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Admincraftโ€ข2w ago
jadyen

obfuscate minecraft seed

so theres people that uses some mincraft pie chart to locate structures, is it possible to make it so that you can't find structures using that? also ive seen people use seedcracker to crack mnicraft seeds, is it also possible to find a way to disable that? Maybe obfuscate the seed or somethign ive heard similar?
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Lunaiskey
Lunaiskeyโ€ข2w ago
the pie chart is an extra bit of the f3 menu thats existed in the game for pretty much as long as i can remember, its use it so show how long it took to render things, the data you can get from that is more specific such as like chests and such which structures tend to have some so you can atleast find certain things around you. that cant exactly be disabled by the server and i dont think you can do much about it without hindering regular people the thing is people dont tend to have direct access to your seed if you disallow the /seed command being used but theres plenty of ways to try to reverse engineer the seed. but still then thats not always good enough on spigot servers and their forks since structures have a different seed then the current map
jadyen
jadyenOPโ€ข2w ago
so is there a way to try to prevent reverse engineering it?
Tamz
Tamzโ€ข2w ago
If you use custom world gen probably
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To clarify a bit, obfuscating seed and prevent pieray are two different things
jadyen
jadyenOPโ€ข2w ago
i wanted to prevent pieray first, but apparently it seems taht it isnt really possible so i was wondering if its possible to obfuscate seeds as it seems thats the only choice
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For obfuscation people either use a fork or a plugin that uses a different seed to generate structures, since most seed crackers use structures to determine which seed your world has On the other hand, pieray is the thing on the f3, I havenโ€™t tested if raytrace antixray can solve that, probably should
Tamz
Tamzโ€ข2w ago
Exactly why do you want this btw? @jadyen Large playerbase, Anarchy player's, Annoying people, Etc
jadyen
jadyenOPโ€ข2w ago
annoying people that joins for the first day on the server and managing to retrieve themselves 5 trials 5 bastions and 5 end cities ๐Ÿ˜ญ
Tamz
Tamzโ€ข2w ago
:hmm: Unless they use some crazy cracked client. That takes a lot of work to find it day 1
jadyen
jadyenOPโ€ข2w ago
i saw seedcracker myself, i dont think its that hard to crack it i guess
Tamz
Tamzโ€ข2w ago
interesting
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I donโ€™t think thereโ€™s a real fix for that, even without pieray they can use a cheat client with freecam The end cities part could very well be seed cracking tho
jadyen
jadyenOPโ€ข2w ago
freecam is fine with me a lot of my friends use freecam for building, just wondering if theres a way to just remove the seedcracking and pieray is there a example that you know of?
jadyen
jadyenOPโ€ข2w ago
thanks alot
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GitHub
GitHub - DrexHD/SeedGuard: Minecraft fabric mod to protect your wor...
Minecraft fabric mod to protect your world seeds by altering feature and structure placement, preventing seed cracking. - DrexHD/SeedGuard
jadyen
jadyenOPโ€ข2w ago
thanks a quck question, how does it work itself?
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But if your world is already generated I don't think it will be of much use tbh, your structures are already generated
jadyen
jadyenOPโ€ข2w ago
thats alright, we were planning on restarting anyways
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It does this When they crack the seed using the structures, they will retrieve a completely different seed
jadyen
jadyenOPโ€ข2w ago
oh so they kinda mix the seeds up?
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Might have a couple of bypasses using other techniques, but this will probably drive away the average skid yup
jadyen
jadyenOPโ€ข2w ago
oh thats pretty cool i dont think theyll be going that far to crack a seed thanks alot and pieray is very hard to prevent? except for raytracer antixray which is paid
jadyen
jadyenOPโ€ข2w ago
oh thanks, if it works ill think about buying it then
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Even if it works I'm not sure I can recommend it, support has been dead Unless you plan on staying on 1.21.4 for a while after 1.21.5 releases or they update fast
jadyen
jadyenOPโ€ข2w ago
oh really alright then if it works ill think about it, i dont think theyll abuse pieray alot if they cant use seedcracker another question because im not sure if i post another forum im gonna get warned, is it possible to reduce the size of veins in minecraft? like reduce the amount of iron ore that spawns
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Btw, about the seed cracking, you can also change the seed for structures in spigot.yml
Spigot Configuration | PaperMC Docs
An explanation of Spigot's configuration file.
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You can do that on world generation settings but realistically speaking you'll probably spend hours understanding that format, so I'd just generate a world in singleplayer using the GUI and then move it to the server
Minecraft Wiki
Java Edition level format
Each level is its own folder. A level folder is often identified by having a level.dat file, along with other subfolders to store the maps and regions of the level.
jadyen
jadyenOPโ€ข2w ago
alright thanks alot man got it appreciate it alot

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