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mesa needs to be updated in the terra repos and then we need to do an image build after that
currently the mesa build is failing iirc
and SCALE is happening this week so everyone is kind of not super available atm
Do we know an ETA? Iโm currently unable to use the machine I have bazzite on now.
and SCALE is happening this week so everyone is kind of not super available atm
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Wendell lists what you need to get it running. Modify your image at your own risk.
Anyone have an example PR of the last time a kernel bump was done? I'm willing to give it a shot if I have something to work off of!
6.14 doesnt exist yet
antheas has to build the kernel first and the only kernels we do are stable kernels
so if you want a non stable kernel you need the sources from fedora, remake our akmods repo for that kernel since we dont do non stable kernels
then you need to patch gnome/kde to work with new mesa since its not out yet
Oh I see so its not as simiple as number of version bumps to get it going.
Bummer I would help out but thats abit beyond my capablities right now.
yeah its why we tell people to calm down and wait, this happens every time there is a new architecture generation
same thing happened with intel arc b580 (except that mainly needed a new kernel that came into testing like 2 days later)
problem is that 9070 release clashes with SCaLE and requires a new mesa
the kernel has the driver bits needed, mesa just doesnt use it yet because the cards didnt exist in the market yet
nobara is confirmed working, not sure if there are any other fedora based distros there yet, but dont leave ur pc bricked. Bazzite will be updated soon
Interesting. They yolod mesa 25 on its own
If it releases in fedora it will be here in 1-2 days
Glad I'm still waiting to buy gpu there is no rush : which is something I told myself before, I was thinking maybe I week or two I will buy it than. But as newbe3 I will ask should I download while new iso or just update. Bazzite after installation. I mean after update?
It's good to see that it shouldn't be to long before RDNA4 gets support. My card shows up Friday, but I dual boot Win 11 so I can hang out in there for a minute. My 6800XT is great, but an upgrade would be super great.
mesa 25 is in
testing as of this morning EU time
no firmware still but games will at least workThat's awesome! Thanks for all the work you guys put into Bazzite! It's great stuff.
very .. thanks for everything ..... im happy my friend pushed me away from windows to bazzite ..... thanks for everything and the good work
and now im in waiting for run for release
Just got my hands on mine a few minutes ago guess Ill have to wait a while
At least the system boots up and I can browse the web and code and stuff
Don't have to rely on windows for absolutely everything
(I really don't want to go back ๐ญ)
testing support should be there
support in testing*
will probably roll to stable today
Oh shoot awesome timing!
thats the magic sentence we all waited for ๐
Tomorrow
thanks alot
@Cereal @Moshenokoji Katanaway
Thanks! Got mine today and it's working for everything in testing except for hardware acceleration in firefox.
That sounds great. By the time I get mine, everything should be good to go!
next monday i will install bazzite on my new pc
I ain't done nothin
I'm just a user
sorry for the ping but I want to ask for a bit of clarification. The new Mesa driver will support running games on the GPU but what does a missing firmware mean? Would it mean degraded performance? Is that something related to the kernel or is it mesa related? Sorry if it's kind of a loaded question but I'm just curious lol
Missing the firmware usually means the driver will have limited functionality or won't work at all.
Example from Ayaneo devices. Only one speaker will play audio due to missing firmware or no speakers will play audio
I see
Thanks
We will wait patiently ๐ซก
Been going ok for me with the testing branch and a 9070xt. Only had one game crash and it was early access and pretty janky with video drivers even with a 6700xt.
I do get a black screen but it comes back, actually working better than with the 6700xt. Sometimes it would totally lose signal (happend in windows too).
I am admittedly running 240hz 1440p on 49'' super ultrawide monitor over a 10 foot display cable and its using DSC. I need to use a shorter cable and see if issue persists. It honestly happens more on the desktop then when I have a game running.
oh yeah there are so much stuff in that setup that can be a problem ๐
I think I'm just going to attach my tower to the side of the sit/stand desk at this point. Actual legit VESA certified cables shouldn't be this hard to find (and I am pretty sure they dont exist for anything over 6 feet).
Oh yea I forgot to mention its all running through a physical TESmart KVM too, you know for added complication (issues persist if I run directly to the monitor though)
im rebasing to testing rn
I just flipped to the latest testing that depricated the kernal version. Less black screen flashes now.
I was benchmarking yesterday on windows and while it was fun playing games im just so used to gnome on my main desktop that it just felt wrong
id rather deal with bugs and potentially worse perf and just be on bazzite lol
Yea the biggest issue ive had is one of my games just crashed when i tried to launch. But its early access and has had driver issues in general. So probably on the gamedev.
Other stuff runs just fine
makes sense
I dont rly play many new games anyway I only really upgrade to play older games better so I doubt ill have much issues
Yea probably be fine
They did mention somewhere that the mesa 25 drivers should be coming to stable branch tomorrow. I will prob switch back to that when available.
oh in this channel duh
yeah lmao
prolly same
I should rebase to non nvidia image while im at it lol
no real reason to do it but no reason not to either
ope guess screen sharing might be an issue
obs is barely refreshing at all
Hmm I havent tried that yet with 9070xt it worked well enough with 6700xt a couple months ago.
Discord screen sharing doesnt work through the application (but it does through firefox browser).
Thats on discord devs though
oh actually screen sharing works on vesktop
I did have to set it to x11 on flatseal though, screensharing with it running under wayland caused some really annoying audio crackling issues and performance drops for me
I havent tried discord screen sharing yet since I havent hopped on a call
will do soon
sorry to bump this guys,
hows things going with the 9070xt drivers ? and will it be rolled into the nvidia update image aswell >
ive been using the nvidia image for a while but have swapped gpus a few times, hoping the new radeon drivers work with the nvidia image to
Cheers
Im on the nvidia image and its working on the testing branch. It's got some weirdness like obs screen capture being insanely laggy and discord not playing certain videos and discord screen sharing having encoding errors occasionally
but nothing like catastrophic
totes usable
@dansv8 [ERIC] if you need to use em right now and dont wanna wait till they hit stable you can rebase to the testing branch by typing
brh rebase testing into the terminalThanks @Cereal , I've not done a rebase before, will that mess up my desktop / apps / what I have installed ? I'm new to Linux and rebase sounds like a windows reset ๐๐
nope
all my stuff is intact
nvidia image is just "normal image with nvidia driver added"
we already added the firmware and mesa 25, should come to stable soon
I don't mind going to the test image and playing around ๐ will give it a go later Ty
Switching to stable image with the firmware/MESA 25 drivers
It has reached Stable?
Yup 6 hours ago
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Nice
Thanks for the support
stable gaming hell yeah
welp, finally gonna make the switch from kinoite to bazzite
Been Playing Soul Mask, another early access games with no issues on stable and a 9070xt!
Anyone else not getting hardware accelerated video playback in Firefox? It's working in Brave
Might have to wait for flatpak to update
There's a known bug with the display freezing and an open PR in Mesa
I'll try to ship that one sooner than they do
We already ship one for VRAM issues
Ok thanks for the info and all you guys do.
the MESA 25.1 fixes Indiana Jones, will it be soon merge mind if I ask?
I'm still getting weird crashes in Deadlock almost every game now. I swear it wasn't this bad when I was on nobara but I could have just been lucky I guess? What's the beat way to try and log the crash and then have something to investigate? I'm a complete Linux novice.
9070 non-XT is broken on stable, working in testing. Getting crazy graphical artifacts on stable. Is testing on different firmware level? I know they have the same Mesa and kernel at this point
You can check the kernel, mesa and firmware versions here https://github.com/ublue-os/bazzite/releases I've tried almost every one and still seem to be getting issues so maybe it's just a wait and see thing although it would be interesting to compare to what versions nobara are on (and if they're newer perhaps it's just a waiting game until they become available upstream)
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By all accounts stable and testing seem to be the same. I wonder what is causing it
Did you make sure to have your monitors on prefer efficiency rather than colour accuracy?
Didnโt check that, only because itโs on prefer efficiency in testing. Iโll rebase to stable and look
Yep, still on efficiency
However this time things are booting as normal. Perhaps kde decided to default to accuracy for that rebase? No idea
Could have been, that's usually the first hurdle I've seen people have with 9070s so far.
now the wait for LACT support begins. Reports indicate the non-XT overclocks well
Yeah I'm wanting to undervolt mine but hopefully keep the same performance just less power.
Has anyone run into low power draw in their 9070/xt cards? I'm wondering if there is some workaround or if it's safer to wait for linux firmware to update because I'm currently only seeing 100w draw so performance is understandably lower than on windows.
What game?
Everyone seems to be running into that with Monster Hunter
Anyone having issues with Cyberpunk? It will not run for me, it will crash my whole system and just reboot once I get in their launcher and press play.
had the system freeze up when I tried running dota
ultimately powered down the PC
mine has been freezing every time i try to reboot
firefox completely seizes up if I try to navigate anything video/image heavy - youtube sub/home screen
and hardware acceleration isn't working for media in firefox
so things are "working", but also very unstable
also, I can "hear" my GPU - coil whine sounds - as a I navigate anything video/image heavy in ways that I couldn't on say windows if I dual boot into that
launcher option:
--launcher-skip
if that doesnt help then idk as i cannot replicateHonestly that's the only game I've tested so far, but it would probably be good to try out something else to see. I didn't even consider it could be isolated to a specific game because it pulls the full 300w+ in w11.
That could be an issue of being cpu limited? When I set everything on max in 4k in helldivers I get the max usage from my xt
Well it makes sense, its the biggest game release right now. But yes, unfortunately in that game specifically people are reporting the 9070s not utilizing properly on Linux
They are exactly the same
Yeah. I am unsure what was causing it. It's possible that maybe KDE switched my screen back to "prefer accuracy" after rebasing. But after re-rebasing the issues are now gone
Just to confirm
ujust get-logs is for if the game crashes but doesn't crash the system right?
and the ujust logs-last-boot for if it does requre a hard restart?I didn't know 9070 xt wasn't supported yet. Is that the reason why it keeps freezing and crashing on the dashboard? Just installed bazzite on a newly build pc for my living room and can't even get one game to install. Temps look fine
It's in the very early stages of support so it's still buggy, especially in gamemode/big picture.
Oooohhh dammit I was finally excited to sell my ps5 lol
Any ETA? Days, weeks, or months?
I imagine full almost bullet proof support will be a few months, but I also think every week or two we'll get substantial improvements. There's people working on it all the time it just needs to become stable further up the tree where Bazzite pulls from which takes a little while.
I see. So my system freezing and crashing just while downloading a game is completely normal?
I want to make sure it's not a hardware problem
Are you in the gamemode or desktop?
Game mode
It could potentially be just because of how gamemode works. Try do the same in desktop mode if possible?
Ok I will try on desktop mode. Thanks!
Worked like a charm!
Same problem on desktop mode ๐ฎ
Just suddenly freezes with black screen on my tv
this is the common dance with brand new hardware unfortunately - similiar stuff back in 2020 with a brand new 6800xt
See if you can go to display settings and check your tv is set up as prefer efficiency? I know that has been an issue for some people.
takes a couple months for linux support to fully land after launch
I see. I'm just scared it's a problem with my hardware since they are all new parts. I guess the only way to know for sure is to install windows and see if it freezes there?
Other than that I'm not really sure. I've moved over only last week (after using a steam deck docked for about a year) so this is all new to me, just trying to help out with a few common things.
we will ahve some fixes in testing later today
for amd new gpus
If you have windows it might be worth a try since it's always easy to hop back once more improvements come down the pipeline. At least you can have peace of mind then about your hardware.
Are these bazzite fixes or never fw/mesa/kernel?
mesa
Ah sweet, will hop onto testing then once I see its there.
What's the easiest way to update when the possible fixes are released?
If you want to try on testing you can enter
bazzite-rollback-helper rebase testing into console and it'll rebase you to the latest testing branch.Cheers
and then
bazzite-rollback-helper rebase stable if you want to roll back to the latest "stable release"
Just because sometimes theres been a few testing releases a day.You can compare changes here: https://github.com/ublue-os/bazzite/releases
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stable has the same issue
go to march 1st
i think we need fixes at the end of this report
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/issues/12781
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Ive been getting like hard system crashes occasionally when alt tabbing to and from games
On the stable branch specifically
Yesterday night I swapped to the testing branch again and it's been working fine
i think alt tab crash should be fixed for the next testing build, from what i currently see in the mesa-bazzite branch
ah awesome, that's one I kept getting pretty regularly in game.
let me double check, i have been following mesa gitlab and personally waiting for the alt tab fix
actually i dont know the specific commit that fixes that ๐ฆ but i used mesa-git and dont have those issues compare to what's currently in testing.
@Kyle Gospo when do you think we will have a testing build
I'll kick one now
I installed windows to test the new hardware, and have been running occt tests with no problem for over an hour now. So I guess it's the 9070 xt compatibility in brazitte/Linux.
AMD doesn't release stable drivers for linux on launch?
no they dont
welcome to linux
artifact fix is in testing
@Valerie test artifact fix?
I'll get on testing now
What the hell
So the community has to create drivers themselves?!
they release drivers
they arent stable
they were late with mesa 25
and as you saw artifacts
they also were late with the firmware
I see.. that's confusing considering they know valve wants to release SteamOS for all hardware this year..
your card will not work on steamos
just forget it
all hardware:clueless:
Valve hired some developers to work on AMD hardware support in the mesa vulkan driver
now gta v crashes
nice
I doubt SteamOS will work on Nvidia at all at launch, let alone new AMD cards.
and those people are the ones fixing 9070 xt issues last week
did they hire them though?
give me a name
And then Valve moved to 6.11 as their "new" kernel, to make sure they don't get those fixes for another year
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pixelcluster
"Contractor for Valve"
there's another one, one sec
Again though, the patches don't really matter if Valve aren't using them
Like cool that they're doing this. SteamOS still isn't using it, and won't be for a while.
i don't know why people are so intrigued into using SteamOS
they are still using X11 for desktop mode
Because it's a big company
people are literally making comparison as if Bazzite is no good compare to SteamOS
they backport stuff
but contractor employee is not
you dont get the same benefits
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/hakzsam
RADV developer from Valve
When I get a crash,
ujust logs-last-boot is giving me hours of lines. Is there a quick way to swap it to get the last 2 mins?Looks like it's fixed
i did a mesa backport, most of the commits on the steamos side were from him
seems like an early 2024 hire or earlier
Well yeah, because it's an os that doesn't show the ugly side of Linux often, plus they were there before us
So we are left looking like the ones forking of them, at least from an outsider perspective
Test the artifacting guys
Realated to prefer efficiency?
No, wether you get the fuzzies
Do you have a picture?
Still getting some freezes/crashing but less than before. Yay ๐
I just got a system hang on a 9070XT, after which I could only recover by doing a hard shutdown. Could be related to me alt-tabbing away from the game a few seconds prior.
I see a kernel crash with a stack trace in amdgpu in the logs from the previous boot.
Where would be the best place to report it?
ive been having hard crashes and hangs when alt tabbing and I think it happens whenever I have a game running, im screen sharing, and I alt tab into firefox but its so inconsistent its really weird :enaHUH:
Where would I even find logs for these hangs?
journalctl -o short-precise -k -b -1
Where the last number is the boot index. 0 - current boot, -1 - previous, -2 - the one before thatHmm I didnt game much this weekend but no hard crashes for me that ive seen. I do think firefox is using cpu vs videocard still. Maybe try closing firefox while gaming and see if it helps?
Which in my case looks like this
That's a good idea. Another suspicion I have in mind is that these crashes could be tied to me running MangoHUD overlay (a new shiny GPU, need to benchmark that!).
Anecdotally, I haven't seen a crash yet after turning it off, though I haven't gamed much since
Anyone update their system and see whether LACT supports the 9070 series now? I am not at my computer but they updated it on the 16th.
I've noticed that I'm getting better power draw with the recent update to stable, but sill not getting close to the max. I haven't tried out LACT before, but I've seen it refernced when digging up info on previous amd power draw issues. I'm guessing I should install it with rpm-ostree and that it's relatively safe?
ujust install-lactSo power usage is kind of all over the place, I do see it getting into the high 200s and briefly hit 300, the frametime just isn't very smooth. This is on a 9070 xt.
Unless there's been a new release today it's still not working correctly yet.
Just checked. Latest release is the stable one so yeah, no changes yet.
What version number?
41.20250315
v0.7.2 adds RDNA4 support. Which is 3/16. so our build is like a day off
I might try with Firefox closed and see if I get crashes. Most of the time I've got steam, discord and Firefox open on a 2nd screen.
Cool, might be because that version hasn't made its way yet to where the Devs pull everything together so might naturally take a few days from a release to be able to be pulled here.
I have had firefox crash a couple times, but no games so far
huh, lact on my bazzite system, installed via ujust, is reporting 0.7.2 release. so perhaps it's been updated in bazzite?
Iโll update when I get home. Havenโt tried yet
has anyone noticed weird brightness or contrast issues with 9070xt in linux? nothing that makes a game unplayable, but dark areas sure are dark in some games.
Are you in game mode?
yes sir!
Are you plugged into a tv via hdmi using 4k120hz?
yes I am.
Unfortunately HDMI 2.1 featureset does not work in Linux. So when you run 4k120hz it does so in a super limited color space to work in 2.0 bandwidth. Youโll have to go 4k60hz or get a DP to HDMI adapter
Layered packages update independently of the base system.
You turn on hdr and boom, looks like total Garbo
fascinating; contrast/brightness wasn't an issue with my last AMD card 7800xt...
I assumed cause it's early days for 9070xt.
In sdr itโs less noticeable
Nah ironically I found this out on my 7800 XT
Iโm not sure if the color space stuff only gets really whacky sometimes or what. But itโs why things are super dark most likely. Change to 4k60 and see if it looks different
huh, well the different in Ghost of Tsushima 7800XT vs 9070XT is stark. non-HDR is almost 100% dark. HDR has artrifacts in high brightness areas. neither occured on 7800xt. again, I assume there are two issues (HDMI & early days for kernel/mesa support for 9070)
What artifacts?
Outside of this though ghost of Tsushima is probably the best performing game on Linux with 9070s so far. I can get 4k120 dynamic res without frame gen on a non-XT
White skies don't have smooth gradients but banding
aye! the performance is great! ๐
another example game is Euro Truck Simulator / American Truck simulator -- dark areas are DARK, and in-game brightness adjustment does nothing
LACT on my HTPC is 0.5.6... lol
layered packages should update with the rest of my system when using the Update command in desktop mode right?
Yes
Point is their versions aren't tied to Bazzite at all
I guess I'm just not sure how my system has been updated for months now and LACT has stayed at that low of a version
0.5.6 is from September 2024
fyi, lact 0.7.2 does note some bugs:
I've noticed it's a little buggy on the OC pane.
I updated my whole system and LACT has stayed the same. Going to try reinstalling it from scratch
I restarted the game without HDR enabled in game mode, and non-HDR looks fine now. HDR shows the artifacts in sky.
I reinstalled LACT and now it is on the current version. Looks like the 9070 can't be pushed to a higher power limit yet unfortunately
4k60hz?
4k120hz, will try 60hz! had no idea about the HDMI 2.0 limitation.
just to verify thats the issue
same issue with 4k60hz unfortunatly; likely an issue with early support for 7090. I'll wait till more support comes down the line (kernel, mesa 25.1+, etc.)
What kind of tv do you have?
LG CX...
same banding issue in 4k60, 4k120 in Forza Horizon 5 with HDR enabled; this definitely wasn't an issue with my 7800xt -- which I had using for two years with HDR in gamemode no problem
Press the green button on your remote a bunch until you get the pop up that tells you HZ, color space, etc
I have the exact same TV
It'll say "VRR Information"
Thanks. I know this little trickโฆ I will test when Iโm back home with both cards.
Is there a game or two youโve had issues with I can test as well?
Nah, I'm pretty set
had a hard freeze while using blender outta nowhere and lost like an hour of progress ๐ญ
its starting to feel like it just freezes after the system has been running for a while
I think this is about where it crashed?
seems like its gnome crashing
:thonking:
Would DP to HDMI do 4K120hz in HDR? I think Iโm experiencing the same issues with my LG G4
Yeah it works fine on hdr
But also 120hz? Because Iโll just get a different cable then.
Yes. Thatโs what I use
Googled it a bit, thatโs another massive rabbit hole ๐, gonna try the Cable Matters one, Reddit seems to think thatโs the best one.
I recommend this one: https://www.amazon.com/CalDigit-DisplayPort-Adapter-Refresh-Eyefinity/dp/B0BY3SW376/ref=sr_1_3?sr=8-3 it has the highest theoretical bandwidth
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Gotcha, gonna order one and try it out, thanks!
@xxNotorioussss @tacomilkshake https://www.reddit.com/r/Bazzite/comments/1jdeu1l/comment/mifqxa3/ this guy seems to think this method of cable setup gets your HDR and VRR. I'm going to purchase and test it out. He mentions the banding issues too
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Canceling the other one and purchasing this too to test
Damnit they only have 1.8 meter cables
womp womp
Got my tv on the wall, definitely need more than 1.8 m ๐
If the cable works I'll sell you my CalDigit adapter for $20 shipped
To the UK ๐?
Aw heck
It'd probably take a while
Hehe I got the caldigit adapter coming in this Sunday for ยฃ25 so not too bad
It might fit
I'm just mad I've spent $60 on cable stuff now
But having VRR would help a lot with games that can't quite hit 120fps
Yeah exactly! Is it worth it and itโs only gonna be better I reckon with driver updates
Dead Space remake for example, at Native 4k wants to sit around 75-100fps. Modded nier automata at native 4k is like 90-110fps
At the moment I just drop the resolution to 3200x1800 and that solves it
Itโs a shame though, I got a G3 on the wall, would love to use 120 VRR
And not use windows
Beautiful!
Thanks! The inside is less beautiful ๐ฌ
Need to get custom cables, but yeah, bit off topic ๐
"I spoke too soon. Everything was working great yesterday. Couldn't have been happier. Then today arrived. The option to select 120 Hz is no longer available. It's just gone. I am stuck in 4K/60 mode. I tried restarting, unplugging the cable, going into desktop mode, etc.
For the time being I will just stick to 420 mode using my HDMI. I can't really tell a visual difference anyway. DP to HDMI cables are always going to be finicky and I don't have to the patience to deal with something that can randomly just stop working." I don't think I'm going to bother with such a crazy workaround
Oh shit, so the caldigit adapter is still the best bet
Seems like it for now. Perhaps a DP 2.0 to HDMI 2.1 adapter would work better, but I haven't found one that exists
has anyone run into an issue where a game will seem to run fine initially, but the second time you run it, the system seems to freeze from what I'm guessing is the display driver crashing?
CalDigit ACTIVE DP 2.0 to HDMI 2.1 8K Video Adapter
Active DisplayPort 2.0 to HDMI 2.1 Adapter *Currently Apple computers, including Apple Silicon Macs, can only support HDMI 2.0b through their Thunderbolt ports. This will limit possible resolutions up to 4K 60Hz.
Yep, that's the right one. No issues in 2 months of use so far
@malex I assume it doesn't add any (noticable) latency?
None
also you've completely ruined my perception of HDR on my system haha. I figured it was working fine for the past years (just with a little brightness issues that I attributed to Linux).
did you have luck with LACT and your 9070? I haven't tried overclocking yet myself, but was able to boost performance in games that don't use full clocks.
Is anyone having issues with The Last of Us Part I? The game reports just 6GB of VRAM despite RX 9070 XT having 16 GB. Also the game runs slow. I tried the flag SteamDeck=0 %command% but it didn't help.
So far I've not had any crashes with Firefox not open on my 2nd monitor mid game.
What performance are you getting in TLOU?
Very poor, like 10 fps
thats definitely abnormal, i think my performance is on the low end but not like that
Btw, I wrote about a crash when alt-tabbing yesterday. Happy to report I haven't seen it happen anymore without MangoHUD overlay running
The key with amd cards is to undervolt rather than push the core clocks. I undervolted my 9070 by -100mv and now it runs at around 3Ghz, which is 300mhz above its advertised boost clock. Seems stable for now. I canโt push the power limit up yet, probably a vbios limitation of some kind. But if you can, max out the power limit and play with undervolts
oh wait we can do that now?
Yeah LACT got updated with RDNA4 support. I had to reinstall it to get the latest. For some reason my ostree img never updated since September
i just opened it and it showed up! pretty cool
ill tinker with it some tonight
which version?
0.7.2 is what you want
damn im on 7.1
Is there a command to install it?
Are you on bazzite and install Lact with ujust?
If so just update and restart your system
Saying error.
If after that it doesnโt update,
โrpm-ostree resetโ restart and โujust install-lactโ
I'll try a full ujust update
Yeah exactly
However keep in mind rpm-ostree reset will delete any layers you have. In case youโve done anything wacky
Nah dont think so
If you decide to, just check rpm-ostree status and make sure you donโt have other layers
Whats the console command for that?
rpm-ostree status
ujust
woops haha
Iโm on my phone and canโt be bothered to use the code quotes
nah no ujust
;rpm-ostree status`
Yeah just Lact. Did running updates are normal not work?
Restarting just now so I'll see ๐
Ah awesome, we're cooking.
Thanks for the heads up.
Cooler control got a nice update too.
I'm getting like, 70% the performance of people benchmarking TLOU on youtube at 4k Ultra
I don't have an x3d cpu so IDK if that is contributing to the disparity
Definitely a mesa issue. The x3d cpus shouldnโt be giving that much of a gain on a midrange card like this
Gonna try 260w, 2800mhz memory and -90mV and see where it goes.
Definitely not getting your performance with TLOU... I am using a Sapphire Pulse 9070 xt. I hope it's just Mesa and not something else fancy.
Do not mess with the memory. Itโs gddr6 already pushed to its limits
Reporting indicates youโll actually lose performance due to some of its error correcting features
I'm on GE-Proton9-26, I had issues getting the game to open on GE-Proton9-20.
Also I'm on bazzite testing but the mesa version is the same as stable so I don't think that should change anything
I am using Proton Hotfix, I will try GE asap.
@emmenem Any other games?
Currently sekiro will not let me go full screen. It crashes. Thatโs the only issue Iโve had with my card
A part from TLOU and Indiana Jones and the great circle that has graphical glitches (fixed with Mesa 21.1+), the other games I have tested run great (Black Myth Wukong Benchmark, Jedi Survivor, Horizon 2, Zoe 2, Jedi Fallen Order and other 2d games).
are the two things we want/need for better support of 9070 on linux an updated kernel and a more updated Mesa?
and I should ask: anyone else having problems with 9070 waking from sleep? it seems half the time it doesn't wake properly (or at all -- black screen, can't SSH in)
@malex -- this is what I've had from my 7080/9070 since I've had them over HDMI: tv reports 4K/120 + HDR10 with working VRR. in some games, like I said, the colors are a little off or have banding, but several games like RE:4, perform and look great. are you not able to get these enabled over HDMI?
FSR4 is still not supported
Yup, I've seen this happen
@Kipz there was a firefox update/refresh this morning, my tabs stopped crashing after I applied it
Also thanks for the suggestion to try out LACT. I was originally planning to wait until things become more stable in the factory preset before experimenting with OC on top of it.
But your discussion has sparked my curiosity. Just applying -100 mV undervolt with no other changes I see my 9070XT boosing to 3300 and above in CP2077 with Path Tracing! That's way above what I expected!
Not at 120hz. I think it may be possible to get VRR under some circumstances with hdmi 2.0. But you can see that itโs 4:2:0, which is low quality
It might be due to the lg oleds supporting Freesync specifically
got it. but I will say the VRR has been working great from 120fps all the way down to 50fps or so, when the (standard) flickering comes in
and makes sense that 4:2:0 would be the cause of the non-ideal HDR!
In sdr 4:2:0 I think itโs manageable
thx for having a wealth of knowledge on this stuff...
Below 48 fps you're in LFC territory, which support on Linux has always been spotty
How are you able to update LACT? Iโve tried to uninstall and reinstall to update it. Also, just doing a normal install to see if that updates it and it stays at 0.6.0-0
How are you installing it?
I will also say, at the end of the day you could do 1440p120hz at full rgb without much issue on 2.0. And perhaps freesync will work on it
Just opening the terminal and ujust install-lact
That is weird. The layered Lact seems to be inconsistent
I made sure everything is up to date, and Iโve tried probably 3-4 times rebooting and it just stays at this version.
What version of bazzite are you on? The -deck image?
I think something happened to the ostree images around that time, because my 0.5.6 got stuck too. Do `rpm-ostree resetโ, restart, and then โujust install-lactโ
My 9070xt works fine gaming on Bazzite as long as I don't try ray tracing, I tried enabling ray tracing on Spiderman 2 and it just crashes
Stupid mobile
Iโll try resetting it. How do I find the deck image in the terminal? (Sorry, still a little new)
You donโt need to change it. I was just wondering. When you start your computer does it go to a desktop or into steamos game mode
Game mode.
So you have the deck image. That means you have to manually update. Iโd still do an โrpm-ostree resetโ first since I think those images broke somehow.
Rebooting now, but it looks like that worked.
Mine seems to be steady at about 240w power cap, -300mhz and -90mV. Boosting to about 3000 but at about 220w average.
Pretty much same out of the box power but with way less draw.
Worked. Thanks bud!
Anyone else experiencing their 9070xt fans not spinning when using the new version of lact?
Sounds good. I still need to play around with it a bit more
XT?
85% power seems to be the sweet spot for my card. Running around -70mV gets it back to full performance in Superposition
Is LACT persistent on reboots and in gamescope? It says it is persistent across desktop sessions so I assume so?
I'm not sure about gamescope but I can confirm it persists through desktop sessions. I learned that the hard way lol
It is if you've installed via ujust and not crashed
LACT will eventually reset if it crashes too many times in my experience
Right now things are kind of unstable. If the performance works for you then run with it. XTs seem a bit more fickle than non-XTs at the oment. My non-XT will run with whatever I throw at it within reason
But I'm restricted as heck. My power limit is maxed out of what LACT can give it out of the box. On windows you should be able to push it to 270 watts, but I can only give it 245 watts
but I need the 25 watts to cope with the fact that I bought the gimped card. Granted I bought it before all the prices seems to overclock beyond what I can do
Yeah idk what truly stable undervolt will end up being for my card, but I was able to run a cyberpunk benchmark successfully (no RT though yet)
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/undervolted-rx-9070-xt-beats-rtx-5080-rx-9070-and-9070-xt-models-with-heavy-coolers-have-massive-oc-headroom this is what I have worked around. Granted, this is with only manipulating TDP and voltage. RDNA4 will go as hard as it can within the power limit provided it seems
Tom's Hardware
Undervolted RX 9070 XT beats RTX 5080 โ RX 9070 and 9070 XT models ...
Multiple online tests affirm the power of AMD's undervolting curve
No need to mess with the clocks unless you are truly overclocking in order to beat 3DMark scores. In which case, you should be on windows
I love this powercolor reaper, it stays like, 15-20 degrees cooler, doesn't sound like a jet engine, and seems to undervolt better than my xfx 6950 xt did
Also Derbauers undervolt on his XT is so absurd you would almost think that perhaps they sent him a binned card. But I'm just a conspiracy theorist
my Gigabyte 9070 went up like $100 today on Microcenter's website, so I think I made the right call lol
yea AMD paying the stores to get it down to MSRP is a clear sign its not a price that will hold, good value
This card hits hard. I undervolted by 100mV and it's running at 3300mhz and staying below 60c!
What model? msrp?
i think im getting around 2900mhz on my -70mV, does that sound right?
Gigabyte AORUS Radeon RX 9070 XT ELITE 16G -- massive cooler. didn't expect it to be so big.
on an XT?
yeah
Given that you've lowered the power limit yeah
It just depends. I think the best results will come from maxing the power limit and optimizing the undervolt. Just depends on your priority
289W iirc
blows my mind that undervolting a card makes it faster...!
these are clearly so much more power efficient than other stuff. Probably because they don't have any use for higher bins given that they've locked themselves out of the high end
When I say max the power limit, I mean leave it untouched at its maximum and only adjust the udnervolt. Unless you want efficiency. For efficiency you're doing pretty good. I doubt the extra clocks will get much
yeah im going for efficiency right now
i may consider overclocking if it gets me to a threshold like maintaining a certain framerate
You have more units at around the same clocks as my non-XT. Probably 10% better roughly if I had to gues
If we had VRR none of this would matter, but such is life
I need to hit 120, otherwise I'm dropping to 60
no VRR? it works on my AMD cards with Bazzite and my LG CX.
i get around 90FPS 1% lows in cyberpunk at 4k with DF optimized settings so I cap it at 80 fps since i have a 240hz panel
I do not get VRR in order to get a proper color space. We've talked about it a bit I think
ah, I didn't realize that was the trade off. thanks for clarifying.
90 on 120hz should be fine too
The fact is that HDMI 2.1 or a darn displayport on your TV would make it so you could have th best of all worlds
But I think that 2.0 120hz at 420 should be fine with Freesync
Iโm eager to get that adapter in the mail.
Just keep in mind that adapter means you do not get VRR anymore
VRR is nice if latency matters more than image quality
And all of this only matters in HDR. if you are using SDR than 420 is fine
I just wish that Cyberpunk's visuals impressed me enough to use it as a benchmark for performance. Outside of path tracing I don't view it as a showcase
Given that Ass Creed Shadows supports the steam deck on day 1, looks absolutely incredible, and isn't running on Unreal Engine, I think it'll be a good benchmark
(visually)
I only recently got it, literally because I wanted a mainstream benchmark game for the card lol
OK, perhaps I've looked at the same save games of Cyberpunk for the last 5 years that it just doesn't do it for me anymore, lmao
I don't know how youtubers do it
FSR4'd path traced cyberpunk at 30fps is what I want to replay it
Unfortunately a lot of these newer games rely so much on upscaling that we're at a loss until FSR4 works. FF16 is a good example
Yeah
Thatโs about what I get as well on my XT Hellhound. -100 mV 3300 MHz. I had to double check what values are other people reporting online to make sure itโs not a measurement error, because it seemed too good to be true.
@tacomilkshake @xxNotorioussss I booted up Ghost of Tsushima this morning to get a good comparison picture between 8-bit 420 and 10-bit 444 in HDR. Unfortunately my phone camera cannot properly capture it well enough. I will admit that being 10-bit is much more important than 444. The real killer of IQ in HDR is the 8-bit color space. I also tested a solution I saw on reddit to resolve the banding in Game Mode which is to enable developer mode and turn on "Force Composite". It is a night and day difference in Ghost of Tsushima which has crazy banding in the sky. I don't know what game mode is doing but hopefully it gets fixed out of the box soon. I'd be curious to see if this helps the image when at 8-bit 420 HDR too.
The second picture is exactly what I have with Monster Hunter Wilds, you can clearly see the lines
Iโm not home at the moment, but I can do more testing when I get home
I should get the adapter next Monday.
At 8-bit 420 there is some noticeable banding in the sky thats not there at 10-bit. However, with Force Composite on its still far better
My adapters (and the cable) arrive tomorrow... but work... so, will probably be testing this weekend.
Any plans to release the updates from this thread to the testing branch?
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/issues/12781
GitLab
9070XT/GFX12 crashes with starcitizen,indianajones [page fault] (#1...
Description The game crashes after max 7 mins in starcitizen (DX11>dxvk) and instantly in the menu of indianajones (VK native I...
Yes before the mesa went down
Got it. TLOU defaulted to the integrated gpu. Selecting the right card fixed the issue. So far so good.
@Kyle Gospo https://github.com/bazzite-org/mesa fixes from here applied
git format-patch --stdout --zero-commit --no-renames -k mesa-25.0.1 > ../ref/terra/anda/lib/mesa/bazzite.patch heres the commandWhat performance are you seeing in TLOU now?
I don't use MangoHud so I cannot tell the exact fps. 4k ultra settings and the game runs just fine. I can install MangoHud and report back if you are interested.
I would like to know if I'm getting similar performance to you since windows benchmarks appear to be much higher
i have tried my luck using chatgpt to patch the commits from https://github.com/bazzite-org/mesa using your command too, but to no avail. I guess i will wait for the testing-branch with those commits to come out. This has short circuited my brain, i really appreciate what you guys do. Thx for your hard work!
GitHub
GitHub - bazzite-org/mesa: Mesa fork for Bazzite. Includes early fi...
Mesa fork for Bazzite. Includes early fixes and SteamOS goodies. - bazzite-org/mesa
That vibes are off
Buy a scented candle
@Kyle Gospo you want to handle mesa? Fix some crashes for next stable
Probably not corruption
Yeah can do later today or tomorrow
?
No rush from my side
Like add a patch and pr to terra
Yea
I ordered a gigabyte 9070 xt gaming oc from newegg and it was 1099 CAD, 140 dollars over msrp โฆ. But itโs been the only card I have been able to order since launchโฆ. So it is what it is.
I got a powercolor hellhound 9070 xt at launch day for 760 usd
I lucked out
I really wanted to get an msrp one but they immediately sold out online and I DID sell my rtx2080ti to be able to buy a 9070xt so I bit the bullet
seeing what has transpired since... I dont regret it
Whatever new testing branch update came out today it completely fixed the random freezes I've been having these past few days
Thank u bazzite devs <3
Getting this text on Forza horizon 5.
strange! I haven't had any problems FH5 myself...
I'll try a restart see if that fixes it. What version are you on?
According to Mangohud, TLOU is between 45 to 50 FPS, 4K, ultra settings (amd 9700x). I cannot tell Windows performance, since I don't use it.
That matches the performance I saw in the opening cutscene
Actually I think I was around 55 average and it dipped below 50 when looking at the mirror as Sarah, then going up in the 70s when looking away
Restart fixed it
my DisplayPort to HDMI adapters arrived (both the CalDigit & CableMatters), and while the color space was better than 4:2:0 I couldn't get Bazzite to output 4k/120fps on either...
and FreeSync didn't work, but VRR did. dunno if there's a differnce.
VRR definitely doesn't work on the CalDigit adapter and never has. I would double check that your cable is 2.1
interesting. it must have worked with the Cable Matters adapter then. cables are 2.1 certified -- I actually hate them for how thick they are haha. I plan to try the DP to HDMI cable later, but not sure if I need to reflash the firmware on it first.
https://www.phoronix.com/news/Mesa-25.0.2-Released
new mesa with RNDA4 fixes on the way... ๐
Ray tracing support maybe?
think it's just bug fixes, but I could be wrong!
Or I think the problem is Ray tracing partially works atm. Like the cyberpunk benchmark runs for a while then crashes
A lot of these fixes are stuff we already shipped via back porting, but we'll have the complete set available on testing soon
LOVE BAZZITE...!
I can't even get Cyberpunk to run.
Heroic syncs saves, says the game is launching, then just goes back to PLAY GAME without ever launching it.
What version of Mesa is flathub using rn?
Might not be new enough
Oh also I got blender 4.4 half working on my arch distrobox. I can use GPU for cycles in the viewport but not when rendering an image
I had no problem running Steam version of Cyberpunk since the initial support for 9070 xt has been added. Played probably 15+ hours with RT and PT cumulatively
Wait then why am I getting crashing with Ray tracing? Hmmm
Hmm... OK, that's handy to know thanks.
Must be how I've got Heroic set up because I'm using the GOG version. I'm a newb to Linux so I'm reticent to do much troubleshooting because I'll probably break things further.
Rules out it being a problem with Cyberpunk generally.
Which version of Proton are you using? Mine says it's using the latest Proton Hotfix
there is definitely something weird with ray tracing, doom eternal won't display anything when running with RT turned on, someone online said this new mesa solves that issue with eternal
but I also have had no issues running RT in cyberpunk
I'm on the latest ge proton. I could try hot fix and see what happens
And I'm on w/e mesa bazzite testing is on atm
I get crashes on Proton Hotfix as well. KDE reports a pageflip timeout amdgpu error
To introduce a new problem to the list, it appears that the hardware encoder onboardthe 9070 will break after a while. I'm sure it's just a mesa issue but when streaming to my steam deck or ipad it will eventually say the device doesn't support any codecs and refuse to connect me.
a va-api issue*
dolphin emulator is like
straight up not having a good time
can anyone get any game to run at full speed even in native gamecube res?
I tried a couple of games just now and yeah, some of them aren't great
cant even get sunshine to run at 20 fps ๐
Even Animal Crossing has a bit of hitching
And that's the lightest GC game I'm aware of
its literally an n64 port so yeah lol
good to know its not just me then
I haven't used Dolphin on Linux much, but it's listing "llvmpipe" as the adapter. I think when I still had my 2080 it listed the actual card there
yeah I noticed the same
Quick test in Cemu, WWHD is running pretty much the same way
It also identifies the GPU the same way. So something seems off, but I'm nowhere near knowledgable enough to determine what
I opened up Sonic Adventure 2 Dreamcast on RetroArch and got like 3 fps lol
I fired up Ocarina of Time and it worked fine on the title screen at least. So lighter/older emulation still works fine as far as I can tell
That's a pretty high end game
It probably shouldn't be on a 9070 XT
has anyone had their 9070 wake from sleep successfully? mine is always a blank screen, and inability to SSH in to reboot it or check logs. I always have to power off using the button on the PC to recover.
(this is in gamemode)
I'd welcome any tips for capturing logs from this...
Mine does. I think only once it didnโt. However, the Xbox controller do not work after sleep so itโs kinda useless at this stage for me.
Iโve had that problem. And then my 7800 XT system refuses to sleep; it just goes to sleep then immediately wakes back up again
Thanks. Mine is doing this every time -- I haven't had a successful wake from sleep yet. Going to try and capture logs using
journalctl -b -1.On the latest bazzite testing with mesa 25.0.2-2 I was able to run the cyberpunk benchmark with raytracing a couple times with no crashing finally.
My RT performance seems to be a bit lower than Gamer's Nexus benchmarks but my raster is slightly faster than their raster
I will be testing Alan Wake 2 RT shortly
Anyone tried running LLMs? Ramalama seems to recognize the GPU and load the model into vram but times out when I prompt it
from reviewing my logs, I'd guess my sleep issues are caused by my system having both an iGPU, and dedicated GPU (7090 xt)... strangely this never occured with my iGPU + 6800xt system.
๐คจ
Can anyone get gimp working properly?
I'm tryna change brush shape and it just crashes immediately when I select one
Not a flatpak issue cus it's working on my rx6400
:thonking:
nvm its a flatpak issue
its doin it on another computer
Run "flatpak list" and you'll see flatpak is still using Mesa 24. We should wait they upgrade to the latest version (Mesa 25). I have exactly the same problem with Heroic Games Launcher.
Oh no wonder Firefox and vencord are like
Not working right
Oh and emulators
:empty:
This explains a lot
Oh yeah heroic would just straight up not launch cyberpunk for me
I even tried uninstalling and reinstalling it
Colossal waste of time
You could try running
To get mesa-git beta flatpak and use
FLATPAK_GL_DRIVERS=mesa-git flatpak run my.app.name
I was able to get UnleashedRecomp to find the Vulkan backend with that but there was another error that prevented me from running that particular flatpakIs this why nothing I run out of heroic will launch now? Didnโt even consider it
May switch to a distrobox arch version so that itโs using up to date mesa then
Anyone else having problems to get Waydroid working with the 9070?
You have to wait for waydroid itself to update
They have their own copy of Mesa that exists inside of their Android install
Thanks for the info. Hope they will update it soon
9070 users, have you experienced anything like this?
https://discord.com/channels/1072614816579063828/1353390848590479410
I'm pretty sure it's related to the GPU support
I think I can wait but will keep in mind
Alan Wake 2 RT is pretty remakable. In the opening scene I can get 40-60 FPS at 4K FSR Balanced with Medium Preset, Low RT. That is about double what my 7800 XT could do from memory. "Low" RT in AW2 really just means no path tracing
It also appears that GE-Proton has fixed the dependencies you had to dig into protontricks and install before. Plug n play now using Lutris
and that's considering the current state of drivers, I would assume that things should only get better from here
Yeah. But afterwords framerate tanks to around 30 and it has crashed. Hopefully gets better
Switched to the Heroic appimage and that works. It uses the system mesa if I understand that correctly
Yeah it does
Wukong is crashing during gameplay. Like consistently. Iโve tried amdvlk drivers and they seem to fix the crash but the game runs poorly on amd driver. I am on testing branch by the way. And Iโve also encountered a lot of issues with waking from sleep. Latest testing branch seems to have solved any issue related to the wake up, at least with ff7 remake (Iโve also disabled expo and removed all changes I did to the curve optimizer of the cpu). Wukong seems to break wake up though, even with amd drivers. Iโm loving bazziteโฆbut I hope things can get a little bit more stable with my 9070xt cause right now it has been a mess to make things work
Waking up from sleep isn't working for me either, massive graphical issues that only get fixed with a proper reboot. I'm on the latest testing branch with MESA 25.0.2 now and Indy works. I don't have Wukong so can't test that one. Everything for now seems to run nicely except for MHW whioch is still stuck at 100 watt power usage.
I'm on latest testing and still getting crashes. What's weird is that the game crashed and not the whole system, but it basically freezes the monitor that the game was running on. Any ideas?
And then it bounces back to the menu? You can still hear the movement of your mouse/controller in the menu?
usually yes, that's what happens to me also with wukong
sometimes it does a soft reboot to gaming mode , sometimes it freezes on screen but i can hear the menu working behind the frozen screen
I decided to let wukong go for the moment, although that was one of the major reasons i wanted to have a "living room pc", and started playing at FF7 that's working nicely with proton experimental (i had some weird graphical glitches with the latest stable proton) and does work with wake up nicely it seems if you exclude the audio crackling at the beginning of the wake up process
but i think this is still less than stable obviously...there are major problems with mesa drivers and the 9070 series support at the moment...and i think that this is impacting also the sleep/wake up process
this is my issue opened on the mesa gitlab repo btw
GitLab
[gfxhub] page fault - Black Myth: Wukong crashes every time I play ...
Description In 25.0.1 this problem was less obvious. It caused some crashes but they were more sparse. With 25.0.2 this is...
I no longer get this on cyberpunk rt but I do get it on gtav enhanced rt.
It's a very strange freeze. I can actually use my second monitor but I don't think there's a way to fix the freeze besides restarting my PC.
Yeah sounds the same. Ah well, fingers crossed fix comes sooner than later.
I wish I had modern games to test lmao
the most demanding games I have are rdr2 cyberpunk and.... starfield....
Nevermind, it appears those glitches that i thought i solved by switching proton version are in fact a consequence of the waking up process. It did the same just a while ago, had to reboot the pc to make them disappear. Basically it's almost like it's unloading parts of the scenario from the screen...i see all black around the pg ๐
tested AC this week, that runs absolutely fine and looks gorgeous with the 9070XT
are you running a single GPU, or do you also have an iGPU? I'm thinking the combo might be contributing to my issues.
got a 7800X3D but I disabled that one in the bios
i could see it in LACT, after disabling it in the bios it's not seen in LACT anymore
Iโve seen this happen with very heavy RT games, though I havenโt seen it recently in Cyberpunk. It happens very frequently in Portal RTX and Half Life 2 RTX. I have iGPU disabled in BIOS
The RTX mods are free on Steam, so they are easily available benchmarks
Anyone try to use Waydroid? Mine fails to load with a 9070 xt
Best I could find online is it's a driver issue but curious if anyone other than myself is having issues
Itโs been discussed a couple of days ago https://discord.com/channels/1072614816579063828/1347285101872152688/1353390690939179109
It's in deadlock which don't think has rt?
Not at my computer rn, but in my case it was amdgpu pointer related error, not deadlock
Ah thank you, sorry for not searching back
@malex lets see if this works:
A few people on reddit have reported black screens. One had a samsung display that supported up to 144HZ, so he had to enable display safe mode in big picture before changing the resolution and refresh to the proper 4k120hz
I have an LG G3 and so far so good in desktop mode
Yeah LG seems to be perfect
VRR doesnโt work, thatโs correct right? I can see only 60fps in game mode, do I have to change settings in game mode?
Well, you'll want to manuall select the resolution instead of auto detect in game mode. And no, VRR will not work
If that doesnt work, you'll want to verify your cable is an HDMI 2.1 cable
Just tried avowed, 4K with low settings with 120hz in settings applied but still does 60 max. And yeah I specifically got 2.1 cables for my ps5/series x too
I wasn't able to get 4K120fps with that adapter
it just didn't show up in Steam settings
So they are definitely the correct cables
Where are you setting the refresh rate? In display settings of Game Mode?
Display settings on desktop is 120, ingame also 120, but the right menu in game mode only shows 60 max
HTPC or "deck" version of bazzite?
HTPC, AMD, KDE version
OK, so, the "Game Mode" that you boot into outside of your desktop is a different environment from KDE. You need to set the resolution and refresh rate separate from that
You need to, in game mode, go to settings > display > and uncheck automatic resolution setting. From there, select what you need
Gotcha, I missed that completely, let me try that
That did it!
Aw yeah
Unfortunately no VRR
Yeah I know, maybe one day when the hdmi dicks get some sense into them
Also as I stated before, on first boot it will not use the right color space in my experience. You'll need to enter desktop mode and back on fresh boot. You can check your color space by mashing the green button on your LG remote
Good stuff
Nice one thanks! Worth the expensive adaptor haha
Don't forget to enable developer settings and turn on "Force Composite" to get rid of banding in HDR
Yeah I tried that too, makes a massive difference! RGB 12b 4l12 HDR10 is what I need right?
I assume that's close to RGB. My TV only ever outputs 10b RGB
Actually it might say that in HDR too, I'll have to check when I get home
I think avowed just crashed my whole machine on 120hz ๐
9070s be crashin in general. I'd avoid much RT
Oh thatโs fully off
Undervolt?
Yeah, but only a little
dat prolly it
Played hours and hours of Hogwarts on ultra 4K
Hard to say right now with how unstable it is on linux
Yeah but at 60 right? Your gpu probably wasn't pushed that hard
Avowed put on low and rt off just to test 120fps
Very true! Should do more testing indeed
Hmm no it wasnโt undervolted
Probably just standard instability then
Or hell the game just crashed. Does happen
I mean it is Xbox ๐ฅฒ
jeez the color banding in all Playstation ports is very bad...i'm going to try this as soon as i can
Yeah, here is my example in Ghost of Tsushima. World of difference https://discord.com/channels/1072614816579063828/1347285101872152688/1351835183887814686
Itโs such a massive change that one setting, you could count the rings around the moon in Ghost of Tsushima
nice
It's partially because Playstation titles likely have high quality HDR implementations which make the banding more noticeable. Most games have cruddy HDR
Exactly that screen shot I meant
cause you didn't see clouds in death stranding
And now itโs running fine ๐
clouds were so bad that i felt eyes fatigue at some point
for me, in the display settings of game mode. 4k120 isn't there, but 4k60 is. with raw HDMI cable, I see 4k120.
Strange. Do you have another cable to try just in case? it giving you 120hz on a 2.0 output means nothing, because its still the 18gbyte bandwidth
aye, I can, it's just my TV is on the wall with a narrow wall mount that makes changing HDMI cable absolutely terrible...
I've been also meaning to try the DP to HDMI cable I got...
Also depending on the TV I suppose a PORT might only be 2.0
LG CX, port 4
All CX ports are 2.1
Love my LG TV...
Yeah I have a CX too, I don't think I've owned a single TV this long
haha same. especially with newer versions adding little!
I'd like the higher peak brightness really
I want them (or anyone) to fix VRR/freesync flickering in dark/grey scenes -- not sure if it's possible or not though
From what I understand it's just an inherent weakness of OLED panels atm
HDMI 2.1 drivers on Linux, thatโs what we need ๐ฅฒ
I used to get flickering on my IPS LCD LG display so it's definitely not only an OLED issue
I think VRR can cause flickers in general
I do get it from time to time on my OLED but far more than on the LCD tho
No, it's not only OLED, but OLEDs tend to suffer from it pretty consistently from what I understand
It's just more noticeable on OLED probably
Could be that, yeah
Mainly bc pixel brightness = panel brightness
Can i force my cx to do 1440p? Lol
In an LCD the backlight is always consistent
It should work if you manually set it in Game Mode settings
Is that only on the 42in model?
No, like, I mean in Bazzite
The CX should support 1440p output if you select it on any given device
For some reason I canโt select 1440p120, only 60, all other resolutions are fine
Weird. Probably a steam os issue
ironically 1440p120 would be the resolution you would only need 2.0 for
Yeah strange
Gotcha. Yeah when i swap to 1440p on windows my lg still shows 4k. Iโll give a go in bazzite
I think I got a small performance boost in GTAV RT but it still crashes on latest bazzite testing
Hey guys. How's 9070 xt compatibility atm?
Tried it last week and it kept freezing amd crashing
Raytracing unstable and I'm unable to use a lot of gpu accelerated programs with it like davinci resolve, real video enhancer, blender (can't render to file)
I see. I guess I will try it again in a month or two
Its good enough for me although I am getting a bit antsy not being able to use some of this stuff. gaming without rt works fine and general web browsing is fine of course
Damn even with the flatpak version of prism launcher using mesa 24, the 9070xt is just casually dropping over 1000 frames at only 50w of power not even using 20% of the gpu
Actually insane
yeah minecraft is crazy cpu limited
try some RT shaders ๐
I see a new stable update with Mesa 25.0.2. Nice!
What's the downside to having firefox via rpm-ostree apart from slower updates? I just installed it in order to have a non crashing with functioning hw acceleration.
Wukong still crashing with new testing release
I saw it dropped with a new mesa version but nothing concerning the page fault I guess
I wanted to link a mesa issue I came across in case it would help, but then I noticed the reporter's name ๐คฆโโ๏ธ
it was mine?
๐
Yep ๐
One issue Iโve noticed happen occasionally is that sunshine will break and moonlight will tell me the host device doesnโt support any encoders. Only fix is restarting / entering desktop mode. Will suck when this happens while Iโm away from home
Hmm I cant seem to get sunshine to work
odd just running "sunshine" got it to start up successfully... i dont get it
does bazzite auto update? my pc had been working fine ish these past few days but its back to freezing every now n then
Yes, you can also run "ujust update" in a terminal window to update and then reboot.
You have to reboot after update to run the latest
well the problem is that it updated and now it broke stuff
๐ซ
You can switch to previous builds too
Do you remember which one worked best for you?
nope
im in the testing branch so,,
Ah darn you'll just have to try different previous test builds
"ujust setup-sunshine only enables the systemd service that allows it to run in the background. It appears you just disabled it and then checked its status. I would run "ujust setup-sunshine" again
After restart, probably
No luck after reboot,
The website console isnt active either. If i try to start via app from the start menu it shows a loading icon but then nothing happens. If I run "sunshine" from command line console starts up. If I right click on the start menu and say run in terminal it opens a terminal and runs, and console starts up. I dont get it
May need to rebase? Sunshine was already enabled by the time I installed my card so idk if starting it is broken. But I don't see how the gpu would break Sunshine service
Yea ok odd ill wait for next version of stable
kinda figured maybe that was it
I think it' ll work running manually
The config for video was a bit confusing too, it says to specifically look for display ID under troubleshooting, but i dont see the exact line. Did you have to manually configure in the web console for display capture device and monitor?
No, but I only have one screen connected to my HTPC
It says to look for something like "Info: Detected display: DP-1 (id: 3) connected: false" under troubleshooting tags in the logs but I dont see any line with "detected" I can see the name of the one I want to use "DP-3" but I dont see "id" mentioned anywhere.
[2025-03-27 08:28:07.778]: Info: Name: DP-3
[2025-03-27 08:28:07.778]: Info: Found monitor: Samsung Electric Company Odyssey G95SD
I can probably trial and error that though
Will give it a shot this evening
oh any idea if its better to have integrated videocard capture or 9070xt. I kind of assume the 9070xt but its also rendering the game on the system... so maybe integrated? Again something i can play with.
Depending on your CPU the 9070 likely has a better video encoder
9800x3d
I believe they have rdna2 integrated graphics. Donโt know if a hardware encoder is included. Even if it does, it does not support AV1 and the 264/265 encoders before rdna3 are low quality
this thread i huuuge.. what is the state of this? is it possible to create a sticky post about it somwhere? maybe a page on the bazzite docs website?
Still quite unstable doing anything but non-ray tracing gaming
this is our home now... ๐ -- we have no where else to talk about 9070 cards on this discord
so i should hold off buying a little more then?
no real rush thankfully
If you do other GPU accelerated tasks you may be disappointed currently. I do but I'm okay with testing and waiting for full functionality
only gaming for me
(also unleashed recomp just doesn't play because the mesa flatpak doesn't work yet)
i got a rog ally x, and the plan is to do egpu
I'm using my 7090xt pretty successfully for gaming with egpu... as noted some occassional freezes, RT is difficult, etc.
Retroarch seems to not recognize the card or something. Plays at really low fps
ok thanks saves me some time!
If it's the flatpak, it's because freedesktop needs to update Mesa as well
i was running 7700XT as eGPU. the experience is ok, but not great. Bazzite won't recognize external monitors in gaming mode with the eGPU for some reason, so the eGPU works best in Bazzite desktop mode, kind of defeating the purpose. The performance gain is good in some games, but rapidly drops off due to combo of CPU bottleneck and bandwith cutoff due to limitations of Thunderbolt connection. I wouldn't bother running high end GPUs as your eGPU, your performance will get bottlenecked while most of the GPU's frames will be sitting idle while the CPU tries to catch up. depends on the game ofc.
I am getting this error fairly frequently playing throne and liberty -
Likely has to do with Ray tracing
Google keeps giving me mixed results on whether the game has ray tracing or not
naturally there isn't an obvious "turn off ray tracing"
I turned lighting down to medium ๐คท
Well that was good for a while...
Is there a good way to recover other than holding down the power button on this PC?
I haven't found one. It feels like it could be recoverable though since stuff still happens in the background after it freezes
Yes the mocking on discord before I restart is great
Turned everything to low and I didn't crash for a long time, although I was getting hitching near the end - not sure if these are related
There's a fix for RTX remix crashes I've been complaining about, but it's not been merged yet. Good to see the fixes coming in fast.
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/34178
GitLab
radv/rt,vulkan/bvh: Fix more cache coherence issues for GFX12 (!341...
First commit is similar to a1b05991...
I tried this and it isnt working ๐ญ
just gives me this
I was testing with firefox but other apps are giving me the same errors
Yeah it seems to not work too well
remove the flatpak and its service, thats your issue from the looks of it
Hmm I thought I had but I'll try harder with that thanks
The service said it was trying to run flatpak sunshine
At least in that image
Hmm it looks like I removed the flatpak as I thought, sunshine doesnt show up in the "flatpak list" command. I will rebase a bit later this morning and maybe that will get everything pointing to where it should.
When I removed the flatpak I just right clicked on the application (saw 2 sunshines listed) and selected uninstall. It removed one instance, and the other would not uninstall. I assume thats the one included in the base bazzite image.
ok new strat reinstalling sunshine flatpak and uninstall using command line vs GUI
Ok got it thanks @HikariKnight had to remove the service that the enable command was symlinking too, when i did that it generated one without the faltpak sunshine data still present
is there no hardware encoding for amd on linux? I installed the obs rpm with rpm-ostree command cus the flatpack was basically unusable but in the encoder only software (openH264) is listed even tho it should have acces to system mesa an whatnot right?
might this be an obs issue or is it that there's no encoder yet for the 9070 series?
oh if you go on advanced settings and set the encoder to ffmpeg vaapi it lets you select the gpu
neat
I should probably retry this on the flatpak but considering the preview on the canvas was showing fine on rpm versiona dn on the flatpak it was all screen teary and laggy I dont have high hopes
will report back in a bit
Still getting the weird game freeze, but it's just the monitor and the game is still running fine. Like I can tab out and see it running in the tab menu, it's just the screen that's frozen.
So like the preview tab for the game screen shows but the actual full screen game does not?
Has anyone been able to use any video editor? I'm trying to use shotcut but it crashes when I try to import a video
Works for me with some old mp4s from heroes of the storm
On today's stable release
Davinci resolve does not work for me yet. All videos are black and don't actually play
Just an FYI but I updated to firefox 137 via Discover just now and it looks like they added compatible mesa drivers for my 9070xt. CPU isnt going way up whebn I watch youtube and the option to force hardware acceleration showed up for me
hoping it cuts down on freezing issues too, will have to see how it goes
if it doesn't just install the rpm one. That's been working perfectly for me
can you go to this site? https://webglsamples.org/aquarium/aquarium.html
it should look like a 3d fishtank full of fish
if the hardware accel is actually working
Yup, they show up
YEAAAAH
hype
slowly but surely things are improving ๐
So guys whats your experience with 9000 series on bazzite? Any crashes or strange performance compared to 6000/7000 series gpus?
Performance is better than it was last month. Still some instability
What type of instability and do i need update anythinv manually for it to work?
At this point no. Some people are reporting crashes especially during ray tracing. I've noticed the encoder breaks randomly and I have to restart to continue streaming via Sunshine
And how about screen recorder? Works fine or also issues? For me it was working perfectly fine with av1. Just sometimes some strange sound issues in certain games
I'm not sure. I assume recording is probably fine
The issue is likely sunshine and not the card
What kernel version currently we have?
I am at work. Cant check it out
6.13.7-108.bazzite
Pretty good, sunshine working well for me, firefox just updated from discover with mesa drivers so thats rendering off my 9070xt now. No issues with games I've been playing poe2/soulmask/elden ring. My only issues now are around my main monitor, but its 5120x1440 at 240 hz running over a 10ft display port cable into a 4 machine kvm. It displays fine, but fastfetch wont detect it at 240hz refresh (does at 120hz).
I've had no issues with GPU screen recorder using av1
as far as steam games go I havent really had many issues, but ive had many system freezes and hangs especially when screen sharing on discord, worth mentioning I use a 3rd party client called vesktop, screen sharing from web discord on firefox has been p flawless, and aside from that it's been mostly fine
emulators didnt seem to work at all a bit ago but I heard flatpak mesa got updated? I havent tried emulation yet
I had issues pre 9070xt with discord app, all solved by using it in firefox, discord clearly doesn't prioritize the linux app.
Vesktop was fine for me on my 2080ti tho
I am still getting freezes in firefox sporadically on new build. But it is working better, freezes seem to unfreeze vs me having to close and reopen to resolve.
Sometimes my whole DE will lock up and and I can only really restart the system
But that's been happening less and less
Bummer, I havent had to restart, occasional freeze, but i think it has more to do with firefox than the desktop
As far as I can tell it hasn't hit stable yet, Dolphin still struggling hard on my PC
mine is 6.12.12-207. how to update kernel on bazzite
just run a system update. simplest way is to run "system update" from the application launcher
If you prefer, run
ujust update in the terminalit will have to download entire ISO basically?
That's normal yeah
Once it has finished, reboot and you should be good to go
we still dont have mesa 25.1 right?
latest stable is on 25.0.2-4
Something similar happens to me too
so color support still off it seems
Yea same happens to me
so yeah. my monitor occasionally freezes for no reason. definitelly not stable still on bazzite
Most of my crashes happen if I alt+tab while gaming and I do that a lot, some games like Riftbreaker have been rock solid (except when I turned on ray tracing, instacrash), atleast once my primary screen froze when playing overwatch, but the game kept running, I could hear and even see the game running on my other screen when i tried alt+tabbing and it showed previews on my second screen of all the stuff running. But my primary screen was.... stuck?
Yeah Im still getting freezes where the screen is frozen, but the game is still running in the background. Like when you alt tab to see the carousel of running windows, you can see the game still running. Really weird tbh but for the most part it only happens once every few games. Still frustrating though.
I think 25.0.3 is in testing now, gonna try it out later today
For alt-tabbing freezes, try running the game in borderless instead of fullscreen.
game is borderless
I see, then it might be that the problem is game specific to a greater degree than I thought
For that reason for couple months i am installing win10. I want also to check encoder/fsr4 performance. Amd then switch back to compare with linux
25.0.3 got released yesterday but isn't in any Bazzite test branch yet by the looks of it.
saw this in the main channel, must be a mistake then
You can look at the releases on GitHub and see what the latest stable and testing branches have
https://github.com/ublue-os/bazzite/releases
guys working on the mesa driver asked me to test another mesa branch...but i don't know how to do it :/
When will the new test release be available with mesa 25.0.3?
in my case all the games i'm playing have problems except one (Solasta). All the other games freezes after few seconds (Wukong) or when resuming from sleep (Death Stranding, FF7, Red Dead 2, The Witcher 3)
Your system is waking up from sleep?
Damn
I actually haven't tried sleep with my new card. My PC used to just instantly wake up whenever I tried to use sleep so I'm used to not using it
https://github.com/ublue-os/bazzite/releases/tag/testing-41.20250401
Says it's on testing since yesterday
GitHub
Release testing-41.20250401: Testing (F41.20250401, #95aa74d) ยท ub...
This is an automatically generated changelog for release testing-41.20250401.
From previous testing version testing-41.20250330.2 there have been the following changes. One package per new version ...
I haven't rebooted into it yet though
JeezโฆI was even looking at the page. :coolfingergunscry:
Thanks
Yeah same, the order in terms of date released is all messed up. Used to be latest first regardless of stable or testing.
yeah, my 9070xt system never wakes from sleep... went through this for like a year with my 7800 card early on, and it was eventually fixed to be like 80% reliable at waking.
mine reliably wakes from sleep but had to disable EXPO, remove any kind of undervolting done to the cpu, disable IOMMU on the mobo. My pc always wakes from sleep...the problem is that game are all frozen after a resume or there are a lot of graphical glitches that do not go away without a reboot
testing is on .3 yeah: OpenGL version string: 4.6 (Compatibility Profile) Mesa 25.0.3
anyway, i've just ran a test on 25.0.3...wukong still crashes after a few seconds
anyone willing to help on how to use mesa-git on a custom branch with bazzite?
those are some crazy sacrifices just to be able to wake from sleep
I turned off sleep recently bc I also have my games stop working after I have woken from sleep. Like Helldivers 2 will open but to just a black screen. Works fine after reboot or just preventing sleep. Maybe I'll test later on the new mesa in testing.
worked for me earlier, but only a 1/1 situation so far, so not sure if it's reliable now
Yesโฆbut I basically use sleep as a second skin now. Well not on my pc at least :coolfingergunscry:
I just leave it on when Im at home with like screens turning off but the computer doesn't actually go to sleep
I miss screensavers
Having the screen turn off to avoid burn in on my OLED is SO lame
Mine is hooked to an lg tv so I know the pain. But I prefer having it โoffโ rather than on idle as I already have more than enough tech always on
I'm wondering if anyone else is experiencing the gpu usage jumping to 100% constantly in lact and if anyone else is having their fans not spin up when they're at 50-60c
50-60 is freezing cold, fans not spinning up might be absolutely normal
100% might also be normal depending on clock
100% of the 2d clock speeds is nothing
Okay good to know, just surprising that it lets the vram get so hot before the fan kicks in. I currenly have the same -500mhz -50mv undervolt that I was using in windows 11 when I was trying to resolve the black screen and crashing errors I was having there
The vram is pretty hot (75ยฐC) on idle/low usage on my saphire pulse xt compared to the 5700xt it replaced yeah, but never seen it go over 95ยฐ on full load, so I'm not at all worried
Which logs should I check if I've experienced a lock up and crash, I was hoping I wouldn't be getting these on linux, but here we are
ujust logs-last-bootor sudo journalctl --no-hostname -b -1 (same thing) will get the logs from last boot. I like to add -r to reverse the output so the latest logs before computer shutdown comes up first
You maye see 'kwin_wayland_drm: Pageflip timed out! This is a bug in the amdgpu kernel driver' in the logs, that is pretty typical of 9070 XT crashesI mean for the most part on most hardware I generally dont run into anything like that even on my old rtx 2080ti
we just have to be patient and wait for drivers and bugs for this new gpu to get fixed
Hmm I seem to be able to select 9070xt GPU in OBS for video encoder software is only option.
switch to advanced settings and try selecting ffmpeg based encoding
Thanks, been poking around in there but I still dont see VAAPI deice as an option
just "Device 13c0"
prob a flatpak issue which I said I would test but never did
on the RPM version it shows up tho
since it uses system MESA
hmm ok thanks
Hey guys, hows 9070xt support lately? (Just for gaming in gaming mode)
Generally fine, RT can cause crashing though
i am yearning for more non-gaming support (and i guess id like to enjoy a little ray tracing)
Once the freedesktop Mesa updates to 25 that will go a long way for the average user in non-gaming stuff
i've been trying to use mesa-git flatpak for things each time it updates but havent had any luck getting it to work
Any idea why LACT is bringing up this error after updating from 0.7.2?
Rebooted, entered every command as always
Maybe Iโm misunderstanding, but this seems very clear to me
after updating If you have updated LACT
I entered the command already 5 times and rebooted
damn
Just a guess but I might have run into something similar when I installed sunshine from the bazzite install but then also installed sunshine from the Flatpak
https://github.com/ilya-zlobintsev/LACT/issues/447
seems like old bug resurfaced
GitHub
[COPR] VERGEN_IDEMPOTENT_OUTPUT shown for lact commit id ยท Issue #...
Checklist The problem is not listed in the hardware support matrix as a known limitation. Examples of known driver-side issues are fans not turning on with a custom curve or inaccurate power limits...
Thanks I will take a look into it
@Gameborn might want to check
also apparently the older version are both using the placeholder ๐
yeah the copr builds don't have a proper commit hash set, that should be the case equally for gui and daemon though since they literally take it from the same place at build time
are you sure you don't have lact installed from two separate sources at once? like rpm package and flatpak
Mesa flatpak updated! I just tried Minecraft Bedrock Launcher and Sonic Unleashed flatpaks and they both work with the new Mesa!
REAL-Video-Enhancer NCNN backend works too now
Retroarch still having issues
I'm seeing some performance issues on Unleashed Recompiled. The frametimes go crazy when I use MSAA at 4k or go above 4k resolution rendering. GPU usage fluctuates from 89-95% and doesn't max out
Yeah that was the problem. I had 2 different packages installed. Inunstalled via ujust and now the flatpack from github is working.
Dolphin and Cemu flatpaks are also not working correctly
They still report the graphics device as "llvmpipe" instead of 9070 XT
you likely need mesa-git in flatpak if the runtime has a mesa version without rdna4 support by default
llvmpipe is cpu rendering
So for the average plug'n'play user, still waiting for stuff to update then
yeah
it's fairly easy to install though https://gitlab.com/freedesktop-sdk/freedesktop-sdk/-/wikis/Mesa-git
So once the non-beta updates, you just no longer launch apps with that command? And just remove that flatpak remote when you no longer need it
yes
Ok so noob question, if I update mesa flatpak will that get obs flatpak the right mesa version. Or I am I waiting for them to update the mesa obs flatpak specifically?
oh wait it auto updated for me
sweet i can just try it
huzzah it works! no crazy CPU usage, and I can target my GPU (or well at least what it thinks is GPU).
Still doesnt list it as 9070xt, but at least its an option!
VideoCardz.com
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Some progress in happening in the FSR4 support issue:
https://github.com/HansKristian-Work/vkd3d-proton/issues/2398
GitHub
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Please describe your issue as accurately as possible. Include screenshots or videos if relevant Using Optiscaler you can get fsr4 on many titles on windows, on linux it works for 3.1 but when i try...
For those of you that are experiencing crashes, freeze, pc hangin in sleep mode while a game is runningโฆtry applying RADV_DEBUG=nodcc,nohiz to the steam launch options
thanks. Trying it. The launch option chains are getting a bit ludicrous now lol:
RADV_DEBUG=nodcc,nohiz obs-gamecapture gamescope -f --hdr-enabled -h 2160 --adaptive-sync -- mangohud %command%You can use scopebuddy to shorten up the Gamescope part and make it easier
Yeah, I've been ogling that for a bit, but will probably do that after I sort out my messy partitioning by just wiping everything and starting fresh
Also if you're using Gamescope you're supposed to call mangoapp within the Gamescope session instead of separately, fyi
Oh, didn't know that.
Just use the
--mangoapp flag like your HDR and VRR flags in the gamescope argsI was wondering where that space between the -- and gamescope came from. I manage my launch options like I manage my partitions :/
it worked though
It does work, but the Mangohud docs say to use it by calling mangoapp
This trying the new linux for gamers hype thing, expecting it to suck is getting out of hand ๐
Same.....
OH?
Aw I kept reading
I really wanna start my yearly sunshine playthrough soon
:pensivewobble:
I will be flashing my Gigabyte 9070 with a Gigabyte 9070 XT vbios today. I will inform if my house burns down
Nice good luck!
absolutely good luck
have you done any more testing with obs flatpak? how is it?
It's working for me just fine, anything in particular you want tested?
Seems fine to me, but I don't have much of a use case. Everything worked well streaming to twitch performance wise. I want to try YouTube I hear it has better upload caps.
My only complaint is I can't figure out how to close it via command line cleanly. From reading it sounds like an obs issue.
BrowserSource tbh
I'm using the rpm version but the fedora build version completely lacks any kind of browser integration
Unsure as to why
I use an Android based IP Webcam app to stream a camera feed to my OBS so not only is the stream web based but the controls for it are too
Being able to use browser windows in obs has become quite important to me lately
I threw in a browser source with jchat and it works fine
Dope
I think Ill be switching back then
Thanks!
Was testing some obs stuff and my monitors went black for a few secs then came back like this
My pc fucking GREEN screened ๐ญ
Completely unresponsive
updated and it did it again
might it be because Im using obs through xwayland instead of the wayland version
?
nope
even on wayland it still crashes after a while
I think its happening because im screen sharing on discord while also using obs
any commands I can use to get logs on whatever the hell is happening here?
yea ive been streaming just on discord with no issues I think obs just hates me
https://discord.com/channels/1072614816579063828/1347285101872152688/1357556077897715844
Probably ujust logs-this-boot in your case
So
sudo journalctl --no-hostname -b -r and see what it says around the time the crash occuredgonna have to provoke another crash cus I dont remember when exactly it was
I ran this but I can't find anything that seems like a crash around the time it happens
I don't even see the time where it happened at all it jumped from 9:26:43 to 13:26:44 and it happened around 13:25
:enaHUH:
ok so I ran
sudo journalctl --no-hostname -b -1 -r and found this
definitely obs related but I feel like there's stuff missing from this dumpI got a crash after watching a youtube video in fullscreen lol, and another time while having terminal full screen over top of tekken 8
RTX Remix games no longer crash for me on the latest stable with mesa 25.0.3. ๐
Couldn't make it past the intro screen in Portal before
I can get a 60 fps lock at 1080p Low + TAAU Performance
Definitely need to check Optiscaler once they have FSR 4 support
I was able to play GTA V with RT for a while with no crashes
Performance seems to be a bit lower compared to Windows benchmarks on YT for me
anyone had any luck launching stuff from heroic launcher yet?
Tons of people here use Heroic
Any issues you'll want to contact them on their discord they have a full support system
But without a doubt it works fine, turn key install
Make sure you're up to date so you have the latest mesa
it stopped working for me when I switched from nvidia to the 9070xt but admittedly I have not tried it since
I should probably try it again lol
The flatpak has updated to the right mesa, so it should work now. Still sticking with the appimage myself though.
ic
welp time to download cyberpunk again ๐ซ
More progress here, looks like someone was able to use Optiscaler to inject it into Cyberpunk
Firefox is back to freezing my whole desktop again
:clueless:
At least I think
I gave up on Firefox years ago. Using Brave on all my devices and pretty much happy with it.
Cool :verygood:
I don't like the brave logo so I will never use it
Would rather just use ungoogled chromium if I switch back to chromium
But that's not a thing I want to do
Brave is shady at best if you ask me but frankly that's off topic from this thread so Ill refrain from further commenting on the topic
Not liking the logo is a strange reason to not use something
LOL
I just say that cus its funny I genuinely, viscerally, do dislike the logo but my main reasons to keep away from brave is just all the shady shit theyve done in the past. Affiliate link hijacking, the ad injection (which they do sell anonymized data from), the weird crypto currency they have and almost completely control by themselves, the donation soliciting for creators that didnt sign up for the brave donations program, the tor window leaking DNS queries
and there's many more
for a "privacy" product brave sure has done a LOT of controversial things
so I just steer clear from it
mozilla is a sinking ship as well but there's still alternatives with the same engine like librewolf and floorp and zen
Go ahead and update, Mesa 25 is here for flatpaks. Getting fullspeed emu in Dolphin and Cemu now since it recognizes the GPU
Time to polish up my game library and install emudeck ๐
YEEEAAAHHHHHHHHHH
does flatpak being updated to mesa 25 help with apps that use their own version? or do all apps just use the base flatpak mesa?
I would assume the latter. If apps can bundle their own I'd think that would take precedent. I'm still fairly new to Linux though
I tested Dolphin and Cemu myself quick, so I know those are fine
yeah they work for me fine now, I mostly ask because OBS seems to have its own version and I keep getting a hard crash with a green screen after having it run for a while
I'd just revert to the RPM version but that one doesnt have browser source for whatever reason
idk how to make an rpm program run through xwayland either which is needed to get docked browser windows on the UI
:pensivewobble:
I am pretty sure they use their own runtimes, flatpak Handbrake for example uses the Gnome 47 runtime whatever is packaged in that. And it can't see the 9070 xt encoder yet. Also forced it to use the Gnome 48 runtime and that also didn't get it going. So some apps still won't work till other runtimes also update. Hopefully it won't be too long.
if you
it should spit out the runtime that runs with your flatpak app.
handbrake doesnt support vaapi, the flatpak wont even recognize older amd gpu
:wah:
guess i gotta learn ffmpeg
At least some don't use their own runtimes; Dolphin hasn't updated at all this month, but installing the freedesktop runtime update yesterday allowed it to recognize the GPU
Videomass seems like an interesting project. It has no vaapi presets ootb, but making one seems quite doable.
yeah can confirm this
anyone else playing The Last of Us II Remasted on 9070? it's working well, except FS3 powered frame gen isn't working right; everything becomes blurry on any motion.
I'll take a peek, thanks for the rec.
Retroarch is working for me now.
Is anyone playing Indiana Jones and The great circle? Do you know if AMDVLK is still necessary to run the game? Also if I enable ray/path tracing, the game hangs and the system reboots (using the latest bazzite version and AMDVLK drivers).
So I had thought sleep was working okay on my system... Yesterday I brought it out of sleep and fired up a game and was greeted with a flashing light show. Rebooting fixed it, but seems like sleep is still causing issues
amdvlk is not necessary
Can you check if you have
amdgpu: ring gfx_0.0.0 timeoutin the logs? I had a similar problem with this error.
There is a mesa issue for it, and it even has a fix, but it hasn't been merged yet: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/issues/12962GitLab
ring gfx_0.0.0 timeout after waking from sleep - RX 9070 (#12962) ...
Brief summary of the problem: Launching Star Citizen with DX11 after waking system from sleep causes graphical glitches and system stuttering....
i do
indeed that sounds like a fix for the Z13
So the problem not limited to 9070?
my Z13 crashes after a few sleeps in KDE
i swear to god those amd kernel and mesa devs
can they get through one release with their core devices working properly?
Actually Indiana Jones doesn't properly run in gamemode (the screen is all dotted). It does play fine in desktop. To run in gamemode it needs amdvlk.
How can we switch between amdvlk and mesa in a convenient way?
Does Waydroid use Mesa 25? After swapping to 9070xt, it launches but never fully loads.
Edit: I also have an issue where games I play on Lutris run fine, but whatever monitor they're running on seems to stop working and freeze forever until restart. Is there a known fix for this yet?
it does not, waydroid has it's own mesa
have to wait for them to update
Thank you, I didn't know for sure. Regarding the freezing on Lutris games, using
sudo journalctl --no-hostname -b -r i get
Apr 13 23:58:46 kwin_wayland[2242]: kwin_scene_opengl: 0x3: GL_INVALID_OPERATION in glDrawBuffers(unsupported buffer GL_BACK_LEFT)
Apr 13 23:58:46 env[5239]: 0248:trace:fps:X11DRV_vkQueuePresentKHR 0x7d9a93a0 @ approx 7.42fps, total 60.12fps
ESCOD
Apr 13 23:59:19 kwin_wayland[2242]: kwin_wayland_drm: With the output of 'sudo dmesg' and 'journalctl --user-unit plasma-kwin_wayla>
Apr 13 23:59:19 kwin_wayland[2242]: kwin_wayland_drm: Please report this at https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/-/issues
Apr 13 23:59:19 kwin_wayland[2242]: kwin_wayland_drm: Pageflip timed out! This is a bug in the amdgpu kernel driverIs anyone else running into issues where under certain loads the clock speed of their 9070 xt will jump above the specs and cause issues. I've been basically relying on the offset options in LACT I just want to make sure this isn't a hardware issue I should be worried about. Thanks.
Above specs meaning?
Core clock sorry, it will boost to like 3400 and lock up my machine. Seems to be fine with the offset though.
it's fine to go over stock clocks, they're designed to do it
crashing while doing it is not fine, that's a sign of a bad card
would test in windows and seek an RMA if it still happens
the clock going up is a firmware feature
I had quite some de freezes before the testing update with mesa 25.0.3 too. It's been pretty smooth sailing for the last 2 weeks or so though. I could still interact with the pc through ssh and all background tasks would still be running, just completely frozen screen.
Do you know if it was related to the clock speed? It seems like it only really happened when a game launches without the offset so it's usually pretty obvious.
I never messed with the clockspeed, only volt offset, but overdoing undervolting has reproducable erorrs, the one I had with the freezing was seemingly random, but most often during raytraced games. If you have windows, trying it on there to see if you get issues there too is the best advice as we're pretty much beta testing right now on linux and won't get support from amd
From what I remember it was an issue in windows as well. Along with some other people I was seeing the max clock speed set to 3450 when opening hwinfo and it seems like it will drop to the proper max depending on what process is running which is really strange. This was with windows 11, not sure if it would be any better on windows 10.
Boosting to a really high boost clockspeed should not give issues really as long as you stay within the power window. I've not had any issues myself on windows 10 with either stock settings or slight undervolt, but I've only ran cyberpunk for about 45mins to see the fps difference with ray tracing against linux. I'd just run stock with the latest drivers till a crash/drivertimeout and send a crash report and support ticket in your situation. We pay enough to have a fully functioning card on the officially supported platforms.
Yeah I think I'll do a clean install on windows 10 just to try it out one last time and then if I still have the issues I'll rma it
been definitely having this issue with freezes when using LACT to undervolt... but here's the thing: some games never lock (Forza Horizon 5), despite getting clocks around 3200/3300 consistently, while others do often within an hour (The Last of Us Part II). given it's variable by game, I think it's less of a hardware issue and more likely a driver issue to be resolved?
temps remain fine in both, and both types of games are seeing 99%/100% CPU usage on the 9070xt
I'm relatively sure it's a driver issue, but the not knowing is the part that gives me pause. In windows right now on a fresh install of windows 10 I can see with hwinfo that the gpu clock sits around 3050 and sometimes gets up to 3250 without any issues so far it's just weird that the gpu clock frequency limit sits at 3450 because that's kind where the gpu spikes in linux on launch for certain games resulting in me needing an offset.
no lockups in windows?
I'm just leaving mh wilds open with hwinfo writing to a file to test since the issues I saw in windows were random, it would usually just be every 6-8 hours or so the computer would crash to a black screen and restart. On linux I never got anything like that, but would instead get my gpu clocks boosting to ~3400mhz on startup of certain game, something I was able to resolve by implementing either an undervolt or a power limit.
Iโve been running with LACT undervolting and default power and frequency limits since LACT added support for 9070xt. I havenโt seen anything like this on my system, despite GPU regularly staying at around 3300 mhz in RT heavy games.
It may sound obvious, but how can you be sure that itโs not the problem with undervolting stability by itself? It could also be variable on a per game basis. Testing on windows sounds like a good idea, if you have an option
Or alternatively, a problem with an overlay like MangoHUD stability if youโre using that to monitor your frequency. Iโve definitely seen that hang my system in some games after prolonged usage
I think I've seen an issue with mangohud as well, but it seemed to be around tdp when I had the overlay up and monitoring power. I'll probably try again in a bit, but in bazzite I only really installed lact and did the undervolt when I noticed the boost would lock up my machine when I would launch something like mh wilds or cyberpunk
fascinating. I've always had mangohud running -- I'll try without it
Which overlay preset? I found that when I used the present that basically shows everything, I would run into issues.
I've got a custom one I created that shows the details I want for the GPU: gpu bridge temp, mhz, etc.
so lot's of details...
Mesa 25.1-rc1 Released With AMD RDNA4 Improvements, Lots Of RADV & ...
Eric Engestrom is once again stepping up to manage the next quarterly Mesa driver feature release and thus today we have the on-time branching of Mesa 25.1 from Mesa Git and already the release of Mesa 25.1-rc1
oooh exciting!
So next month sometime? Not too far away
whats the difference between like
amds mesa drivers and radv
if there's any at all?
oh so radv is just specifically a vulkan driver for amd gpus within mesa?
The AMD driver sucks ass, can only be installed with workarounds, and no one here will help you with it
That's the difference
Forget it exists, focus on radv
lmao
figured
ramalama is now working with their latest rocm image
sweeeet
Strange behavior when I play since the Bazzite update 1-2 days ago. At a random time my game (Path of Exile 2 and Last Epoche) starts to lag and the graph in LACT looks like this.
When I quit the game and reenter it works normal again until the point the lag starts again. Timeframe sometimes after a few seconds and sometimes I can play an hour.
Restarted game and now it looks normal again.
If I just experienced what feels like a driver crash (game froze and then rest of the system slowly became unresponsive), how can I check the logs to confirm?
This was actually also in path of exile 2 funnily enough
You should be able to see the logs of the last boot using this command.
-r reverses the logs order, so the last reported logs will be at the top.
This also happens to me. I had to hard reboot my system because nothing responded anymore.
KDE is broken on 9070 XT if you enable "prefer color accuracy" in display settings. if you apply the settings from KDE to SDDM, then SDDM also breaks: https://discord.com/channels/1072614816579063828/1087140957096517672/1362775718349766727
Did this happen during any specific activity?
Yeah, itโs been that way since launch. You have to Prefer Efficiency
is that a kde bug or a driver issue?
Iโm not entirely sure. Might be worth searching the term for previous comments. I will say that looking into what that setting does, it doesnโt make any practical difference to run on efficiency
Normal gaming. Nothing special. Running a few T maps.
I've noticed this as well. What does the option actually affect?
i don't know exactly, but i used to do video post-processing so i had it on
Right now, it's only used for deciding if KMS offloading is acceptable, and for deciding the bpc of the shadow buffer, but it might be extended more in the future
This setting
- reduces ICC profiles to matrix+shaper mode when set to prefer efficiency, which makes it not have any performance impact anymore when KMS offloading works
- adjusts bits per color of the shadow buffer (if it exists) to match the preference
This is a bit above my head tbh
On a different topic, I've noticed a 6.14.2 kernel in now in testing. Has anyone tried it out on 9070? is there any difference? I've read that it had something for compute side of things, but that shouldn't affect gaming directly
Also, the scaling issue is a driver bug according to https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/-/issues/4057
GitLab
Changing color accuracy to "Prefer accuracy" breaks Kwin on an RX 9...
Reporting here as per asked in KDE's bugzilla Brief summary of the problem:
oh wow ok
I wonder if that's fixable within Linux 6.14.x/mesa 25.x? or would they wait until 6.15/25.x with fixes for RDNA4
do you happen to be undervolting or overclocking? this happens to me as well when I am undervolting over a certain level, and only in certain games.
This time around I haven't, I just did a fresh install of bazzite yesterday I believe and this time around I elected not to install LACT or anything, just in case having it installed with overdrive enabled could possibly have any impact on things. I noticed that my boost clocks were getting pretty high on my xt like 3200-3300, but it was stable surprisingly enough.
My card has two bios so I was thinking of either switching to the silent one or installing lact and adding some sort of frequency offset, although at this point I don't even know what was the cause of the lockup
given there are several of us having this issue, I don't think it's a hardware issue, but more likely a driver issue that will likely/hopefully be resolved in the coming months
Yeah I kind of think it's not hardware either based on the reports I've seen, just hard to tell sometimes especially with a new release
I don't know if something like this is reason enough to install lact and add the offset when the spec boost clock is 3010mhz and it's getting up to 3200+
Testing is on .16 and mesa .4 since yesterday. I've not noticed any difference so far, but I've not done any gpu restricted things that have consistent fps. No crashes or freezes so far, but those were pretty rare the last weeks anyway.
Latest stable is also on 25.0.4
oh bazzite testing updated to gnome 48 and a buncha my extensions broke ๐ญ
tragedy
not rly a 9070 issue but I havent spoken in any other channel in this server outside of here so...
:DelGatinho:
I fixed them
Does anyone know if FSR4 works on Linux?
I've given it a try and I've had no luck. And at least according to HansKristian we are kinda stuck for now. I assume until AMD helps out.
https://github.com/HansKristian-Work/vkd3d-proton/issues/2398#issuecomment-2796215506
Seems like a couple of people have gotten it running. Just not very well.
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FSR4 Support - AGS ยท Issue #2398 ยท HansKristian-Work/vkd3d-proton
Please describe your issue as accurately as possible. Include screenshots or videos if relevant Using Optiscaler you can get fsr4 on many titles on windows, on linux it works for 3.1 but when i try...
Really had to switch back to Windows. This lag bug is annoying.
Open-Source RADV Driver Begins Working To Improve AMD RDNA4 Ray-Tra...
While the Radeon RX 9070 series as the first of the AMD RDNA4 graphics cards do perform well on Linux, the one area the performance has been less enticing remains with Vulkan ray-tracing while using the Mesa RADV driver
Somebody know why the rt performance under Linux is so bad compared to windows? I don't understand it. Rt hasn't just been around since yesterday.
Iโve read a good article on the topic yesterday, let me find me
Measuring acceleration structures
Hardware accelerated raytracing, as supported by DirectX 12 and Vulkan, relies on an abstract data structure that stores scene geometry, known as โacceleration structureโ and often referred to as โBVHโ or โBLASโ. Unlike geometry representation for rasterization, rendering engines can not customize the data layout; unlike texture form...
Which is exactly the area that the effort described in the Phoronix article above is trying to optimize
Very interesting, thanks. But I think it doesn't explain why the big rt performance gap between windows and Linux exists.
We can consider Windows version to be similar to AMDVLK proprietary driver in these scenarios
They have insider hardware knowledge, which allows them to have better optimizations faster, which take time to be reverse engineered and implemented by the open source RADV driver on Linux
Nope, sad but true
Okay, I didnโt know the disparity was that bad
The new bvh8 branch does bring radv performance at least close to the AMDVLK, even in its first iteration
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1349475618680737893/1362658855108087899/Screenshot_20250418-144930.png?ex=680483f4&is=68033274&hm=2702077beabfdcfcddd383e713bb4129fbf976b63db57f58544e2457f9b784fe&
Nice. Better than nothing ๐
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facinating. what card are you using? and what monitoring app is this? I've got a Gigabyte AORUS card with a huge cooler (and advertising 3.1ghz speeds), but noticed that without undervolting, it maxes out 2600mhz. you mentioned something about two BIOSes? wondering if the windows drivers are what allows it to go to 3.1ghz?
FYI, I found the BIOS switch on my device. flipped it, and rebooted, and now I'm seeing 3100mhz without LACT... I wasn't previously... strange.
You have a Silence and Performance Mode on the card if it has a switch.
This is the powercolor 9070 xt hellhound and I'm just monitoring it with the gnome built in tool. This is with the oc bios enabled, so maybe it's just something with that, but the manufacturer website specs the boost clock at 3010 so it's going quite a bit over that.
I feel like the memory speed is way off as well, so I may just have to end up installing LACT anyway
I also have the Powercolor
Hellhound 9070XT and have been experiencing weird clock speeds in games... I've had an issue where the game is running the GPU at max chat on the main menu, getting 250FPS, then when you load in game, it drops to 30FPS, power usage drops to like 50-80W, and clock speeds drop to 1400MHz. ๐ค
The game is X4: Foundations.
I don't know what tool you're using, but nvtop is great to monitor gpu things without needing to install anything
This is on the main menu ๐ which is a full 3D rendering of space, ships etc.
This is in game ๐ and the clock speeds, power usage are all over the place.
Looks like that has both a windows and linux version. Worth trying to see if it's on both.
try running nvtop and btop while it's doing that to see if there's an obvious bottleneck somewhere if it's on both.
Sorry for the slow reply - passed out due to it being 2AM!
Issue affects both Windows using Proton, and the native Linux version; I'll try what you suggested.
Thanks! ๐
My LACT showed some nonsense info at some point, it said my XT is boosting up to 3500mhz or something and pulling almost 600W of power, it's stopped doing that since some updates to something but it still occasionally reports my fan going almost 16000 rpm for a millisecond (that's only 40% of fan max rpm apparently ๐ ) so I've just decided that lact reporting can be unreliable
Any chance the game is enginelocked to 30fps?
Absolutely not. Windows 11 gives full performance up to my monitor refresh rate.
I'll try the other monitors if LACT is potentially giving dodgy(ish) readings.
This could very well be a game-specific bug. I have the exact same model - 9070XT Hellhound - and I've been running undervolted it in silent mode without ever seeing this bug. Though tbh I've been mostly just playing a few games normally after doing the initial testing
As a side note, I've been super impressed how quiet it is even at full utilization
It's nothing compared to my last GPU - a GTX 1080
That's my guess too. I'm chatting with one of the devs responsible for their Linux implementation, so hopefully it'll be something fixable!
I have a Sapphire Pure 9700 XT and have the same issue. Switched to Windows for now. Cannot play with these FPS Drops atm
anyone on testing channel been getting these weird artifacts around certain windows?
oh thats weird it captures different than it looks
:squint7:
genuinely no idea if this is gpu drivers or gnome 48 weirdness
at least it doesnt affect anything in any meaningful way use wise
ah so might just be a gnome thing
Grumble ok, finally got around to testing this with multiple cards/machines/O/S's/DP cables
Latest MESA driver still giving me issues with Samsung Odyssey G95SD in bazzite.
Monitor: Samsung Odyssey G95SD
Video cards: 9070 XT Power Color Reaper(linux) / 6700 XT (windows).
5210x1440 @ 240hz HDR does not show up in fastfetch, occasionally black screens/lost signal, can trigger with spectacle, opening and selecting, switching source resolves if signal doesnt come back.
Disabling HDR issue persists
5210x1440 @ 120hz HDR shows up in fastfetch) All same behaviors persist.
Disabling HDR issue persists
Cables, ruled out at this point (worked fine from Windows install)
KDE plasma seems to have issues consistently detecting the monitor IE monitor ID will switch ID code (may be unrelated but interesting)
Haven't tested 9070xt on windows install.
Conclusion:
Just be patient and wait for MESA drivers to keep improving.
Questions?
Is fastfetch indicating an issue, or just doesn't support that high refresh+resolution?
Can/Should I report the issue I'm experiencing, if so where?
Could it be anything other than MESA driver issues
I only get it on vesktop, but I have a 9070xt and am using gnome... so not sure either
Hrm i've got a g95 and am using a 9070xt, i'm using gnome, haven't had any issues at all with the 9070xt or my old gtx3000 card. I am running at 120hz without HDR though. I get scanlines if I try and run at 240hz or turn on HDR (this has happened ever since I bought the monitor and regardless of the OS, thanks samsung).
Yeah Im using vesktop. BTW have you had any screenshare issues with vesktop? For me it's literally unusable and people on the other end either get really bad artifacts or the stream doesn't load but if I stream thru discord on Firefox it works fine
I've tried other clients with no success either
The only one I haven't tried is just vanilla discord
I've been using vanilla discord, it seems to be fine for the most part. I tried vesktop due to having a strange audio issue the other week on the discord flatpak (downgrading it fixed it and then they resolved it in .91) and didn't really put it through it's paces due to the artifacting around the window. I have only streamed individual windows, and that seems fine. The one time I tried to stream the entire 5120x1440 desktop, people were noticing weird stuff, like the game looked paused on their side, also the resolution looked really bad (probably due to downscale to 720p and potentially ISP?) but never really figured it out or looked into it, changing to the window only streaming seemed to resolve it.
Hmm I'm using plasma, wonder if its worth it to try gnome and see if issue persists.
a few months ago I wasnt able to stream at all through discord flatpak app. Firefox Browser based discord had no issues though. Later streaming from the flatpak was fixed (pre 9070xt) I think i just tested window streaming though. I will try later today to do the entire screen.
Yeah I almost always just stream the whole screen
But even streaming full-screen 1440p game windows only still gave me issues
I'll mess around with vanilla discord
If it works I'll just have to find a way to put vencord on the vanilla client
Maybe, they donโt recommend rebasing between desktop environments though, could take a bit more effort to test
Hey I dont have nitro or anything but I was able to stream Last Epoch to a buddy and it worked via discord flatpak and he didnt notice any issues
New kind of crash unlocked ๐ฅ
Tried using the obs gstreamer vaapi plugin instead of ffmpeg
interesting, the only time i've had issues is really is when I lock the screen, sometimes i get some graphical glitches when the screen comes back on. I have suspend off, so must be just something with the turning screen off bit.
no this happens to me exclusively with obs
after its open for a while itll just hard crash the entire pc
one monitor turns off and the other would usually just be green
but now its doing this weird glitching lol
480hz monitor with VRR freezes entire system after a few seconds of VRR being active, cannot reproduce at 240hz and cannot reproduce with nvidia
we definitely got an undercooked card xd
is 6.14 less broken?
Testing has new GPU firmware in addition to the new kernel. Fingers crossed ๐ค
praying it's better
new GPU firmware... oooh, glad to hear this!
is GPU firmware generic or manufacturer specific?
AMD-provided GPU firmware blobs that are applicable for any partner model of the card. They are coming from https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git/ repo, which has been updated to the latest release version 0410 on Testing
thanks, appreciate the knowledge
Haven't been able to fully test it, but the Desktop Experience on KDE seems a bit better so far on the latest testing commit with the new GPU firmware/kernel
A lot of the odd stuttering and weird window glitches seem to be gone for me
I haven't had a single lockup in the games that have been doing so, on the new kernel firmware -- but it's early!
Still have a ton of flickering w/ VRR on on the latest github
i read some post saying 6.15-rc2 has patches that solve most of the issues, do you guys know if they were backported to 6.14?
how recent was this pushed to testing? I updated like 2 or 3 days ago
:o
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This is an automatically generated changelog for release testing-42.20250417.1.
From previous testing version testing-42.20250417 there have been the following changes. One package per new version ...
ah last week
then I probably have the firmware then
20250410 firmware is a bit newer than that build
20250311 is on stable rn I believe
Recently upped to testing-42.20250423.4 and had trouble with distrobox spitting out an error relating to /etc/hostname.
Anyone on .5 willing to check if its fixed?
Started the terminal on a few from boxbuddy just fine
hmm maybe updating didn't like that my default shell is Fish. Or the new image causes Fish to forget some config.
enable login shell in ptyxis maybe?
I've had the same thing in an arch container running aurora 42, it's not bazzite specific and definitely unrelated to the 9070/XT
Thanks, I'll give it a try when I reboot back into that image!
Enabling login shell def did not fix it. And yeah it's def not 9070 related, but I'll write down what I've found for anyone else that faces the same issue. My testing-42.20250423.4 did not have a /etc/hostname file at all. Which from my googleing is needed to let containers talk with the host system.
Went to my testing-42.20250418.2 /etc folder and sure enough /etc/hostname is there. As a test I cp'd the old hostname file to the current /etc dir and bobs your uncle distrobox no longer complains on testing-42.20250423.4.
I'll try upgrading to a newer image and see if this is just a one off, or if something with my system is preventing the /etc/hostnames file from being created.
Ok I think this is definitely something related to the Fish shell and my ignorance on what I'm doing. On testing-42.20250418.2 I installed the Fish shell, and set it to my default. When going through the documentation I saw you could change the hostname of the system, which on the testing release of bazzite is set to "fedora". Which I wanted to change back to "bazzite", like how the stable release is set. I didn't immediately see a problem, Fish seemed to set the hostname to "bazzite" no problem, and likely updated the /etc/hostname file since I didn't experience any issues with distrobox in between changing the hostname and upgrading.
When I went to upgrade to testing-42.20250423.4 something about how I changed the hostname didn't work right with the new image. Causing the /etc/hostname file to not be created.
Using hostnamectl on the upgraded image to see the hostnames, the static and transient hostnames differed.
hostnamectl provides a tool to change the hostname, so I gave that a shot.
Now the transient hostname is gone, and it created the /etc/hostname file for me. But this file is readable. So likely this isn't a fix. And will likely not be persistent.
TLDR: If you are looking for 9070 stuff don't bother reading this. I simply wrote down a problem I experienced that I initially thought could be 9070 or testing release related.
New stable release time!
New firmware and kernel, well have to see what difference it makes
My edge case display instability/issues seem to persist on new stable. Usable but annoying. Fastfetch doesn't detect my main monitor and the monitor occasionally blips to black screen. Spectacle screen capture reliabily makes screen blip
Rebased back to stable for the update, a lot of issues with VRR enabled in KDE with parts of the screen turning white/freezing (usually around a third of the screen) for a few milliseconds. Anyone else seeing this?
Switching from automatic instead of always on Adaptive Sync seems to fix it mostly though
Is it the issue related to the Color accuracy - Prefer Efficiency setting?
Turning on Advative sync to always makes my issue occur a lot more
Also I notice flickering in the screen more in general
Switching from away from Prefer Efficiency to Prefer Color accuracy still doesnt seem to work at all for me
How is it then? Working well for 9070s?
Useable, but I'm looking forward to updated drivers I would say
Seems to vary a bit. The only issue I'm having is graphical issues when I bring my system out of sleep
It's been pretty good for me
Aside from random crashes with obs and screenshare issues with vesktop
Will say cyberpunk performance feels a bit underwhelming but that may very well be my aging 5600x
I've had this issue ever since i've had my 9070xt
and it isn't necessarily just sleep, even coming out of screen lock
I've never had it successfully come out of sleep in game mode...
but games overall work, and performing well!
yeah i'm not using game mode, and using gnome, but if i lock the screen and go away for a bit, even without it going to suspend, it happens
Sadly the updates didn't fix the problem i face while playing ๐ฆ
Back to full time Windows again.
For me it worked a couple of days ๐