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As I've told you before, these are suit jackets and are not meant to be worn without the marching suit pants. The pants are too slim on you and look very off trend. The "not yet unlocked fighter on the character select screen" color combo is not a good one in an outfit like this.
With a black base layer, charcoal matches better. Navy with black sometimes seems weird because the navy almost looks like it’s suppose to be black, but isn’t.
Pants width looks fine to me, since your top is also a slim/regular fit and assuming this outfit is for a smart casual or semi-formal event.
I think the shirt is just a darker shade of navy
Neither look bad but imo the proportions are outdated
You can see the fabric stretching to accommodate his thighs. I shouldn't be able to tell whether or not your pants have elastane in them from afar. The pants are too slim.
You say this but I literally see companies that mix and match suit jackets in advertisements. Heck I even went there and they had suits that were mix and match which meant you wear them with different trousers.
The advertisement exists to get you to buy something, not to serve as an indicator of what is good. I'm sure I can walk into an Express or a Men's Wearhouse and see plenty of mismatched suiting - I can walk out with the knowledge that those brands market to men who have no idea how tailoring or fashion works and that's why they can get away with selling shitty $100 suits and telling kids they'll look good wearing them however they want
There are certain jackets that you can wear as odd jackets, but you need to learn the rules of what does and doesn't work. Advertisements from the clothing companies you're looking at have one goal and one goal only: move product out the door. Their goal is not to inform you to make good stylistic choices.
There's also a difference between a suit jacket meant to be worn with matching pants, and blazers that can be worn alone. The principal difference will be in materials. The stuff you're wearing is either worsted wool, or more likely, an imitation of worsted wool. The trim fit, lapel, shoulder construction, and pockets also all indicate it is meant to be a suit. Blazers are generally made from more casual materials, tend to be more forgiving in fit, and have other slightly more casual detailing.
well then I’m gonna make my own trend because I like how it looks and I get many compliments from people who probably don’t know much about fashion
in that case stop asking the discord run by people who care about fashion for advice and ask those people
Here's an example from one of our WAYWT posters. In theory, the outfit is very similar to yours - odd jacket over a roll neck. But in execution, his works so much better because the jacket is more casual, there's contrast between the colors he's wearing, and the high rise trousers and tuck break up the silhouette in a visually pleasing way
I don’t like that material, I prefer something more formal. I don’t like the color combination either. I like dark colors.
Well everything is subjective. Let me ask you this, who woke up one day decided suits are the standard fashion and we should all follow those rules?
Where did you learn about how fashion works?
the school of hard crocs
"everything is subjective!" says man who dips sushi in ketchup
norms and paradigms exist for a reason - they're grounded in history and culture. i can direct you to books and blogs that answer your question but i suspect you wouldn't bother to read them. if you know what you're doing you can flaunt norms and do your own thing. but if you had that confidence you wouldn't be blowing up the questions thread with the same tired fit checks in bad suits you found after five minutes on ebay every twenty four hours
Hey man if you wanna dress a certain way and it makes you happy feel free
We like fashion as a hobby so we have strong feelings on what looks good and what doesn’t
In the end just do what makes you happy
I read a lot so list the books
For the record I don’t know what you mean by “suits are the standard fashion”
Just look through #waywt-highlights and you’ll see a ton of suits and way more not suits
And you’ll see classic suiting and you’ll see crazy twists on classic suiting
You can always break the rules in fashion, all the fashion houses do it, but it’s a bit of a delicate balance to communicate that you know and understand the history/rules that you’re breaking when you do
Fashion is in constant conversation with itself and if you don’t communicate in that way, you won’t look fashionable to the people who speak the language
is the first pic u ripping ur vape 😭😭😭😭
If you can’t explain the rules you are breaking, then you don’t understand the rules.
This is why Reddit and discord get the reputation they have
A good book to learn about the “rules” and why we say what we do about your fits is dressing the man by alan flusser
Reddit and discord have different reputations.
Because we don’t like your outfit lmao?
Did you just want people to tell you these looks are super cool
You can’t generalize everything because you think you know something
These looks are super cool
Are you looking for validation or advice?
There
Oh no the hobby discord has opinions about the hobby it’s about
You can post on WAYWT if you’re looking just to share
nobody forced you to come here and post pics
These both have tons more texture and variance and interest in the items. The jackets are much softer and louche. The layer under the jacket contrasts both in fabric and in shade. The much brighter denim in the second fit and grounded black loafers really pull it all together.
The items on paper may be kind of similar but the execution is totally different
why post for opinions just so then you telling everyone you like what u wear anyway?
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I wrote a piece about where these things come from but it's not ready for prime time yet
The short version is, lots of historical context
You can do whatever the fuck you want. Nobody will arrest you. But if you skip the entire context surrounding these garments and just do your own thing you need a good eye and a lot of time, effort, and usually money to experiment. You'll get it wrong most times. That's the old bit about knowing the rules before you break them
I understand you are frustrated because you keep coming here and keep getting the same advice that you don't like. But other people are frustrated because you keep asking for advice and then ignoring it
So your two choices are basically, either take the advice or don't.
"You'll get it wrong most times." is a great answer for breaking any enthusiast orthodoxy.
With no offense intended, you're not one of those geniuses who gets to break the context successfully on his first try. There are geniuses who pick up photography or racing cars or composing symphonies without ever knowing the rules and have it work out great, but they are so rare that their existence is celebrated for good reason. Everyone else has to work really hard and fail a lot.
But also, people who themselves don't have any expertise praising you doesn't mean much. My mom would be scared shitless passengering on a racetrack with me and think I'm super fast, whereas an instructor would tell me I'm doing kinda meh and have a thousand things to improve. Do you want style advice from my mom (or your mom), or from people who put a lot of thought into it? Your choice.
damn this thread is crazy
@Ty Crisos i think the outfit is fine if youre happy with exactly what you want to look like. its passable for most things.
it's just not exactly breaking any new ground nor is it traditional. it's very normal! lots of guys wear what you wear and they're totally fine.
but if you want something that feels more intentional, something that upholds or references fashion, then this doesnt' really hit that mark.
the points people have made about mixing formalities with textures is a good "rule", but as they have noted, it leads to a lot of the ways we think about clothing
an overly formal, shiny, superfine jacket doesn't make sense as a jacket on its own narratively
something with more texture makes sense to be worn with jeans
again, people may not question it! and im sure itll be acceptable to the bar, dinner, etc.
but it doesn't exactly achieve the SLP-adjacent look of black jacket with slim black jeans. It just looks like a guy who put a suit jacket on a tee shirt
He should take advice from my mom, she’s a style god
I owe everyone here an apology for my attitude earlier
I appreciate that