How should I go about generating a server world?

I'm going to run a server on a local pc. My current plan is to pregenerate a big part of the world with chunky, but I don't really know how to go about generating LODs and sending the already generated db to my friends
58 Replies
Yeshi
Yeshi•5mo ago
generate the world in singleplayer and leave distant generation enabled when enough LODs have been generated you can share the sqlite containing the LOD data /lodstored
YAGPDB.xyz
YAGPDB.xyz•5mo ago
Single Player: - Overworld: .minecraft/saves/WORLD_NAME/data/DistantHorizons.sqlite - Nether: .minecraft/saves/WORLD_NAME/DIM-1/data/DistantHorizons.sqlite - End: .minecraft/saves/WORLD_NAME/DIM1/data/DistantHorizons.sqlite - Custom Dimensions: .minecraft/saves/WORLD_NAME/DIMENSION_FOLDER/data/DistantHorizons.sqlite Multiplayer: - .minecraft/Distant_Horizons_server_data/SERVER_NAME/
Yeshi
Yeshi•5mo ago
note that you shouldn't use chunky if you just want LODs, it's slower than letting DH generate them on its own
l_aggy
l_aggy•5mo ago
is DH running on the server asw?
Yeshi
Yeshi•5mo ago
DH can't run on servers officially but there's an unofficial serverside fork that adds a lot of stuff from singleplayer #Server side fork
l_aggy
l_aggy•5mo ago
ig this works i forgot peoples pc can be faster than the server at loading chunks xd i've seen threads saying it really pushes the server to 100% tho so be weary (due to distant gen)
Gazda
Gazda•5mo ago
the server has a pretty mid cpu and there will be probably around 5 players so the real chunk generation might slow down i find that using chunky makes the gameplay a lot better
Yeshi
Yeshi•5mo ago
using chunky is a good idea then
Gazda
Gazda•5mo ago
does dh's distant generation only generate the lods?
l_aggy
l_aggy•5mo ago
pretty sure or else itll be slow like chunky also distant gen on client doesnt work in multiplayer
Yeshi
Yeshi•5mo ago
distant gen only generates LODs yeah you could remove DH, generate the world with chunky, enable DH, let it generate LODs, copy the world data to the server
l_aggy
l_aggy•5mo ago
dont need to remove but just disable distant gen
Yeshi
Yeshi•5mo ago
DH will try to generate LODs every time a chunk is generated which can cause chunky to bug out from what i've heard
Gazda
Gazda•5mo ago
I'll do exactly that, thanks a lot 🙂
Yeshi
Yeshi•5mo ago
np
l_aggy
l_aggy•5mo ago
oh ive seen pple just disable distant gen n stuff and it work fine ig to be safe using that method is fine
MasterBeef
MasterBeef•5mo ago
So I still don't fully understand. I am in the same situation in which I would like to generate the LODs for the server ahead of time out to a certain distance, so players joining don't need to explore the chunks themselves to see the LODs. Originally I had wanted to use Chunky, since it worked in my singleplayer worlds to generate the chunks with it while DH was off, then turning DH on showed the LODs of the generated chunks, but you're saying it won't work that way on the server's side? I attempted to generate out to a short-ish distance with Chunky and then join the server, but I could not see any new LODs And also when I first joined the server, a few LODs had already been generated, but they were with the wrong world or something? the chunks were obviously wrong and not connected to the way the world was generating properly. Also having joined the server, LODs wouldn't load automatically and only loaded for chunks I had already loaded, but as I understand that's normal for DH right?
Rick
Rick•5mo ago
What I’ve been doing (and what was suggested above) is: * find a seed you want to play on * setup DH and Chunky on that seed in a single player creative world * setup fabric server with Chunky and DH * load into single player world * Turn DH up to a high amount (I did 4096) * Enable “I paid for the whole CPU” or “Aggressive” on DH * Start chunky for 5k-10k radius or 15k if overnight. * Wait for chunky to finish * Copy entire world folder and paste it into your fabric server folder renaming it to: “world” * join fabric server and set DH to high distance again * wait for DH to finish loading (should be a few mins) and then you’re good to go :Okayge: You can see my results from 5k chunky radius and DH in #screenshots Tonight I’m running 30k radius on chunky although that shows 70hrs ETA lol so I’ll probably pause it or cancel it whenever I get on to play tomorrow
MasterBeef
MasterBeef•5mo ago
Thanks for the help! Is the region folder in the world's files necessary for dh, or do I just need the sqlite file? because the region folder takes up even more space than the sqlite, and as of now it's taking a significantly long time to transfer I should also probably specify, I am running my server off of an Oracle vm, so everything on the server needs to be transferred from my computer to the server for every file in the region folder it takes about an average of 7 seconds to transfer, and the folder has nearly 2,000 files in it so it would take a couple hours at minimum to transfer just that folder if it is necessary, then i'll just bite the bullet, but I thought I'd check just in case
Pandemic
Pandemic•5mo ago
guys why arent we using the server fork of DH to gen? i thought that was the point of it no? i think ive confirmed this issue, chunky with DH removed runs perfect, both together i got a gpu crash it might be other things tho. DH doesnt like some worldgen mods already
l_aggy
l_aggy•5mo ago
some weak servers cant handle the load idk and the server one only goes up to 1.20.4
Rick
Rick•5mo ago
I believe those are the chunk files from chunky but I could be wrong. I kept them because I like to play with pre-loaded chunks but with DH they might be unnecessary? Not sure. If you do try it lmk It did not work for me, so I tried what was said here or well, it just didnt load as many chunks as something like chunky can do like I couldnt put more than 4096 in DH where as with chunky i can load in 10k+
thermo
thermo•5mo ago
uh chunky = blocks 10k = 10k blocks dh = chunks 4096 = 4096 chunks what cpu does your server have?
Rick
Rick•5mo ago
Not sure where you got that from but it is chunks as you can see from their mod page:
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Rick
Rick•5mo ago
I run it on my own PC because it's just a small server for me and my friends :Okayge: My specs: Ryzen 5800x 32GB ram total (I run the server with 16GB) RTX 2080Super
thermo
thermo•5mo ago
chunky works in blocks
Rick
Rick•5mo ago
Actually i see where you might have gotten that from, where it says Block radius
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thermo
thermo•5mo ago
so if you do /chunky set 5000 5000 yeah
Rick
Rick•5mo ago
it's still generating chunks though just in a block radius
thermo
thermo•5mo ago
yeah thats what im on about so if you choose 4096 in DH thats equivalent to setting chunky at 65,536 anyways i'd recommend setting a reasonable worldborder like 20k #/worldborder set 20000 using chunky to pregen it #/chunky worldborder #/chunky start wait for it to finish and add the serverside fork of DH wait i did the formatting wrong thats ugly
Rick
Rick•5mo ago
I mean 10k is already taking 7ish hrs
thermo
thermo•5mo ago
are you using fabric?
Rick
Rick•5mo ago
yea
thermo
thermo•5mo ago
did you add c2me?
Rick
Rick•5mo ago
yes should I remove it?
thermo
thermo•5mo ago
No remove DH while chunky and c2me are doing its thing oh thats 17cps thats quite bad your cpu should atleast be reaching 40s do you have any world gen mods?
Rick
Rick•5mo ago
Actually I'm pretty sure i normally get about 34ish? I might be off on the time and yes I have tectonic + terralith and a lot of other mods for villages, mobs, structures, etc
thermo
thermo•5mo ago
peculiar, i have an i5-12500 on my server (similar performance) and it gets around 40-50 with a crap ton of world gen mods
Miki_P98
Miki_P98•5mo ago
Try installing mods: - Noisium - Faster Random And mayby some others to free up the CPU, e.g. Lithium
Pandemic
Pandemic•5mo ago
do you guys have any suggestions for mods that help with modded world generation? I find the second I add a world gen mod and a structure mod, my chunk load time triples
l_aggy
l_aggy•5mo ago
Noisium is great for ur question Pandemic
thermo
thermo•5mo ago
Are you using Chunky to generate the world?
Pandemic
Pandemic•5mo ago
yes I use it already, it's still really slow
Miki_P98
Miki_P98•5mo ago
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l_aggy
l_aggy•5mo ago
whats ur specs
Pandemic
Pandemic•5mo ago
like, I can just fly around and DH will load essentially everything almost immediately when I'm on straight vanilla. It's fantastic. The second I add in a mod, both my normal chunk generation and DH slow to crawl. Ryzen 9 5900x 128GB DDR4 (XMP enabled) Nvidia RTX 4070ti Game & OS are on a PCIe4.0 M.2
l_aggy
l_aggy•5mo ago
like any mod?
Pandemic
Pandemic•5mo ago
i use terralith, lithosphere, and CTOV 1.20.1
l_aggy
l_aggy•5mo ago
idk how much slower its meant to be generating LoDs with world gen mods so i cant rlly help yo maybe manually change the no. of threads dh uses for generating lods or that sodium setting for generating chunks
Pandemic
Pandemic•5mo ago
theres a sodium setting for that?
l_aggy
l_aggy•5mo ago
ye unless its from sodium extras?
Davded
Davded•5mo ago
Thank you for the guide in here đź‘Ť
Pandemic
Pandemic•5mo ago
i wanna pop in and say that i made it a bit less slow by creating a custom structure spawn list that made structures less common and also made MC have to reference less tables for chunk gen 🤙
Alice Glass
Alice Glass•4mo ago
hi would this work for single player
Rick
Rick•4mo ago
yep :Okayge: Just skip the last 3 steps basically and anything to do with a server
Alice Glass
Alice Glass•4mo ago
probably a stupid question but what does the enable distant generation even do because i just disabled it my fps went like 2x higher and i dont see any difference
Miki_P98
Miki_P98•4mo ago
It enables DH to generate chunks you have not visited. On single that means you can generate infinite RD while standinf still. On servers that means that you can generate lods up to servers max RD, no matter your real RD
Rick
Rick•4mo ago
As Miki said ^ after you generate as many LODs as you’re happy with, you can disable it to increase your performance
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