Print bed adhesion because of worn print bed?
Hey,
For a few days now, I can't print on my V-Minion because the print bed adheres poorly or not at all when I print a simple square without a brim. I cleaned the bed with dish soap and isopropanol. Calibrated the Z-offset and did a PID tune. And this happened with several different PLAs that worked fine before.
I don't know what to check next. Is it possible that the print bed is worn out?
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The flow looks good too...
Does the print bed look worn? if it is worn to the point that nothing sticks you should probably see a big difference in the middle compared to the corners of the sheet (where u usually print way less)
Does the first layer not stick or does it only occur on taller prints?
The surface looks good. It is happing when I try to print fine models like this: https://www.printables.com/de/model/143185-gingerbread-house-kit-card
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I reduced the speed of the firstlayer but it is warping instanly up. With all my plas atm. Last year it was working...
Honestly same issue here on a different printer but also with a pei plate. Increasing your hot end temp to help the pla adhere to the surface should do it.
That's what did it for me
When I print, I use for the firstlayer +5°C for Hotend and Bed. Is that bad or good?
It worked for almost 2 years
Still the same problem. I ordered now a new print bed.
Does it have adhesion problems with other filaments for example PETG?
Cause for me pla had trouble sticking but petg bonds strongly no matter what
Don`t have PETG here. Printing now with brim, the prints looks very good and all surface are good. So I wait for the new bed. But overall thanks!
Post a picture of first layer
After starting from scratch, calibrating and cleaning everything, and increasing the hot end temperature. It works again. I noticed that the filament was not sticking as good in the area where I print most of the time (middle of the bed). After googling, other people had the same problem with the Pei bed after many hours of printing. So I am waiting for the new surface.
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You can also try giving it a scrape with some steel wool. That might help. If anything, your first layer looks a little low and underextruded. Any flow changes for layer 1?
I noticed, that the filament brand changed the bed temperature for newer spools.
I tried is with the steel wool, now it is stinking again. The first layer was to low, changed. Printed a cube with 10mm height and measured it with 10.6mm.
The flow for the first layer is in superslicer Flow -> flow ration-> first layer: 100%
In the v-minion profile it under xy first layer compensation -0.1mm.
Ok. Tt turns out, that was a speed problem from superslicer version 2.5.59.3. Switched back to stable 2.4.58.5. There is no underextrusion.
I noticed it, because a 20mm square with 0% infill and 2 perimeters walls only needed 4 minutes instate of 24min...
Oh, we'll that's good news.
Little Update. It was also an adhesion problem. After a lot of trouble with the ordered print bed I can confirm, that was the main problem. Now it is working with the stl from the link!
I think I destroyed the PEI surface with my metal scraper...