VC4 500mm IDEX

So I've been at this for quite a while now. I've made sure the gantry is square to the back motor mounts with no belts on it. I then added the belts on. I kept Y loose (almost slack), tuned the X and DC belts without issue to get either MZV or ZV recommended with usually 0% vibration. Both T0 and T1 X look good, and are giving what I think are reasonable accelerations with MZV (upper 6k) - first photo is representative). I can also usually get T0 Y to be pretty decent, all things considered. T1 Y has been a significant problem, often with an unknown peak around 90hz. I occasionally get one around 125hz, however cannot find anything loose or vibrating on the toolhead (and I have T1 wire managed the exact same way as T0, which does not have this issue). Furthermore, while I can ultimately get somewhat decent graphs and accelerations at the end of the day, I get significant dynamic skewing during printing. I suspect this is because my Y belts need to be so loose to achieve good Y IS graphs. Tightening them even slightly produces horrible Y graphs (third photo). I've heard that the sweet spot for the Y belts is small, but I've tried going by 1/8 or even smaller adjustments, and still end up with worsening Y IS with practically any tension on the Y belts. I've rechecked that the gantry is square even after all the belt tensioning. I've rebuilt both toolheads. My X and DC belts are identical lengths, and have the same number of teeth sticking out of the rear belt grabber on the toolheads, making them an equal length. I've taken off the Y belts and verified they are the exact same length, and placed in the holders to the exact same tooth. I am out of ideas on what to do. I cannot find any suggestions from searching, other than the usual that the belts need to be looser than most would think. Unfortunately, it seems my belts have to be so loose that the gantry skews and prints crooked walls if I use any acceleration above 5K, which doesn't seem correct.
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archen
archen4w ago
We have pretty much exactly the same problem.. I can also get clean and nice t0/t1 x graphs but t1 y is always noisy. Especially as soon as I add tension to y belts - as you also noticed. It seems like a lot of idex users have the exactly same issues so hopefully a solution will be available sooner or later. My t1 y looks pretty much exacly like yours I also noticed peaks at 125 isch.. Nothing is loose. I can get rid of the 125 peak by loosing the tension a bit but that introduces new problems instead
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D00M-_3w ago
Xulkal
YouTube
RatRig V-Core 4 IDEX Belt Tuning Recap
Recap of the steps I took to tune the belts.
D00M-_
D00M-_3w ago
and i didnt want to wait 2 weeks for his tool so i made this one - https://github.com/Diyshift/3D-Printer/tree/main/GT2%20Belt%20Tension%20Meter
GitHub
3D-Printer/GT2 Belt Tension Meter at main · Diyshift/3D-Printer
Voron Stuff. Contribute to Diyshift/3D-Printer development by creating an account on GitHub.
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D00M-_3w ago
My graphs
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