ASA multi part fails (singles print fine)

Printing some enclosure parts and optionals. Single parts come out fine but anytime I do multiples it fails and the tip gets goopy. Any idea where to start tweaking? Retraction?
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PollePro
PollePro17mo ago
Temp on bed? retraction? Nozzle temp?
DanO
DanOOP17mo ago
First layer bed 80C then to 90. 240C nozzle. 1.5mm retraction 25mm/s. Flashforge ASA. 0% fan
xenial-black
xenial-black17mo ago
Try 100/110 for the bed.
DanO
DanOOP17mo ago
Isn’t the glass temp around 97?
xenial-black
xenial-black17mo ago
You have to check it, i dont use glass bed.
PollePro
PollePro17mo ago
Do u use any kind of adhisiv glue?
xenial-black
xenial-black17mo ago
I use a PEI sheet and it works without any glue. I usually print at 100/110
PollePro
PollePro17mo ago
It just looks like there is some glue on the picture 🙂
xenial-black
xenial-black17mo ago
It's not me with the problem 🙂
PollePro
PollePro17mo ago
I know, Thats why i ask him if he use glue and what kind 🙂
multiple-amethyst
multiple-amethyst17mo ago
have you tried enabling z-hop?
DanO
DanOOP17mo ago
Z-hop is enabled Using glue yes, on glass bed. Only have a textured pei on the other side. Heard that would damage it so sticking to glass for now.
umop3plsdn3dlus
umop3plsdn3dlus17mo ago
Pretty sure they are meaning the glassing temp of the filament. If its polymaker asa, I think it's 110? So maybe try your bed at 108
sensitive-blue
sensitive-blue17mo ago
print on the textured pei asa won't damage it, squish the filament a bit, don't use glue, set bed at 110 . Start with low fan speed (10%), if corners are curling up increase the fan speed in 5% increments follow this and will work 100% don't use different temps for the first layer
DanO
DanOOP17mo ago
I read a lot of stories of people ruining their textured pei plates with ASA. I am bit hesitant to do that.
sensitive-blue
sensitive-blue17mo ago
with asa or with wrong z offset and nozzle crashing in the bed? This is my pei sheet after a year and 2 months of printing abs and asa(around 30kg) in the middle you see user error (z offset too low and nozzle dragging on the bed)
sensitive-blue
sensitive-blue17mo ago
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sensitive-blue
sensitive-blue17mo ago
your choice though👍
helpful-purple
helpful-purple17mo ago
Can you post pics of the successful prints (especially the bottom)? If the marks on the bed in the glue in OP are any indication then you might need more first layer/Z squish. Pics will confirm.
DanO
DanOOP17mo ago
I could certainly try that. Do you think the gooping on the nozzle is just because the poor adhesion rather than a retraction issue?
helpful-purple
helpful-purple17mo ago
It might be, yes. When you say "gooping on the nozzle" is this a little bit near the beginning of the print? Or a lot built up around the nozzle after the parts have knocked off the bed? The former could be the filament not sticking to the bed and "floating" around the nozzle (the nozzle could be stickier than the bed, as far as the filament is concerned, so it stick there instead of falling off) because there's not enough layer squish. The latter gooping is to be expected if a part comes off the bed and doesn't need its own fix. 😉
DanO
DanOOP17mo ago
Tried again increasing retraction and retraction speed and decreasing retraction gap. Seems to have worked. We’ll see in a couple hours but it printed ok for about 4hours so far All of you were right. Needed better squish on first layer and increase my bed temps.. Had nothing to do with retraction.

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