First Layer problem, always squished on bottom left/ left side

Ok guys, I need your help! I can't use the printer because the first layer doesn't come out well and doesn't stick to the bed in any way. i'll post you my bed mesh and the result i can't figure out what is going on...what i've done wrong? I printed directly on aluminum plate to see if the adhesive magnetic bed was a fact but...same problem like on the magnetic bed. is my bed plate? my frame? i don't know. As you can the the fisrt layer don't stick from the middle plate to the upper right plate and is very squish on the left side of the plate and the bottom/left part of the bed. Please give me a hand i'm very frustrated. i use euclid probe wich is very accurate 0.003 mm result on repetibility test. I'm very sad
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27 Replies
national-gold
national-goldOP•2y ago
I did a test, I purposely moved one arm of the left y gantry down. the bad mesh gone very warped but the printing result was the same. i can't understand if is a mechanical building error or a firmware error. the printer seems to follow the bed shape but it have the same problem, is too sticky on the botto/left - left side of the bed
Yucca
Yucca•2y ago
Hi, I have same problem, posted a few days back. no answer, no solution...
national-gold
national-goldOP•2y ago
i even used a 4mm thick glass bed but the problem persist. i think the problem is on the frame
beejayf
beejayf•2y ago
Should the probe not take care of this? I also have some areas with critical first layer and try to work out why this is not correctly compensated.
BulMaster
BulMaster•2y ago
I will chime in on having the same problem
BulMaster
BulMaster•2y ago
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BulMaster•2y ago
Green perfect, red too close to bed and overextended
ptegler
ptegler•2y ago
mesh (bed temp) cold? hot? version of RatOS? mesh should be named ratos (not default)
national-gold
national-goldOP•2y ago
hot bed 70 and 100 degree same result, i'll try with cold bed. also i'll try to reinstal klipper with ratos 2.0 because i use manta and cb1
stormy-gold
stormy-gold•2y ago
Talking from personal experience.. to fix it I had to let the bed's temp stabilize before starting to print. When heater reaches the setpoint the print surface is still not hot enough. That means it keeps deforming since temp is still changing. So between the mesh and print start the bed warps so slightly to cause these issues. I set max heater power to 75 to heat it slower and waiting about 2 minutes after it reaches the setpoint before meshing and starting the print. You can know it stabilized when your output power goes down and stays at same mean level If it's enclosed the frame deformation also comes into play and makes that effect even worse So heatsoak is needed
someaction
someaction•2y ago
have the same problem. still no sulotion for this. its making me crazy
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BulMaster
BulMaster•2y ago
Bed 110, heatsoeaked for close to 2h, ratos 2.0, mesh name is ratos.
SwissStar_BL_2
SwissStar_BL_2•2y ago
Had the same problems with my first layer. Changed to the double rail mod from elco and since then no more problems.
BulMaster
BulMaster•2y ago
Care to link? I think I know the one you refer, the one with two linear rails and some cubes in betweeen?
SwissStar_BL_2
SwissStar_BL_2•2y ago
Thats the one, yes
SwissStar_BL_2
SwissStar_BL_2•2y ago
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BulMaster
BulMaster•2y ago
I just bought a CF Tube a week ago. Will give it a go before spending more cash. Will need to look on Ali for those cubes
someaction
someaction•2y ago
care to share anlink for the cf one? ive bee thinking of this aswell
someaction
someaction•2y ago
can i pm you?
BulMaster
BulMaster•2y ago
I am i bed ^^ sure txt me and I will get back to you tomorrow? 🙂
national-gold
national-goldOP•2y ago
i tested cold bed/ 70/110 and i get always the same problem
rwoculus
rwoculus•2y ago
Any fixes for this i have the exact same issue i already have the dual gantry mod.
BulMaster
BulMaster•2y ago
If reducing flow and lowering z doesn’t help, I would suggest making sure the z compensation is working Put a little mark on the top of the front a rods Start a larger print and watch to see if the rods are turning. They shouldn’t turn much, just micro movements But can be still seen
rwoculus
rwoculus•2y ago
ok i don't see any movement on a 10x10 print I had this issue on both ratos 1.0 as now 2.0 all i changed from stock config is z-offset 8.4
BulMaster
BulMaster•2y ago
10x10? You mean mm? Cause that’s too small. Do corner squares for example. Can you post your printer.cfg
rwoculus
rwoculus•2y ago
10x10cm
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