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•Created by johnnyboy99 on 11/13/2023 in #questions-and-advice
Is it possible to alter a suit jacket to fit more like a shirt, in the shoulders?
And if that is the case then that's good information too. I don't mean this in any kind of demeaning way or weird way. There's definitely a handful of things where I think a lot of guys/people just don't have sensory issues with said thing, and I forced myself to become comfortable with it through practice (like playing sports in the mud. I hate it with a passion, but most men think it's god's gift on earth to play football in the mud, so.. you do it). If that's the case, I mean, that's life. Maybe everyone else just doesn't mind these little things.
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•Created by johnnyboy99 on 11/13/2023 in #questions-and-advice
Is it possible to alter a suit jacket to fit more like a shirt, in the shoulders?
Well, yes, but that introduces it's own host of issues. I feel like a proper jacket when unbuttoned should still remain fairly orderly. It's not like I have a big gut - I don't. I'm in shape. And yet I always find my jackets flair open when i sit like as if wind were blowing them open. And then the tail catches or the back creases... I don't know, man.
Maybe I'm just way too sensitive, in all sincerity. I am definitely in the.. you know, the highly highly masking functional end of the spectrum. Not enough symptoms to meet a diagnosis but.. lets not kid ourselves... hahahah.
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•Created by johnnyboy99 on 11/13/2023 in #questions-and-advice
Is it possible to alter a suit jacket to fit more like a shirt, in the shoulders?
Oh I'm almost certain it's fit issues, hahah. But I've gone to multiple tailors to have them do a cheap jacket for me, and tried a variety of sizes. I've tried/own a 36, which I could pull off when I was younger and had less bodymass, but 100% does not fit anymore. I wear a 38S today, and 40S I am 95% certain is too big. So I mean... what else can you do?
My guess was/is - I'm going to have to commission bespoke to find something satisfactory.
Dance-quality fitting would be the cream of the crop, but I would settle for general life flexibility. E.g. the ability to take photos and raise my arms around my friends backs and not see my jacket pop. Or be able to sit comfortably at work in my jacket all day (with arms raised at my desk as I type), with no pop, or on the couch or wherever. I would 100% settle for a suit jacket being as flexible as, say, a ski jacket.
And thank you very much, btw, for your input and help.
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•Created by johnnyboy99 on 11/13/2023 in #questions-and-advice
Is it possible to alter a suit jacket to fit more like a shirt, in the shoulders?
But suffice to say, "yes" to all of the above. It's small inconsistencies. Small but noticeable imperfections that when added up just drive me crazy. So I find myself just using suit jackets as kinda decorative wear. I'll put it on for all the mixing and hubbub but - lets say I wore it to work. I'm only wearing it for presentations, you know? If I have any actual work that needs done where I need to sit down, put on headphones and focus on my thing, that jacket is coming off. And I'm not a salesman, so you can do the math on how (not) often I'm presenting, and as such how little I get to wear my jackets.
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•Created by johnnyboy99 on 11/13/2023 in #questions-and-advice
Is it possible to alter a suit jacket to fit more like a shirt, in the shoulders?
A little bit of everything. I've owned probably 5-10 suits ranging from chinese polyester to clearance-priced 100% wool brooks brothers.
They each have their inconsistencies, even after tailoring. Maybe my shoulder pockets feel too big, and I feel this crunch of fabric underneath the armpit. Maybe the lapel is too tight and it pops. Maybe the label is too big and it pops. Maybe the jacket is too long (I am 5'7 and mostly legs so I'm... pretty small in the torso. Albeit i have average muscle and shoulders at 38" and I can bench a plate.).
Driving is something I certainly have never been able to do. Always always have to take the jacket off to drive. The shoulder is too tight despite wearing a suit that was bought up and then tapered in, the tail wrinkles, the label creases right where the seatbelt wants to be...
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•Created by johnnyboy99 on 11/13/2023 in #questions-and-advice
Is it possible to alter a suit jacket to fit more like a shirt, in the shoulders?
And yeah to be clear I'm not, like, going to go on AGT or anything like that. I just like looking sharp when it's appropriate and I love a good looking suit. I would dress that fly every day if I could afford to and was wearing suits that fit the way I want them to. I mean its not like every suit needs to be dance-ready, even just being able to go to work and sit down at a desk to work and not have to always take off the jacket would be great. In my experience jackets have been nothing more than photowear for me. Show up somewhere, take it off, put it on to stand for photos, take it back off. Blegh. Why even own one.
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•Created by johnnyboy99 on 11/13/2023 in #questions-and-advice
Is it possible to alter a suit jacket to fit more like a shirt, in the shoulders?
Is he a tailor or just someone with the same needs? Only curious, will probably hit him up
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•Created by johnnyboy99 on 11/13/2023 in #questions-and-advice
Is it possible to alter a suit jacket to fit more like a shirt, in the shoulders?
hahahahah
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•Created by johnnyboy99 on 11/13/2023 in #questions-and-advice
Is it possible to alter a suit jacket to fit more like a shirt, in the shoulders?
Hahahahah I'm just trying to gauge flexibility. But for what it's worth it's common in partner dancing to swing your partner out a bit with your arms raised.
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•Created by johnnyboy99 on 11/13/2023 in #questions-and-advice
Is it possible to alter a suit jacket to fit more like a shirt, in the shoulders?
Do you think you could raise your arms to shoulder level? As if to hold your palm out flat and do a roman salute.
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•Created by johnnyboy99 on 11/13/2023 in #questions-and-advice
Is it possible to alter a suit jacket to fit more like a shirt, in the shoulders?
I do live in a big city. Unfortunately I don't belong to a dedicated dance company but maybe they will help out strangers 🙂 dancing is just a hobby, like one would go play pick up basketball after work.
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•Created by johnnyboy99 on 11/13/2023 in #questions-and-advice
Is it possible to alter a suit jacket to fit more like a shirt, in the shoulders?
Out of curiosity what degree of freedom would you say you have in your (presumed) bespoke jackets? Not every jacket needs to be a performance jacket - but I am just simply not satisfied with the jackets I have tried OTR at any price point that I think are your generic middle class suiters (brooks brothers, peter millar, etc).
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•Created by johnnyboy99 on 11/13/2023 in #questions-and-advice
Is it possible to alter a suit jacket to fit more like a shirt, in the shoulders?
Yes, I want jackets that fit like his does. I do have a niche "need" for this kind of cut. I mean, I live in a first world country, it's a luxury not a need, but you get the point.
And, actually, hahah, it's for the same reason. I like to dance (a lot).
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•Created by johnnyboy99 on 11/13/2023 in #questions-and-advice
Is it possible to alter a suit jacket to fit more like a shirt, in the shoulders?
I'm not sure what you mean by restricting movement and "doesn't fit". It's not that it restricts movement so much as the jacket moves when it shouldn't.
I have never in my life found an off the rack jacket at any store - suit supply, nordstroms, nordstroms rack, dillards - nowhere have I ever found a jacket that ever had a small enough arm hole for me. I have tried on at least a hundred+ jackets in my life. it's not like I have tiny noodle arms. I'm not buff but I'm pretty average, I played sports all my life.
Anyways, so what I find is that because the arm/shoulder hole is so big, I raise my arm and by the time I've lifted it at more than a handshake's level, because the arm hole is so big there is no more fabric left to accommodate my arm being raised, and the torso of the jacket, particularly on that arm-side, begins to lift.
This isn't - in my opinion - how proper clothes should fit. I have off the rack t-shirts that are 100% cotton, no spandex necessary, that are cut well enough to my arm that I have 100% flexibility in my arm and the torso won't move but maybe half an inch. That kind of freedom is what I'm looking for in a suit jacket and I haven't found a single jacket or brand in any size or store that comes even remotely close. It feels like all suit jackets are cut poorly for arm movement.
Edit - and something I feel very strongly about when deciding if a shirt or what-have-you is cut properly for my body shape - I personally feel that I should be able to raise my arm like I'm asking a question, and the fabric of the torso cut under the arm should not raise above my waistline so as to expose an undershirt. Anything more than an inch or two of lift is unacceptable
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