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mfadā€¢16mo ago
Carney

No love for slim fits?

Seems like most people really dislike slimmer fitting clothing these days. Personally I think slimmer cut clothes most times just have a cleaner and more refined look, at least on myself. Definitely a lot of people out there who make the loose/boxy/baggy look work. Maybe something to do with my age (late 30s) or my size - I'm a relatively short guy (28-29 inch inseam) and in decent shape. Boxy and loose just looks sloppy and unflattering on me. I'm happy with my current look and don't plan on changing it anytime soon, but just curious to see if there are any others here who prefer slimmer cuts for their clothes? Did I miss the style train and get left behind?
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yurt
yurtā€¢16mo ago
"Maybe it has something to do with my age" -yes "looks sloppy and unflattering on me" -probably not "Did I miss the style train and get left behind" -yes
artvandelayimporting
artvandelayimportingā€¢16mo ago
there's a huge middle ground between slim fit and loose fit and that's where many people are living these days
yurt
yurtā€¢16mo ago
Someone post that blackbird spyplane article Or even the image
awburkey
awburkeyā€¢16mo ago
If you don't like them you don't have to wear them
aud
audā€¢16mo ago
Slim fits can still look good, and is a nice silhouette option to have as well, but unless you're pretty advanced in your style journey and considerate of it not being the default cut anymore you're almost certainly not being considered fashionable in it right now
eggtart!
eggtart!ā€¢16mo ago
doesn't really matter idk how my friends feel about stuff like wide fit or slim fit but i think they don't care at all it's like not a consideration that exists to them bc they don't engage with fashion that closely which is 100% fine and dandy
yurt
yurtā€¢16mo ago
I mean people who care about fashion will care Inevitably
eggtart!
eggtart!ā€¢16mo ago
ye but for OP then i don't think they should worry about it much hopefully that didn't come off dismissive
Piejamas
Piejamasā€¢16mo ago
There are lots of people (myself included, sometimes) still wearing slim fits. You won't look bad, you'll just look like a guy in his thirties, which is fine because that's what you are. At a certain age, following trends becomes much more optional
aud
audā€¢16mo ago
My millennial friends who aren't into fashion will not stop talking to me about how they will never let skinny jeans go from their cold dead hands, so on my end people not into fashion also seem to be caring a lot šŸ„²
yurt
yurtā€¢16mo ago
Oh yeah forgot about this I don't interact with millennials often enough lol
eggtart!
eggtart!ā€¢16mo ago
my millennial brother dresses like a slim fit without trying to šŸ˜­
yurt
yurtā€¢16mo ago
Fashion reactionaries are crazy to me
artvandelayimporting
artvandelayimportingā€¢16mo ago
will say that if you are willing to dip into straight fit it's just way way more comfortable go to the mall and try on a pair of 501s it'll look like clown pants at first but the difference in comfort is significant
jfarrell468
jfarrell468ā€¢16mo ago
Yeah, I was skeptical, but I'm liking straight legs, NGL.
awburkey
awburkeyā€¢16mo ago
Yeah this has been a whole tiktok/generational spat
artvandelayimporting
artvandelayimportingā€¢16mo ago
OR don't because at the end of the day wear whatever you want
letsgosnakes
letsgosnakesā€¢16mo ago
Proxy for not wanting to admit they are getting old
jfarrell468
jfarrell468ā€¢16mo ago
Also plentiful and cheap secondhand because they are "unfashionable"
awburkey
awburkeyā€¢16mo ago
Where's the Derek Guy meme about how every 30yo man looks in slim raws
Piejamas
Piejamasā€¢16mo ago
I tried it for a while but I hated the feeling of having loose fabric hanging around my ankles, especially when walking
yurt
yurtā€¢16mo ago
Me and my gang of JNCO wearing zoomers will pry their skinny jeans from their cold dead hands after executing them in the public square
letsgosnakes
letsgosnakesā€¢16mo ago
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artvandelayimporting
artvandelayimportingā€¢16mo ago
Hereā€™s me in slim and me in straight
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aud
audā€¢16mo ago
The generational wars start now
jfarrell468
jfarrell468ā€¢16mo ago
I'm in this picture and I don't like it šŸ˜€
awburkey
awburkeyā€¢16mo ago
straight fit looks so clean Much better lines I'd also bet money that those are a "slim-straight" fit
artvandelayimporting
artvandelayimportingā€¢16mo ago
yeah it took a lot of brain conditioning to feel like I wasn't wearing absurdly wide pants but now my range of motion is so much better
yurt
yurtā€¢16mo ago
The "straight" pants still read slim to me lol
jfarrell468
jfarrell468ā€¢16mo ago
Or massive thighs
artvandelayimporting
artvandelayimportingā€¢16mo ago
yeah technically these are my 505 'regular' fits
awburkey
awburkeyā€¢16mo ago
That's the part that's so dumb about the whole "dae like slim fit anymore?"
artvandelayimporting
artvandelayimportingā€¢16mo ago
but again, they exist in the middle ground I was talking about between slim and loose
awburkey
awburkeyā€¢16mo ago
like 3Sixteen has sold a slim-straight cut since 2012 I love my orange tab 505s
ttocs
ttocsā€¢16mo ago
I still wear alot of slim fits because I like my old jeans. I dont see anything wrong with that but I'll be buying wider in the future. Im pretty at peace with this
awburkey
awburkeyā€¢16mo ago
wearing them rn
plyisytwy
plyisytwyā€¢16mo ago
I do see the slim fitting 2000ā€™s scene/mods/indie rock aesthetics coming back, also some great layering opportunities doing an oversized piece on top of a slim base.
artvandelayimporting
artvandelayimportingā€¢16mo ago
mostly I love not having to turn my pants inside out to get them off my body
yurt
yurtā€¢16mo ago
Where? Am curious
awburkey
awburkeyā€¢16mo ago
shades of APC PNS
plyisytwy
plyisytwyā€¢16mo ago
Could rap is certainly scene inspired
Piejamas
Piejamasā€¢16mo ago
I see a lot of this walking around London
awburkey
awburkeyā€¢16mo ago
I also saw it at a punk rock show where the average age was 35 but that doesn't mean the look is back on trend
rej
rejā€¢16mo ago
wider fit's just much cozier, and balances out better to the eye (in my opinion)
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rej
rejā€¢16mo ago
and i can put shit in my pockets
yurt
yurtā€¢16mo ago
tbf depending on the age demographic London is a relatively fashion forward city
AthleisureHandsewn
AthleisureHandsewnā€¢16mo ago
Back in 2014 or so I got a pair of Tellasonā€™s straight fit denim and was horrified by how baggy they felt and tucked them away in storage. Recently tried them on again and they fitā€¦ like regular pants. Crazy how your own perception of fit evolves over time.
yurt
yurtā€¢16mo ago
If your pants look "too big," wear even bigger pants
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artvandelayimporting
artvandelayimportingā€¢16mo ago
agree
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awburkey
awburkeyā€¢16mo ago
I just never buy the "I see $look all the time so it must be popular!" It's the most selection bias ever
yurt
yurtā€¢16mo ago
Yeah fair enough Though I gotta say depending on the person I'd believe it
rej
rejā€¢16mo ago
can't do this in slim fit
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yurt
yurtā€¢16mo ago
Like if you're 20something and gay you're probably tapped in more than average to "watching people on the street"
awburkey
awburkeyā€¢16mo ago
I do think a big shift is having appropriately sized/cut clothing to all pair together. Like the J Crew OCBDs in slim fit size S that I used to wear are just never going to look good with stuff that's not similarly part of that trend
rej
rejā€¢16mo ago
not sizing down to size 26 APC's for the perfect fit
awburkey
awburkeyā€¢16mo ago
In contrast to my newer to me shirts and such which have more room to breathe
plyisytwy
plyisytwyā€¢16mo ago
Some varied examples from recent collections
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letsgosnakes
letsgosnakesā€¢16mo ago
Yup, I see this a lot when I'm near NYU
Piejamas
Piejamasā€¢16mo ago
I think seeing it around is more important in this context. I don't think anyone rocking slim fit is concerned about being on the cutting edge of trends, it's more a question of "what can I get away with without looking ridiculous?", and seeing it in public relatively often is a good sign that it's ok
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorriganā€¢16mo ago
I have pants in lots of cuts because different cuts work better with different things I have slim shirts and oversized shirts
yurt
yurtā€¢16mo ago
Also think my generation's version of the fashion reaction will be interesting to see
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorriganā€¢16mo ago
I think itā€™s just that wearing a whole bunch of slim fit in a mid or bad fit looks dated in a specific way Itā€™s not that all slim clothing is bad
yurt
yurtā€¢16mo ago
Def will involve some like "slim fit is fatphobic" which I'm not 100% convinced is false This is probably much closer to the median fashionable gen z person though
awburkey
awburkeyā€¢16mo ago
YSL famously not problematic at all /s I should prolly say Hedi instead of YSL
yurt
yurtā€¢16mo ago
I do think the "death of trends" has been greatly exaggerated
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorriganā€¢16mo ago
Iā€™m 29 years old hawyee
yurt
yurtā€¢16mo ago
But it's at least partially true Yeah but I and my friends also pretty much dress like this/shop with this attitude
letsgosnakes
letsgosnakesā€¢16mo ago
Yeah I think context matters. The minimalist slim fit tech bro uniform looks dated, but slim fit can work fine in other contexts Kinda like New Balance Dad sneakers. How they are perceived depends on the rest of the fit
yurt
yurtā€¢16mo ago
I think the most likely thing is that 2010s slim will shift into the "acceptable decades to LARP as" Like 70s, 90s, and 00s currently are
metcarfre
metcarfreā€¢16mo ago
Something to note I think is that it still can be challenging to find wider cut stuff at mass-market brands; so I donā€™t think it has full penetration yet
letsgosnakes
letsgosnakesā€¢16mo ago
I think the new gen will put their own spin on it though. Because there will still be people dressing that way unironically that they want to separate themselves from.
metcarfre
metcarfreā€¢16mo ago
Like I was at the mall literally looking for pants this weekend and most places (Uniqlo, Muji, gap, BR etc) mostly stock slim fit chinos Yeah jcrew has the giant chinos but theyā€™re the exception
yurt
yurtā€¢16mo ago
My last Uniqlo trip I found the opposite
metcarfre
metcarfreā€¢16mo ago
But I prefer wide cuts because dear god I canā€™t fit this tank ass into anything else
yurt
yurtā€¢16mo ago
Actually not 100% true Uniqlo in Montreal had wide only
metcarfre
metcarfreā€¢16mo ago
Might be location specific ? Wouldnā€™t be the first time Canada was behind the times
yurt
yurtā€¢16mo ago
Uniqlo in Boston had slim only
metcarfre
metcarfreā€¢16mo ago
Lol MTL is the Europe of Canada
letsgosnakes
letsgosnakesā€¢16mo ago
Most big chains will try to match store inventory to shopping preferences in that location. So if slim fit sells better in that location that's what they'll keep stocking
metcarfre
metcarfreā€¢16mo ago
I mean yeah
cathode ray jepsen
cathode ray jepsenā€¢16mo ago
Cries in PNW
yurt
yurtā€¢16mo ago
Except shops in Europe were actually more slim centric Muji in Paris had slim only
metcarfre
metcarfreā€¢16mo ago
One way or another, wide cuts donā€™t have as much penetration yet in some areas
yurt
yurtā€¢16mo ago
Muji in Boston had wide only
metcarfre
metcarfreā€¢16mo ago
Much to my chagrin
rej
rejā€¢16mo ago
yea like the jcrew's near me have one small rack with the giant chinos just kind of hidden in store, and everything else is slim or "straight"
metcarfre
metcarfreā€¢16mo ago
It is driving me crazy trying to find pants that fit me. Refuse to buy online because Iā€™ve had so many issues I donā€™t think j crew needs to label things as straight, itā€™s just assumed there. xd
rej
rejā€¢16mo ago
lmao i put it in quotes cause their 770's are still slim
ler
lerā€¢16mo ago
I'm 35 with a short inseam (like 27?) and Ive embraced wider fits. I mean, you don't have to be on either extreme, im wearing big ass balloon pants today but I generally fall more straight fit than this. I think the biggest thing with being this age and wider fits is like, sloppy high school flashbacks But the baggier shit I wear now is not the same as the baggy shit I wore then, it's nicer cut, better material, not dragging under my giant ass skate shoes, not sagged past my ass, etc You can embrace wider trends without looking like you're going to a Limp Bizkit show (but honestly, nothing wrong with that, they're cool again I guess) but you also don't have to dress outside your comfort zone, like people have said just dip your toes in the water
hippurus_magnus
hippurus_magnusā€¢16mo ago
I see a good amount of this (like specifically the ā€œindie sleazeā€ style fits rather than the like 2012 skinny workwear style) on my campus in New York City. We have a fashion/design program, though Iā€™m not sure that matters.
ler
lerā€¢16mo ago
the blackbird spyplane thing mentioned earlier is the idea that there's no such thing as too big pants. If they feel big, go bigger. The author said when he bought the pair on the left they felt so comically oversized he texted his friends about it.
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Carney
CarneyOPā€¢16mo ago
wow this blew up quick. just to clarify, by 'slim' i dont mean skin tight skinny jeans and sausage casing tops. i'd like to think i dress appropriately for my size and have full range of motion in all my clothes without stretching stuff out and looking like im in a 2000s emo band
ler
lerā€¢16mo ago
yeah us elder millennials definitely have ptsd from the girlpants era i think
Carney
CarneyOPā€¢16mo ago
i just havent found that super loose and baggy looks that great on me
ler
lerā€¢16mo ago
that's fair too! but i think it's important to also make a bit of a distinction between loose, wide, and baggy
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorriganā€¢16mo ago
Thereā€™s good and bad versions of all of those too Like it always has to pass the sight test
ler
lerā€¢16mo ago
like these are three very different cuts, but all are looser than i would have worn 5 years ago
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Please Go Away
Please Go Awayā€¢16mo ago
For examples of bad versions plz refer to my posts in #waywt
ler
lerā€¢16mo ago
and when i bought these they felt like clown pants they felt so big on me
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Carney
CarneyOPā€¢16mo ago
i mean i have some 'regular' or 'classic' cut stuff that aren't technically 'slim' but they are definitely on the slimmer end when i put them on
Nayyyyy
Nayyyyyā€¢16mo ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjqt8T3tJIE&t=316s sidenote: convos on slim fit looking dated or whatever reminds me of this vsauce vid about retrospective agining and framing. if you ignore the intrinsic bit about fits of garments and body... it's just associated with what "the olds wore". or the young people who got old. queue another macro cylical fashion trend which gets jazzed up slightly before
artvandelayimporting
artvandelayimportingā€¢16mo ago
the only way to know if things look good is to post a picture here so that strangers can tell you
Piejamas
Piejamasā€¢16mo ago
My self esteem isn't low enough to rule that out, but is low enough to procrastinate on it forever
Carney
CarneyOPā€¢16mo ago
one of these days i will - when i actually need to leave the house and have an excuse to change out of gym shorts and a tank top šŸ«¤
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorriganā€¢16mo ago
Just get dolled up and go for a walk
artvandelayimporting
artvandelayimportingā€¢16mo ago
I get dressed to sit on my couch
Bigelow
Bigelowā€¢16mo ago
this was my submission for the brick flip theme WAYWT but the biggest difference between the two photos is the silhouette of the pants. There's not a dramatic difference in the outfit but IMO the less slim pants really makes everything look nicer, less constricted, less dated
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Piejamas
Piejamasā€¢16mo ago
Every instinct I have says the one on the left looks much better and it terrifies me
metcarfre
metcarfreā€¢16mo ago
the wacky angle isn't helping
Bigelow
Bigelowā€¢16mo ago
I mean that's not terrifying, it just means your sense of fashion is a bit out of date left fit would probably do just fine in 2015 MFA WAYWT
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorriganā€¢16mo ago
My brick flip also was a lot about fit
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bishopcorrigan
bishopcorriganā€¢16mo ago
The original was slim and long tee, slim and long overshirt slim pants with low rise Vs short and wide tops and wide fit denim
Piejamas
Piejamasā€¢16mo ago
I think that's the terrifying part, I've spent the last few years trying to force myself to like the more current stuff and I can't manage to do it
artvandelayimporting
artvandelayimportingā€¢16mo ago
Oh hey same
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bishopcorrigan
bishopcorriganā€¢16mo ago
Donā€™t force yourself whatā€™s the point in that
narwhal
narwhalā€¢16mo ago
I know this isn't the most flattering comparison, but my grandma has had the same haircut as long as I can remember. At one point I'm sure it was very fashionable and she just stuck with it. It doesn't look bad; she just looks like grandma
Piejamas
Piejamasā€¢16mo ago
And it makes fashion a really difficult hobby to enjoy for the time being
Bigelow
Bigelowā€¢16mo ago
that's ok though? you don't have to follow trends you can even enjoy clothing without following trends if you don't like current stuff then do your own thing and be happy! it's not that serious
rej
rejā€¢16mo ago
if you don't switch to wide fit you will be fired from your job
Piejamas
Piejamasā€¢16mo ago
I'm sure that's true, I'm still on this server to try and find that middle ground where I can still enjoy fashion without having to keep up with the curve
Bigelow
Bigelowā€¢16mo ago
well what are you into, clothing/fashion-wise?
awburkey
awburkeyā€¢16mo ago
these are v cool
Piejamas
Piejamasā€¢16mo ago
I'm mostly into the whole scandi minimalism thing that was trending a decade ago. (Sorry if this is derailing the thread, by the way)
Bigelow
Bigelowā€¢16mo ago
you can def still enjoy and explore scandi minimalism and use this server to explore various brands, figure out your ideal pair of black skinny jeans, or post/consume inspo you might not get quite as much engagement as other topics, but I bet people would be willing to discuss it here
Piejamas
Piejamasā€¢16mo ago
Hopefully, I think it's a fun challenge to find a compromise
Piejamas
Piejamasā€¢16mo ago
These are along the lines of what I wear right now, for reference
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rej
rejā€¢16mo ago
These are good looks. Would've done numbers prior to like 2018 In basically any context outside of an internet fashion board, you'd be the best dressed person in the room in this
Bigelow
Bigelowā€¢16mo ago
Yeah if I saw someone wearing that I wouldn't think that they're dressed poorly, just that they don't follow current trends
awburkey
awburkeyā€¢16mo ago
Honestly only the first fit feels that dated to me. Mostly bc of the CPs and minty raws with the big cuff
Piejamas
Piejamasā€¢16mo ago
I don't think even I'd go as skinny as the first fit right now, probably the same jeans in a straighter fit
eggtart!
eggtart!ā€¢16mo ago
scandi minimalism was the first thing that caught my eye when i started using mfa it was just like literally the most digestable lol
Carney
CarneyOPā€¢16mo ago
i think this kind of sums the whole thing up really nicely its not that stuff necessarily looks bad, it just isnt on trend with whats happening in current fashion
jfarrell468
jfarrell468ā€¢16mo ago
But...but...what if you aren't making it to waywt-highlights? šŸ˜­
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorriganā€¢16mo ago
To be clear there are plenty of slim fits thatā€™s do look bad But thereā€™s good and bad of everything
Carney
CarneyOPā€¢16mo ago
oh for sure
jfarrell468
jfarrell468ā€¢16mo ago
And most of them get posted to reddit.
awburkey
awburkeyā€¢16mo ago
I commit seppuku
jfarrell468
jfarrell468ā€¢16mo ago
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OrganGarden
OrganGardenā€¢16mo ago
Have you looked at mfpen's designs? Their whole thing is scandi-minimalism but big and slouchy. Not sure how authentically "minimalist" they are, but I'm a big fan
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jfarrell468
jfarrell468ā€¢16mo ago
I like those
narwhal
narwhalā€¢16mo ago
but i think it's safe to say that it's trending in this direction and into the mainstream. Your view that slim looks better is likely because that's what was in fashion when you started to pay attention. It's learned. And the more you see relaxed fits,the more they'll look "better" or at least normal
Carney
CarneyOPā€¢16mo ago
yeah I'm definitely seeing it a lot more. I don't dislike all the relaxed stuff, I just don't think it's for me (or I just haven't found the right pieces yet)
narwhal
narwhalā€¢16mo ago
I'd just say, try not to get stuck in this idea that there's a right or wrong way to dress for your physique (or age). That idea is also a product of a time that's passed
Piejamas
Piejamasā€¢16mo ago
That's definitely true for a lot of people, I think it's possible that for some it's the other way around, i.e. they only became interested in fashion at that time because the slim/minimal trend appealed to them
Carney
CarneyOPā€¢16mo ago
maybe not one right way, but i'm gonna venture out on a limb and say there are definite wrongs
Carney
CarneyOPā€¢16mo ago
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Smiles
Smilesā€¢16mo ago
but thats not "into fashion"
ler
lerā€¢16mo ago
maybe at the time it was
Smiles
Smilesā€¢16mo ago
like by definition choosing a specific trend and refusing to move on is not exactly "into fashion"
ler
lerā€¢16mo ago
interest wanes
Smiles
Smilesā€¢16mo ago
true of any trend
Piejamas
Piejamasā€¢16mo ago
Into clothing then, let's say
Carney
CarneyOPā€¢16mo ago
clothing vs fashion is a good way to distinguish
Smiles
Smilesā€¢16mo ago
Feel like "I'm into clothing not fashion" is just code for "I'm stuck in a specific style from a specific time" cause to some extent its meaningless
narwhal
narwhalā€¢16mo ago
xd touchƩ
Smiles
Smilesā€¢16mo ago
unless you enjoy like textile design i would say thats "into clothing" if you are into textile properties and material engineering like what is clothing vs fashion? i guess im always lost by the distinction
narwhal
narwhalā€¢16mo ago
i think i get what you're saying, but i don't see that as an important distinction
Piejamas
Piejamasā€¢16mo ago
For example, let's say you're really into hiking. You've been hiking for most of your life but you've never really thought about what you wear doing it. One year, hiking gear is trending in the fashion world, and everyone is talking about hiking gear. For that year, you start paying a lot more attention to the gear you wear and how it looks/feels Naturally the trend moves on and people aren't wearing hiking gear anymore, but for a time you had an interest in that clothing But you keep wearing what you picked up then because you're not into fashion
Carney
CarneyOPā€¢16mo ago
hmm so maybe its "into X type of clothing vs general fashion"
narwhal
narwhalā€¢16mo ago
That's a fun example and an interesting mental exercise, but it sounds like the moral is that people not into fashion can coincidenally be fashionable Which is certainly true!
Piejamas
Piejamasā€¢16mo ago
Sure, it just means that you have certain tastes, and you're interested in that thing, but only when the current trend overlaps with your existing taste I agree with you about fashion though, and if you claim to be "into fashion", you should at least be willing to give new ideas a try
narwhal
narwhalā€¢16mo ago
I'm sure that's an interesting discussion, being "accidentally fashionable" I do think that's somewhat far removed from the question of slim v relaxed fits being more stylish or refined or better with regard to x
Piejamas
Piejamasā€¢16mo ago
I suppose how I would connect that to the OP is that instead of a specific look overlapping with your tastes for a time, some of the ideas that were being floated around in fashion at the time might have overlapped with your values Maybe you were only interested in clothing for a time because you liked the idea of "timeless style", or because you liked things that look clean and simple And now that fashion has moved on from those ideas, you might find it difficult to engage with it
Carney
CarneyOPā€¢16mo ago
i think that has a lot to do with it. i like the clean and simple look and found something that works for me. ive experimented a lot in the past and now my stubborn ass doesnt want to ruin whats working and overhaul my wardrobe (again) that being said, i am open to more fashion forward pieces if i come across any that catch my eye and this stuff looks great on a lot of people, i just dont think it does on me šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø
mattw2
mattw2ā€¢16mo ago
My favourite genre of older man whilst people watching. There's always details that give it away as accidental but it's fun.
Carney
CarneyOPā€¢16mo ago
reminds me of something i read about people watching in big cities and playing the game of 'hipster or homeless?'
yurt
yurtā€¢16mo ago
"details" you can just say the shoes
iambic
iambicā€¢16mo ago
There's a huge spectrum. Sprayed on, painted on, clingy, snug, skimming, slim, slim straight, straight. A lot of other pant details will show the timeliness of it I'm not an expert on pant making but I know there are huge variations in the crotch curve, the hip section
SteezeTrain
SteezeTrainā€¢16mo ago
Where what works for you, homie. Personally felt like my love of fasion was saved by the death of slim fit. It just didnt work for my body at all and I really struggled to dress with what felt "good" Even if slim fit shit comes all the way back around I will still be wearing my sloppy straight fits
iambic
iambicā€¢16mo ago
Contrarianism works well on some
Nayyyyy
Nayyyyyā€¢16mo ago
Speaking of, have you considered letting let slim-fit die. Killing it, if you have to. Straight jean is the path to the dark side. Straight jean leads to wide pant; wide pant leads to cargo pant; cargo pant leads to cargo short. I sense much straight pant in you. JNCOs: If only you knew the power of the Dark Side! Slim-fit never told you what happened to your father. Widepant: He told me enough! He told me you killed him! JNCOs: No. I am your father! Widepant: No... No! That's not true! That's impossible! The large width of the Pant is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be... unnatural. What if I told you that MFA was now under the control of a Wide Fit of the Trousers? Itā€™s the pant that made the MFA Fit Battle in less than twelve upvotes. Iā€™ve outloosed early 2000s baggy jeans. Not the local straight pants, mind you. Iā€™m talking about the big JNCOs, now. Sheā€™s wide enough for you, old man. Never tell me the leg opening! When gone am I, the last of the slim-fit will you be. The T I M E L E S S runs strong in your family. Pass on what you have learned. Widepant: Iā€™ve been waiting for you, Skinny Pant. We meet again, at last. The circle is now complete. When I left you, I was but the learner; now I am the master. Donā€™t give in to straight jean. That leads to the wide jean. You were the chosen one! It was said that you would destroy the loose fit, not join them! You were to bring balance to the Fit, not leave it in darkness! Straight pant is forbidden. Loose pant is forbidden. Timeless fit, which I would define as unconditional widepant, is essential to MFA manā€™s life. So you might say, that we are encouraged to wear widepant. You canā€™t stop change any more than you can stop the suns from setting.
KissGo-Goat
KissGo-Goatā€¢16mo ago
I feel like people often think of relatively extreme wide fits when they say that they want to stay with slim fits
Weeg
Weegā€¢16mo ago
I dont think so tbh. Having worked in mtm youd be astounded at what people think is ā€œbaggyā€
enrondidnothingwrong
enrondidnothingwrongā€¢16mo ago
I myself prefer relax taper or straight fit to slim for most outfits, if not simply for the comfort. I view the shift away from slim as a positive thing. But honestly I feel annoyed at the wide pants zeitgeist thatā€™s taking over every single fit everywhere all the time nowadays. Itā€™s almost become as dogmatic as slim fit was mid last decade, such that anyone who wears slim is seen as not fashion conscious or outdated. Itā€™s like hearing a pop song played on the radio over and over again to the point that it gets annoying. Iā€™ve noticed that the more trendy and popular something becomes, the more poorly it will age and the more dated it will look when it falls out of favor. Fatigue (pun intended) with wide fits will come eventually just like it did with slim fits, and those trying to pull it off after that time will look just as ā€œdatedā€ as slim fits look to the wide fit zeitgeist today.
KissGo-Goat
KissGo-Goatā€¢16mo ago
Yeah maybe I'm off base here. Something I saw in a few vids but maybe not as applicable to real live But you are dressing for now right and not for fotos in 10 years.
Smiles
Smilesā€¢16mo ago
Why would I care what I think of how I dressed in 10 years when I could care about how I dress rn Absolutely wild to me people are that afraid to laugh at themselves years down the line
KissGo-Goat
KissGo-Goatā€¢16mo ago
I would maybe consider it for some very limited items that are supposed to hold for a long time or wedding fotos.
enrondidnothingwrong
enrondidnothingwrongā€¢16mo ago
Yeah, trends are for now yeah. But for me personally, I kind of hate just doing or wearing something just because itā€™s popular. Itā€™s almost as if I didnā€™t choose it because I liked it, but I just decided that I want to fit in and everyone else is doing it.
KissGo-Goat
KissGo-Goatā€¢16mo ago
Oh yeah I get what you mean. Like not being sure if you want something because you actually do like it or because of the hype
enrondidnothingwrong
enrondidnothingwrongā€¢16mo ago
Not afraid to laugh at myself years down the line, but thatā€™s not necessarily my goal when choosing what to wear haha
SteezeTrain
SteezeTrainā€¢16mo ago
Fashion as a hobby also isn't really a journey with a destination imo. There's trying to be fashionable with current trends and then there's development of fashion as an extension of your personality and expression. If you look dumb in 10 years who cares? You had fun in the moment I think too many folks view certain windows of trends as the pinnacle of what is correct
Smiles
Smilesā€¢16mo ago
Also wanna point out if you hit it right often it will looked dated but cool
enrondidnothingwrong
enrondidnothingwrongā€¢16mo ago
Yeah I mean maybe an extreme example of this is like FOG essentials or Panda Dunks. Theyā€™re so popular saturated and everywhere that I know theyā€™re going to look super dated.
Smiles
Smilesā€¢16mo ago
Even if it's very trendy Plenty of great super trendy fits from all the decades people "laugh at"
KissGo-Goat
KissGo-Goatā€¢16mo ago
I feel like there a some overall trends like the way clothes fit and then there some very specific item based trends
enrondidnothingwrong
enrondidnothingwrongā€¢16mo ago
Right, thatā€™s why the current zeitgeist of wide fits kind of annoys me nowadays. Iā€™m maybe more toward the expression aspect than the following trends aspect.
iambic
iambicā€¢16mo ago
Would anyone be wearing the latest stuff at age 90?
SteezeTrain
SteezeTrainā€¢16mo ago
if I still have the energy
Smiles
Smilesā€¢16mo ago
Following trends isn't mutually exclusive with having self expression
SteezeTrain
SteezeTrainā€¢16mo ago
Its all about lenses. The modern zeitgeist might give you new cool things you never thought about or had access too Like look at military surplus liner jackets Those rising in trend have given rise to a whole new category of outerwear, vests, ect
Weeg
Weegā€¢16mo ago
Trends are cool. They give you access to new things to try, and from there you can take what you want and leave the rest behind Without them the clothing world is a boring place
SteezeTrain
SteezeTrainā€¢16mo ago
Reality is none of us will ever look exactly the same. None of us have the same tastes, same bodies, same wardrobes Trends are fun IMO I think people get a bit too high on trends and declare something as overtly correct then in 3 fasion cycles they look silly What would music look like if nothing ever changed
KissGo-Goat
KissGo-Goatā€¢16mo ago
In some ways having a bit of restriction is also pretty crucial for creativity in my mind. I think not following every trend is often the correct thing but avoiding things just because they are on trend is also being lead by them. I would just see what you like from the trends while following some of the rules of the time I kinda get it for very expensive types of items. You don't want to buy a nice winter coat just for it being out of fashion the next winter
iambic
iambicā€¢16mo ago
I like how designers dress, like they never update their wardrobe in a pullover and old jeans and uncool sneakers
KissGo-Goat
KissGo-Goatā€¢16mo ago
To be fair if fashion was your job would you want to do it in your spare time
iambic
iambicā€¢16mo ago
I don't work it and the bleeding edge already exhausts me
Carney
CarneyOPā€¢16mo ago
i think this is where the cheaper 'fast fashion' places like zara/uniqlo come in. you can get the current fashion without feeling terrible about throwing it out after a relatively short time. then if you find something in the process that you like regardless of how trendy it is, you can upgrade to something of better quality
iambic
iambicā€¢16mo ago
At this point 1mm off the break of a pant will cement it as yesterday's or today's
jibba
jibbaā€¢16mo ago
As others have mentioned, I think the main appeal of trends is that they give you license to try something that might seem goofy at another moment. They expand the range of expression by being a safety net, of sorts. I like to think of those as ā€œpositive trends.ā€ Negative trends, otoh, when certain modes of expression are discouraged as ā€œuncoolā€, are less useful, imo. I do enjoy the differing appeals of skinny, slim, and wide, so it would be nice if all were considered cool.
Affluence
Affluenceā€¢16mo ago
Also, there's nothing really interesting being done in slim/skinny fits right now from a design/fabric POV so naturally when I see new stuff it's in a more relaxed silhouette
jibba
jibbaā€¢16mo ago
But what can you do. I find myself caring less as I get older. It makes me think about when I was so anxious going to school because my shorts didnā€™t cover my knees and my socks showed.
Affluence
Affluenceā€¢16mo ago
Part of the trend is that when I see slim fits in 2023, it's exact copies of what I saw 5-6 years ago. It's not really interesting. That will change once designers start playing with a slim silhouette and bringing novelty and something different.
jibba
jibbaā€¢16mo ago
Totally. I think thereā€™s a big appeal for something to be refreshing to look at.
Affluence
Affluenceā€¢16mo ago
And this is from someone who was late to let go of the "slim fit is good fit" train.
jibba
jibbaā€¢16mo ago
I myself actually dressed in straight/regular fit most of my life, with a couple baggy jeans as a teen, so Iā€™m ready to try something new from that. Relatedly, I think the first question we ask ourselves when we get dressed in the morning is who we are dressing for. Our personal style depends a lot on the answer that each of us land on. (Of course, we donā€™t need a single answer. Could be Our job. Our community (which one? Our religion? Friends? Online enthusiasts?). Ourselves.)
SteezeTrain
SteezeTrainā€¢16mo ago
I dress for Jesus āœļø
jibba
jibbaā€¢16mo ago
Thatā€™s awesome that Rick sees your fits.
Aaron šŸ
Aaron šŸā€¢16mo ago
I dress for the younger, broker me who would stare at slp lookbooks and tumblr. Skinny forever.
iambic
iambicā€¢16mo ago
Hedi at SLP and Celine really championed that body type
mcribbed
mcribbedā€¢14mo ago
imo wide pants hide the ass
Affluence
Affluenceā€¢14mo ago
Vast disagree, wide pants have nearly nothing to do with the top block Unless you're either: Wearing a high rise too low Wearing an incorrect waist size.
mcribbed
mcribbedā€¢14mo ago
i'm not doing anything of the sort because i exclusively wear slim/slim straight since idk what fashion is
yurt
yurtā€¢14mo ago
Only if you don't have one
Smiles
Smilesā€¢14mo ago
than why comment? last comment in this bait thread was over a month ago
mcribbed
mcribbedā€¢14mo ago
i feel like even if they show the top curve they don't show the bottom curve of the bottom, am i missing something?
raisinpie
raisinpieā€¢14mo ago
not everyone dresses to show off their ass? its not that deep
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorriganā€¢14mo ago
What is happening Lmao
rej
rejā€¢14mo ago
Assless men are rising up
Affluence
Affluenceā€¢14mo ago
Bring back flatbutt^tm
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorriganā€¢14mo ago
Just wear all spandex if you want to look like a tom of Finland drawing
Affluence
Affluenceā€¢14mo ago
Have ya'll discovered... SKIMS MEN
raisinpie
raisinpieā€¢14mo ago
.
rej
rejā€¢14mo ago
Saving for later ty
yurt
yurtā€¢14mo ago
Sometimes an intentional concealment reveals more than direct demonstration
rej
rejā€¢14mo ago
Something something imagination
yurt
yurtā€¢14mo ago
I was about to say "determinate negation" because I'm in philosophy class rn
Digs
Digsā€¢14mo ago
This mf spittin
mcribbed
mcribbedā€¢14mo ago
i mean idk how much this intentional concealment is revealing
rej
rejā€¢14mo ago
Just say you have no ass man It's ok
mcribbed
mcribbedā€¢14mo ago
;-;
Digs
Digsā€¢14mo ago
Just wear big pants and dont worry about your ass
Affluence
Affluenceā€¢14mo ago
Or wear skinny pants and don't worry about your ass
werkinprogress
werkinprogressā€¢14mo ago
Or work on your ass and don't worry about pants
mcribbed
mcribbedā€¢14mo ago
it's a WIP
Affluence
Affluenceā€¢14mo ago
All pants conceal the ass, return to chaps
raisinpie
raisinpieā€¢14mo ago
thats trademarked delete
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorriganā€¢14mo ago
Simply dress cool
raisinpie
raisinpieā€¢14mo ago
if you have a cool fit your ass will gain confidence to emerge into the sunlight
rej
rejā€¢14mo ago
Simply develop anterior pelvic tilt
raisinpie
raisinpieā€¢14mo ago
i tape a picture of my ass to my pants so nothing is left to the imagination
Digs
Digsā€¢14mo ago
No description
jibba
jibbaā€¢14mo ago
ā€œRevealed preferenceā€ in economics
yurt
yurtā€¢14mo ago
Not the same thing
jibba
jibbaā€¢14mo ago
Thought I could skate by on my context clues
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