Structure solution bug
That mod causing bug. When we use it we cant use hand tools. That bug was report for an other mod Efficiency checker. The moder said by SMM he cant do nothing because he dont have the neccessary ressources to fix it. Then he wont fix it. Another mod as the same bug: FICSIT farming.
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1) I doubt your issue has anything to do with Structural Solutions. It only adds new buildings and doesn't interfere with equipment in any way.
2) If one of the mod authors already told you the bug is in their mod and that they can't fix it, I don't know what you expect us to do. Perhaps try... not using that mod?
3) For issues with FICSIT Farming, please visit this server (FICSIT Farming is part of Refined R&D):
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If you have any bugs, suggestions or need help with any of Refined R&D's mods you will probably get more help on their dedicated discord server.
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there is the file.
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Key Details for SMMDebug-2025-03-27-15-43-50.zip triggered by @Mabbe 17Is wrong I have only 5 mods installed.
This is the note from the modder for Efficiency checker mod.
So, what are your expectations of this thread? You know it's Efficiency Checker, not Structural Solutions. Structural Solutions isn't even installed on your mod profile. You know the Efficiency Checker author knows about the bug, and you know they are currently unable to do anything about it. There's really not much else that anyone can do for you.
I dont use that mod. (Efficiency checker. I useng the 2 other mod. But when I installed those 2 mods i have the same trouble like Efficiency checker. So something is wrong with Structure solution and ficsit farming. Its why I removed it from my game to see if it is returning to normal.
Ahhh, okay. I understand what you mean now, Efficiency Checker was just your comparison. Okay, so: I still highly doubt it's Structural Solutions. Like I said, it doesn't add any equipment or equipment slots, nor does it modify any of those from the base-game. FICSIT Farming I'm less sure about, however. It's quite an extensive mod (I haven't quite got round to setting it up properly myself). You'd probably have better luck asking about it at the Refined R&D server linked above.
I doubt somewhat that it's a bug with either of those mods alone as I have both & have used them extensively & haven't had that issue before
It could be a combination of one of them and something else, though neither add or modify hand tools so don't think it's likely
Is there something that happens in game before the hand tools stop being able to be used that is consistent each time? And what other mods do you have installed currently?
What do you mean by "cant use hand tools"? Can you elaborate on that? Also, there could be some keybind conflicts, can you please post this file
\AppData\Local\FactoryGame\Saved\Config\Windows\GameUserSetting.ini
If I click to use a tools nothing happened. In the first screenshot the modder told us about the bug with the tools.
Please post this file so I can determine if this is a keybind conflict
\AppData\Local\FactoryGame\Saved\Config\Windows\GameUserSetting.ini
ok
Hmm, I don't see any rebinds for Primary/Secondary fire so I guess that's not the problem.
But what is it?
I do not know, but I highly doubt it has anything to do with Structural Solutions.
The bug happened after I add Structure solution. After that I remove SS and add FICSIT farming and I have the same bug. So with 3 differents mod we got the same bug. But I use only 2 of them. Its maybe happenning with few other mods.
For now I cant play Satisfactory without hand tools.
What keys do you normally press to use/activate hand tools?
Left/Right mouse button?
For your info I have more than 3000 hour of play without any problem. But since one month I have that problem.
Mouse wheel by default.
Too chosse one and mouse button.
My intuition still tells me that this is a key bind conflict of some sort, but perhaps not.
The only command I change is for the light: L
If you dont mind, you could do a test by resetting all controls to default (you can back up that ini file, so you wont lose the config)
Each time the bug happened I restart the game and its return to normal. But after a certain amount of time the bug happened again.
Could possibly be a key mapping context that isn't being removed properly
What can I do to remove it?
If it is the case.
You cant, its the modders responsibility to remove it in the code when the context is no longer needed. I'm not sure that's the issue anyway, but it could cause this problem.
I see.
An other player MATTDTO using the same 2 mods as me having the same trouble too. He confirm it on Refined R&D server on Discord. Something is wrong with those mod.
To be fair, I'd say 75+% of modded players are using those two mods, so that doesn't say a lot
I'm also using those two mods and haven't experienced the issue - it may even be a rare base game issue, there just isn't enough info to track it down yet
>verifysteam
might be worth a shot
In fairness, after reading through the other thread on the RnD discord to see if I could find out more about the issue the other player you've mentioned said that they are experiencing the same bug but weren't sure whether it was related to those mods as they have a lot of mods
As they're both very popular mods if it was an issue with those mods together surely more people would be experiencing the bug. I've been using both mods (and many more) for a very long time & have never experienced the bug you're having
As it is I'm still fairly sure that it's either a keymapping issue with another mod as D4rk suggested, or an issue with those mods in conjunction with another mod you both have, or aa bug caused by another mod entirely
To help us all try and narrow down (and replicate) the bug you're having please post a list of all of the other mods you're using and confirm if there's anything in particular you're doing in common before the bug occurseaach time
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Thank you! That got buried in the messages for me so I missed it entirely
@Mabbe 17 were these mods all the ones on as the problem was happening?
Before this gets buried, and before Mabbe goes any further, this (verify Steam install) should be their next step. Quick & easy to do, can sort a lot of edge-case issues, and will ensure we're troubleshooting on a reliable foundation.
I have only 5 mods and no problem with them. But when I add FICSIT farming or structure solution the problem appear.
Please try the Steam File Verification process as directed above: https://discord.com/channels/555424930502541343/1354648665729405040/1355133521064235190
I talking with the modder master on Refined R&D server on Discord then I dont know what is causing this but few other players saying they have the same trouble as me.
I did it but no result.
Including reinstallation of the game.
Does the issue occur if you have the mod enabled on a new save? It's possible that by turning off the mod, you just reduce the number of uobjects the game has to deal with, which avoids the bug from triggering
I am not the only one to have that issue.
You should probably do as MadCat says though, and upload another Debug ZIP from a game which has FICSIT Farming enabled, so they can take a look at it from that side.
But I remain fairly certain that Structural Solutions is not the problem. It just has nothing in it that would impact the weapon viewmodel.
It's possible that if you had Efficiency Checker enabled in the past (since you seem to know about its issue, I'm guessing you have) that the issue is somehow persistent in your save.
I delete all files of the game manually and automatically and desinstall the game completly. I reinstalled the game adding 5 little mods one by one and I had no problem. But when I add structure solution and after that FICSIT farming without SS mod that issue reappeared. If we have that issue playing with different mod I think that issue come from the game itself. because its at least for now 3 different mod causing it. So that's not a mod but something in the game.
When you uninstalled the game, did you delete your save too? Or are you loading this back into the same save?
You also said the bug appeared with SS Mod disabled and FICSIT Farming enabled, so it would appear that SS Mod isn't the issue there ― did you test it with just SS Mod enabled but without FICSIT Farming?
I did it. I deleted the savegame too. All the thing. And I was talking with Madcat too. And he dont know what is causing it.
Other player confirm the same issue with FICSIT farming too.
Tracking down this issue is neither going to be quick nor easy. That's just the nature of rare issues. I agree with McCovican, I don't think it's a Structural Solutions issue. I don't think it's a Ficsit Farming issue either, as like SS it doesn't add or modify anything relating to hand tools.
My best guess is that it's a general modded Satisfactory issue that gets triggered by the combination of variables used by the game on your machine, as well as the machines of a few others. These may even include external variables like processor, GPU, Memory, etc. Only real way to track it down will be for someone to collect as many data points as possible from affected players and analyze them to try to figure out what they have in common.
I understand but we have one thing in common. When we add one of those mod the problem happened.
Correlation does not equal causation. In fact, causation can be ruled out by the sheer number of other people who have added the same two mods without seeing the same issue.
Its appeared also some players having that issue after update 8 if I referring to internet. Maybe its relate.
My initial thought was the FOV (Field of view) with the new panini material function for equipment.
https://discord.com/channels/555424930502541343/1316684997326934046
@Mabbe 17 Could you try and change this back to defaults and see if that fixes it? its in video settings
My video setting is on default. I didnt change anything and I am on minimum too.
There's also a good possibility that this is a rare base-game bug. A quick google search has provided me with several posts on reddit and the like from people who have had bugged hand tools or missing hands in the last 6 months or so
I believe there were changes to the way equipment works included in the early ficsmas patches
This one specifically has a "Me too!" post less than a month old:https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/1g0lkla/i_keep_losing_my_hands/
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Odd, I didn't have the issue in Ficsmas. I do have it now. I do not have the efficiency checker mod. So it's not that.
I wonder if it's something of a combo? A base game bug exacerbated by the latest version of the modding tools?
I wonder if it's something of a combo? A base game bug exacerbated by the latest version of the modding tools?
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the bug is related to scale of the hand tool with different FOVs, not tools vanishing. It does not interefer with existing equipement. Despite it reusing the model for the object scanner, it does not have any relation to any equipment and does not interfere with anything
I wouldn't worry about it. Efficiency Checker's FOV issue was only brought up as a comparison for what was actually happening to them ― there was a bit of a language barrier I think.
Yep, I got it reading throught. Was just doing some "ego search" to see if there were anything being talked that could require an answer