if Marlon Brando is hot
Marlon Brando is hot confirmed
I can
sorry to necro this but i want a suit that fits like this so bad
totally fine lol, this suit altered the direction of my year so i get it
im going to spend so much money on lemaire
when this shit hits shelves its jove for me
ping me in like 3 years when i can afford lemaire
gonna be my kryptonite
i have man swim shoulders proportions but i think i am juuuust small enough that a slouchy blazer could work
though i could always exaggerate everything else so my shoulders match better
male sexyness is when i cannot see a SINGLE one of their physical characteristics
face neck and then a biiiiiiig box
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wow me and iral are locked in
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first skinny tie charlie day and now this
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We locked