Critical Cloudflare 503's on Express Backend

Two quick questions on outages I've using Cloudflare + Railway 1. Does railway do any rate-limiting? If so, can this be disabled? 2. Is there a more lengthy post about issues when enabling cloudflare for backend services? (beyond what is mentioned here https://docs.railway.app/deploy/exposing-your-app) What we're seeing is that immediately after enabling the Cloudflare orange cloud, the express backend chokes on 100% of requests returning 503 errors. I've had many back-and-forths with the Cloudflare team and the current guess is that the origin server (Railway) is throwing these 503s.
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milo
milo3y ago
Does railway do any rate-limiting? If so, can this be disabled?
no, it doesn't do any ratelimiting
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JustJake
JustJake3y ago
Did you see the Cloudflare section at the bottom? Where you need to have it set to full not flexible? We don’t do rate limiting
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daws.ethOP3y ago
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daws.ethOP3y ago
I have it set to full not flexible api.earni.fi is where all these issues are happening Project: 46b499ee-c469-4cd0-8d59-e80657e4db3c Service: 90a80fa7-879c-4463-8675-e3a1aeeafc8c
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daws.eth
daws.ethOP3y ago
Short-term outage, apologies. Upstream API went down that my whole app relies on. Should be fixed soon
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daws.ethOP3y ago
Fixed! Ready for your thoughts 🙏 https://api.earni.fi/v1/health
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daws.eth
daws.ethOP3y ago
No, because I've disabled cloudflare The moment I enable cloudflare I get all the 503's included in the chrome inspector screenshot above
JustJake
JustJake3y ago
Can you put cf infront of api2? So we can see
daws.eth
daws.ethOP3y ago
I cannot. If I enable cloudflare at all (grey cloud) it will still 503 all of "api.*"
JustJake
JustJake3y ago
Right but do it on api2? Or add another route that we can check on? Without repro it’s impossible to check
daws.eth
daws.ethOP3y ago
Here is Cloudflare support's most-recent message
daws.eth
daws.ethOP3y ago
I've been going back-and-forth with them nearly 2-months on this issue
JustJake
JustJake3y ago
We have a boatload of people who use orange cloud on Railway So this is quite odd It seems to be a config issue somewhere Because this is very possible
daws.eth
daws.ethOP3y ago
Config within my cloudflare configuration? If cloudflare were doing the 503's, it would be a cloudflare error though
JustJake
JustJake3y ago
Likely, since the Railway setup is pretty straightforward But I need to narrow it down Can you add an api3 that just points to api? And turn on orange cloud for it?
daws.eth
daws.ethOP3y ago
This first began with someone DOSing my systems two months ago. Thousands of requests per minute I cannot, because currently cloudflare is "paused" at the global level for the entire domain. All routes are resolved with only the cloudflare nameservers. If I enable any cloudflare DNS, it will 503 the primary "api.*" Everything is set to grey cloud in the above example ^
JustJake
JustJake3y ago
But you can do it on a per URL level from the DNS section right? Like what does your DNS page look like
daws.eth
daws.ethOP3y ago
JustJake
JustJake3y ago
Ya don’t do that
daws.eth
daws.ethOP3y ago
JustJake
JustJake3y ago
Go to DNS and toggle it on a route
daws.eth
daws.ethOP3y ago
Turn on orange cloude?
JustJake
JustJake3y ago
On just that one route
daws.eth
daws.ethOP3y ago
If cloudflare is disabled it won't send traffic anyways? I'll enable api2 now
JustJake
JustJake3y ago
If you need api and api2 Add api3
daws.eth
daws.ethOP3y ago
I do not need api2, that was the point of making it Enabled.
JustJake
JustJake3y ago
Perf Kk let’s see
daws.eth
daws.ethOP3y ago
Will check back in an hour, going into a meeting 🙏
JustJake
JustJake3y ago
Sounds good It looks fine to me BTW https://api2.earni.fi/v1/health CF is pretty instant
daws.eth
daws.ethOP3y ago
And you're verifying that is indeed going through Cloudflare? I don't know how api2.* could be using the cloudflare orange cloud if the global "advanced actions" of disabling cloudflare is still set to Disabled Hey folks, api2 does not have cloudflare working still. Since my global config has cloudflare disabled
JustJake
JustJake3y ago
Ya saw that quite odd :/ Do you have another domain you could point there and enable it? Hard to test what’s up otherwise :S
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