Would an SSD (vs the SD card) speed up full updates on RPi 4B?
Would the full 8GB of optional RAM speed it up?
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I'm using since quite a while a usb stick ( usb 3.x) with the pi (3B) and it is working quite well and also faster than a SD card.
you will see no difference with more ram or a faster drive vs maybe a few seconds when its booting up or when you are apply patches. A Pi4 1gb with a quality SD card is more than enough power for RatOS. If you feel more comfortable buy 2 or 4gb one but they will not make any difference at this point in time.
I'm using a Pi 4B 2GB and unless it's crashing, it's running effortlessly. Some updates take over an hour though, so I thought of the SSD. I'll just stay on the SD unless it gets corrupted. Thanks
Are you sure you have good WiFi access? Updates never take more than 5-10 mins max for me
I'm over wired ethernet only. Some updates took only 15 minutes, but one took 71 minutes. I get the feeling they're compiling code on the Pi, not just downloading/installing.
I have never had mine take 71 mins and mine is on some really bad wifi in the corner of my garage to the point it takes 30 seconds to upload a 15mb print to the printer. I would suspect it maybe was your internet being slow or your internet provider not having great connectivity to the source of the downloads.
Did you disable your wireless connection, assuming you used it for initial provisioning.
this is highly suspicious, and is most likely related to your issues here: https://discord.com/channels/582187371529764864/1272979483116441630
Sounds a lot like a bad SD card. Which SD card are you using (make and model)?
did you get this from a reputable source?
because that one is missing the right markings
U1, HC1 is terrible
From the most reputable source in the universe............. it's a long river in south america.
Ah i misremembered, it's the circled numbers that are terrible 😂
U1 = 10 MB/s, = V10, guaranteed 10 mb/s write speed. Not great, but should work.
I'll happily get another one if it's worth a shot. I'm starting to think about a SSD drive again.
Sandisk extreme pro is usually a good card
SSD doesn't make much sense, they're only available in USB 2.0 interfaces, so it's rather slow.
Ok.
That's specifically if you want to use M.2
If you get an external SSD through USB 3.0, it's pretty fast.
I can get this
Or spend about double and get an SSD.
that's an excellent card, the title is lying though, It's 30 mb/s guaranteed writespeed.
three times as fast as your current one. But even the one you have now should not take 71 minutes to run updates 😄
I'll order it, but the lazy bastards can't deliver it to my doorstep until later today!
that's not even a thing over here 😂
It's downright embarrassing actually, but you notice I won't refuse it. I do select delayed deliver on other stuff I'm not in a hurry for.
Why is it embarrassing? I wish i could get shit delivered to my doorstep in a couple hours lol 😂
I thought it was 71 minutes but it was 68. I failed to take a capture of which updates were going to be done, but they were likely released just before 8/16/2024 when this capture was taken.
@miklschmidt I got the new card and I'm imaging it. Once done, can I manually transfer key files from my existing SD card to the new one to prevent having to do the configuration and calibration over again? If so, can you tell me the files I need to transfer?
Still need to do the configuration (it's a few clicks, shouldn't take long, you don't need to flash the boards, just select them and skip along to the hardware configuration by using the step navigation to the right). Backup and replace the klipper section in printer.cfg on your old card as well as the variables file, and your old calibration settings are copied.
You're right, the config part should be easy. Thanks.
@miklschmidt How can I tell if the Beacon cal values are still good? Nevermind. I just put my crushing fears aside that I'd grind the nozzle into the print bed, and did a print.
@miklschmidt I posted this in the other thread (Getting occasional "mcu shutdowns...") too because we had the same discussion going both places. I don't have a lot of print hours on this new card, but it's been fine so far with no shutdowns. The one I'm using is actually a 64GB size.
ditto on the USB 3.0 SSD. my card still has RO 2.0 and a ton of print files, just 3/4'ers the way out of the socket.
no fear can kill power without corruption (
This is the USB 3.0 SSD I got from a recommendation from another user from here. Haven't had a chance to test them yet. I don't doubt they will work.
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is what's hanging on the back of mine with a spare 500g SSD I had sinc RO1.2. Come to think of it I need to swap that!
my RO2.1x install is on an SD card while I was first installing! I need to swap media!
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Was RPi able to see it easily.
saw it without issue.
I'm using that Startech adapter and a Samsung 500G SSD on all my printers, including the VC4. I've never had any problems with it. I wouldn't say it speeds up the Pi really, but I haven't used an SD card in a couple of years.