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mesa needs to be updated in the terra repos and then we need to do an image build after that
currently the mesa build is failing iirc
and SCALE is happening this week so everyone is kind of not super available atm
Do we know an ETA? I’m currently unable to use the machine I have bazzite on now.
and SCALE is happening this week so everyone is kind of not super available atm
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Wendell lists what you need to get it running. Modify your image at your own risk.
Anyone have an example PR of the last time a kernel bump was done? I'm willing to give it a shot if I have something to work off of!
6.14 doesnt exist yet
antheas has to build the kernel first and the only kernels we do are stable kernels
so if you want a non stable kernel you need the sources from fedora, remake our akmods repo for that kernel since we dont do non stable kernels
then you need to patch gnome/kde to work with new mesa since its not out yet
Oh I see so its not as simiple as number of version bumps to get it going.
Bummer I would help out but thats abit beyond my capablities right now.
yeah its why we tell people to calm down and wait, this happens every time there is a new architecture generation
same thing happened with intel arc b580 (except that mainly needed a new kernel that came into testing like 2 days later)
problem is that 9070 release clashes with SCaLE and requires a new mesa
the kernel has the driver bits needed, mesa just doesnt use it yet because the cards didnt exist in the market yet
nobara is confirmed working, not sure if there are any other fedora based distros there yet, but dont leave ur pc bricked. Bazzite will be updated soon
Interesting. They yolod mesa 25 on its own
If it releases in fedora it will be here in 1-2 days
Glad I'm still waiting to buy gpu there is no rush : which is something I told myself before, I was thinking maybe I week or two I will buy it than. But as newbe3 I will ask should I download while new iso or just update. Bazzite after installation. I mean after update?
It's good to see that it shouldn't be to long before RDNA4 gets support. My card shows up Friday, but I dual boot Win 11 so I can hang out in there for a minute. My 6800XT is great, but an upgrade would be super great.
mesa 25 is in
testing as of this morning EU time
no firmware still but games will at least workThat's awesome! Thanks for all the work you guys put into Bazzite! It's great stuff.
very .. thanks for everything ..... im happy my friend pushed me away from windows to bazzite ..... thanks for everything and the good work
and now im in waiting for run for release
Just got my hands on mine a few minutes ago guess Ill have to wait a while
At least the system boots up and I can browse the web and code and stuff
Don't have to rely on windows for absolutely everything
(I really don't want to go back 😭)
testing support should be there
support in testing*
will probably roll to stable today
Oh shoot awesome timing!
thats the magic sentence we all waited for 😛
Tomorrow
thanks alot
@Cereal @Moshenokoji Katanaway
Thanks! Got mine today and it's working for everything in testing except for hardware acceleration in firefox.
That sounds great. By the time I get mine, everything should be good to go!
next monday i will install bazzite on my new pc
I ain't done nothin
I'm just a user
sorry for the ping but I want to ask for a bit of clarification. The new Mesa driver will support running games on the GPU but what does a missing firmware mean? Would it mean degraded performance? Is that something related to the kernel or is it mesa related? Sorry if it's kind of a loaded question but I'm just curious lol
Missing the firmware usually means the driver will have limited functionality or won't work at all.
Example from Ayaneo devices. Only one speaker will play audio due to missing firmware or no speakers will play audio
I see
Thanks
We will wait patiently 🫡
Been going ok for me with the testing branch and a 9070xt. Only had one game crash and it was early access and pretty janky with video drivers even with a 6700xt.
I do get a black screen but it comes back, actually working better than with the 6700xt. Sometimes it would totally lose signal (happend in windows too).
I am admittedly running 240hz 1440p on 49'' super ultrawide monitor over a 10 foot display cable and its using DSC. I need to use a shorter cable and see if issue persists. It honestly happens more on the desktop then when I have a game running.
oh yeah there are so much stuff in that setup that can be a problem 😂
I think I'm just going to attach my tower to the side of the sit/stand desk at this point. Actual legit VESA certified cables shouldn't be this hard to find (and I am pretty sure they dont exist for anything over 6 feet).
Oh yea I forgot to mention its all running through a physical TESmart KVM too, you know for added complication (issues persist if I run directly to the monitor though)
im rebasing to testing rn
I just flipped to the latest testing that depricated the kernal version. Less black screen flashes now.
I was benchmarking yesterday on windows and while it was fun playing games im just so used to gnome on my main desktop that it just felt wrong
id rather deal with bugs and potentially worse perf and just be on bazzite lol
Yea the biggest issue ive had is one of my games just crashed when i tried to launch. But its early access and has had driver issues in general. So probably on the gamedev.
Other stuff runs just fine
makes sense
I dont rly play many new games anyway I only really upgrade to play older games better so I doubt ill have much issues
Yea probably be fine
They did mention somewhere that the mesa 25 drivers should be coming to stable branch tomorrow. I will prob switch back to that when available.
oh in this channel duh
yeah lmao
prolly same
I should rebase to non nvidia image while im at it lol
no real reason to do it but no reason not to either
ope guess screen sharing might be an issue
obs is barely refreshing at all
Hmm I havent tried that yet with 9070xt it worked well enough with 6700xt a couple months ago.
Discord screen sharing doesnt work through the application (but it does through firefox browser).
Thats on discord devs though
oh actually screen sharing works on vesktop
I did have to set it to x11 on flatseal though, screensharing with it running under wayland caused some really annoying audio crackling issues and performance drops for me
I havent tried discord screen sharing yet since I havent hopped on a call
will do soon
sorry to bump this guys,
hows things going with the 9070xt drivers ? and will it be rolled into the nvidia update image aswell >
ive been using the nvidia image for a while but have swapped gpus a few times, hoping the new radeon drivers work with the nvidia image to
Cheers
Im on the nvidia image and its working on the testing branch. It's got some weirdness like obs screen capture being insanely laggy and discord not playing certain videos and discord screen sharing having encoding errors occasionally
but nothing like catastrophic
totes usable
@dansv8 [ERIC] if you need to use em right now and dont wanna wait till they hit stable you can rebase to the testing branch by typing
brh rebase testing into the terminalThanks @Cereal , I've not done a rebase before, will that mess up my desktop / apps / what I have installed ? I'm new to Linux and rebase sounds like a windows reset 😂😂
nope
all my stuff is intact
nvidia image is just "normal image with nvidia driver added"
we already added the firmware and mesa 25, should come to stable soon
I don't mind going to the test image and playing around 🙂 will give it a go later Ty
Switching to stable image with the firmware/MESA 25 drivers
It has reached Stable?
Yup 6 hours ago
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Nice
Thanks for the support
stable gaming hell yeah
welp, finally gonna make the switch from kinoite to bazzite
Been Playing Soul Mask, another early access games with no issues on stable and a 9070xt!
Anyone else not getting hardware accelerated video playback in Firefox? It's working in Brave
Might have to wait for flatpak to update
There's a known bug with the display freezing and an open PR in Mesa
I'll try to ship that one sooner than they do
We already ship one for VRAM issues
Ok thanks for the info and all you guys do.
the MESA 25.1 fixes Indiana Jones, will it be soon merge mind if I ask?
I'm still getting weird crashes in Deadlock almost every game now. I swear it wasn't this bad when I was on nobara but I could have just been lucky I guess? What's the beat way to try and log the crash and then have something to investigate? I'm a complete Linux novice.
9070 non-XT is broken on stable, working in testing. Getting crazy graphical artifacts on stable. Is testing on different firmware level? I know they have the same Mesa and kernel at this point
You can check the kernel, mesa and firmware versions here https://github.com/ublue-os/bazzite/releases I've tried almost every one and still seem to be getting issues so maybe it's just a wait and see thing although it would be interesting to compare to what versions nobara are on (and if they're newer perhaps it's just a waiting game until they become available upstream)
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By all accounts stable and testing seem to be the same. I wonder what is causing it
Did you make sure to have your monitors on prefer efficiency rather than colour accuracy?
Didn’t check that, only because it’s on prefer efficiency in testing. I’ll rebase to stable and look
Yep, still on efficiency
However this time things are booting as normal. Perhaps kde decided to default to accuracy for that rebase? No idea
Could have been, that's usually the first hurdle I've seen people have with 9070s so far.
now the wait for LACT support begins. Reports indicate the non-XT overclocks well
Yeah I'm wanting to undervolt mine but hopefully keep the same performance just less power.
Has anyone run into low power draw in their 9070/xt cards? I'm wondering if there is some workaround or if it's safer to wait for linux firmware to update because I'm currently only seeing 100w draw so performance is understandably lower than on windows.
What game?
Everyone seems to be running into that with Monster Hunter
Anyone having issues with Cyberpunk? It will not run for me, it will crash my whole system and just reboot once I get in their launcher and press play.
had the system freeze up when I tried running dota
ultimately powered down the PC
mine has been freezing every time i try to reboot
firefox completely seizes up if I try to navigate anything video/image heavy - youtube sub/home screen
and hardware acceleration isn't working for media in firefox
so things are "working", but also very unstable
also, I can "hear" my GPU - coil whine sounds - as a I navigate anything video/image heavy in ways that I couldn't on say windows if I dual boot into that
launcher option:
--launcher-skip
if that doesnt help then idk as i cannot replicateHonestly that's the only game I've tested so far, but it would probably be good to try out something else to see. I didn't even consider it could be isolated to a specific game because it pulls the full 300w+ in w11.
That could be an issue of being cpu limited? When I set everything on max in 4k in helldivers I get the max usage from my xt
Well it makes sense, its the biggest game release right now. But yes, unfortunately in that game specifically people are reporting the 9070s not utilizing properly on Linux
They are exactly the same
Yeah. I am unsure what was causing it. It's possible that maybe KDE switched my screen back to "prefer accuracy" after rebasing. But after re-rebasing the issues are now gone
Just to confirm
ujust get-logs is for if the game crashes but doesn't crash the system right?
and the ujust logs-last-boot for if it does requre a hard restart?I didn't know 9070 xt wasn't supported yet. Is that the reason why it keeps freezing and crashing on the dashboard? Just installed bazzite on a newly build pc for my living room and can't even get one game to install. Temps look fine
It's in the very early stages of support so it's still buggy, especially in gamemode/big picture.
Oooohhh dammit I was finally excited to sell my ps5 lol
Any ETA? Days, weeks, or months?
I imagine full almost bullet proof support will be a few months, but I also think every week or two we'll get substantial improvements. There's people working on it all the time it just needs to become stable further up the tree where Bazzite pulls from which takes a little while.
I see. So my system freezing and crashing just while downloading a game is completely normal?
I want to make sure it's not a hardware problem
Are you in the gamemode or desktop?
Game mode
It could potentially be just because of how gamemode works. Try do the same in desktop mode if possible?
Ok I will try on desktop mode. Thanks!
Worked like a charm!
Same problem on desktop mode 😮
Just suddenly freezes with black screen on my tv
this is the common dance with brand new hardware unfortunately - similiar stuff back in 2020 with a brand new 6800xt
See if you can go to display settings and check your tv is set up as prefer efficiency? I know that has been an issue for some people.
takes a couple months for linux support to fully land after launch
I see. I'm just scared it's a problem with my hardware since they are all new parts. I guess the only way to know for sure is to install windows and see if it freezes there?
Other than that I'm not really sure. I've moved over only last week (after using a steam deck docked for about a year) so this is all new to me, just trying to help out with a few common things.
we will ahve some fixes in testing later today
for amd new gpus
If you have windows it might be worth a try since it's always easy to hop back once more improvements come down the pipeline. At least you can have peace of mind then about your hardware.
Are these bazzite fixes or never fw/mesa/kernel?
mesa
Ah sweet, will hop onto testing then once I see its there.
What's the easiest way to update when the possible fixes are released?
If you want to try on testing you can enter
bazzite-rollback-helper rebase testing into console and it'll rebase you to the latest testing branch.Cheers
and then
bazzite-rollback-helper rebase stable if you want to roll back to the latest "stable release"
Just because sometimes theres been a few testing releases a day.You can compare changes here: https://github.com/ublue-os/bazzite/releases
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stable has the same issue
go to march 1st
i think we need fixes at the end of this report
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/issues/12781
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Ive been getting like hard system crashes occasionally when alt tabbing to and from games
On the stable branch specifically
Yesterday night I swapped to the testing branch again and it's been working fine
i think alt tab crash should be fixed for the next testing build, from what i currently see in the mesa-bazzite branch
ah awesome, that's one I kept getting pretty regularly in game.
let me double check, i have been following mesa gitlab and personally waiting for the alt tab fix
actually i dont know the specific commit that fixes that 😦 but i used mesa-git and dont have those issues compare to what's currently in testing.
@Kyle Gospo when do you think we will have a testing build
I'll kick one now
I installed windows to test the new hardware, and have been running occt tests with no problem for over an hour now. So I guess it's the 9070 xt compatibility in brazitte/Linux.
AMD doesn't release stable drivers for linux on launch?
no they dont
welcome to linux
artifact fix is in testing
@Valerie test artifact fix?
I'll get on testing now
What the hell
So the community has to create drivers themselves?!
they release drivers
they arent stable
they were late with mesa 25
and as you saw artifacts
they also were late with the firmware
I see.. that's confusing considering they know valve wants to release SteamOS for all hardware this year..
your card will not work on steamos
just forget it
all hardware:clueless:
Valve hired some developers to work on AMD hardware support in the mesa vulkan driver
now gta v crashes
nice
I doubt SteamOS will work on Nvidia at all at launch, let alone new AMD cards.
and those people are the ones fixing 9070 xt issues last week
did they hire them though?
give me a name
And then Valve moved to 6.11 as their "new" kernel, to make sure they don't get those fixes for another year
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pixelcluster
"Contractor for Valve"
there's another one, one sec
Again though, the patches don't really matter if Valve aren't using them
Like cool that they're doing this. SteamOS still isn't using it, and won't be for a while.
i don't know why people are so intrigued into using SteamOS
they are still using X11 for desktop mode
Because it's a big company
people are literally making comparison as if Bazzite is no good compare to SteamOS
they backport stuff
but contractor employee is not
you dont get the same benefits
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/hakzsam
RADV developer from Valve
When I get a crash,
ujust logs-last-boot is giving me hours of lines. Is there a quick way to swap it to get the last 2 mins?Looks like it's fixed
i did a mesa backport, most of the commits on the steamos side were from him
seems like an early 2024 hire or earlier
Well yeah, because it's an os that doesn't show the ugly side of Linux often, plus they were there before us
So we are left looking like the ones forking of them, at least from an outsider perspective
Test the artifacting guys
Realated to prefer efficiency?
No, wether you get the fuzzies
Do you have a picture?
Still getting some freezes/crashing but less than before. Yay 🙂
I just got a system hang on a 9070XT, after which I could only recover by doing a hard shutdown. Could be related to me alt-tabbing away from the game a few seconds prior.
I see a kernel crash with a stack trace in amdgpu in the logs from the previous boot.
Where would be the best place to report it?
ive been having hard crashes and hangs when alt tabbing and I think it happens whenever I have a game running, im screen sharing, and I alt tab into firefox but its so inconsistent its really weird :enaHUH:
Where would I even find logs for these hangs?
journalctl -o short-precise -k -b -1
Where the last number is the boot index. 0 - current boot, -1 - previous, -2 - the one before thatHmm I didnt game much this weekend but no hard crashes for me that ive seen. I do think firefox is using cpu vs videocard still. Maybe try closing firefox while gaming and see if it helps?
Which in my case looks like this
That's a good idea. Another suspicion I have in mind is that these crashes could be tied to me running MangoHUD overlay (a new shiny GPU, need to benchmark that!).
Anecdotally, I haven't seen a crash yet after turning it off, though I haven't gamed much since
Anyone update their system and see whether LACT supports the 9070 series now? I am not at my computer but they updated it on the 16th.
I've noticed that I'm getting better power draw with the recent update to stable, but sill not getting close to the max. I haven't tried out LACT before, but I've seen it refernced when digging up info on previous amd power draw issues. I'm guessing I should install it with rpm-ostree and that it's relatively safe?
ujust install-lactSo power usage is kind of all over the place, I do see it getting into the high 200s and briefly hit 300, the frametime just isn't very smooth. This is on a 9070 xt.
Unless there's been a new release today it's still not working correctly yet.
Just checked. Latest release is the stable one so yeah, no changes yet.
What version number?
41.20250315
v0.7.2 adds RDNA4 support. Which is 3/16. so our build is like a day off
I might try with Firefox closed and see if I get crashes. Most of the time I've got steam, discord and Firefox open on a 2nd screen.
Cool, might be because that version hasn't made its way yet to where the Devs pull everything together so might naturally take a few days from a release to be able to be pulled here.
I have had firefox crash a couple times, but no games so far
huh, lact on my bazzite system, installed via ujust, is reporting 0.7.2 release. so perhaps it's been updated in bazzite?
I’ll update when I get home. Haven’t tried yet
has anyone noticed weird brightness or contrast issues with 9070xt in linux? nothing that makes a game unplayable, but dark areas sure are dark in some games.
Are you in game mode?
yes sir!
Are you plugged into a tv via hdmi using 4k120hz?
yes I am.
Unfortunately HDMI 2.1 featureset does not work in Linux. So when you run 4k120hz it does so in a super limited color space to work in 2.0 bandwidth. You’ll have to go 4k60hz or get a DP to HDMI adapter
Layered packages update independently of the base system.
You turn on hdr and boom, looks like total Garbo
fascinating; contrast/brightness wasn't an issue with my last AMD card 7800xt...
I assumed cause it's early days for 9070xt.
In sdr it’s less noticeable
Nah ironically I found this out on my 7800 XT
I’m not sure if the color space stuff only gets really whacky sometimes or what. But it’s why things are super dark most likely. Change to 4k60 and see if it looks different
huh, well the different in Ghost of Tsushima 7800XT vs 9070XT is stark. non-HDR is almost 100% dark. HDR has artrifacts in high brightness areas. neither occured on 7800xt. again, I assume there are two issues (HDMI & early days for kernel/mesa support for 9070)
What artifacts?
Outside of this though ghost of Tsushima is probably the best performing game on Linux with 9070s so far. I can get 4k120 dynamic res without frame gen on a non-XT
White skies don't have smooth gradients but banding
aye! the performance is great! 🙂
another example game is Euro Truck Simulator / American Truck simulator -- dark areas are DARK, and in-game brightness adjustment does nothing
LACT on my HTPC is 0.5.6... lol
layered packages should update with the rest of my system when using the Update command in desktop mode right?
Yes
Point is their versions aren't tied to Bazzite at all
I guess I'm just not sure how my system has been updated for months now and LACT has stayed at that low of a version
0.5.6 is from September 2024
fyi, lact 0.7.2 does note some bugs:
I've noticed it's a little buggy on the OC pane.
I updated my whole system and LACT has stayed the same. Going to try reinstalling it from scratch
I restarted the game without HDR enabled in game mode, and non-HDR looks fine now. HDR shows the artifacts in sky.
I reinstalled LACT and now it is on the current version. Looks like the 9070 can't be pushed to a higher power limit yet unfortunately
4k60hz?
4k120hz, will try 60hz! had no idea about the HDMI 2.0 limitation.
just to verify thats the issue
same issue with 4k60hz unfortunatly; likely an issue with early support for 7090. I'll wait till more support comes down the line (kernel, mesa 25.1+, etc.)
What kind of tv do you have?
LG CX...
same banding issue in 4k60, 4k120 in Forza Horizon 5 with HDR enabled; this definitely wasn't an issue with my 7800xt -- which I had using for two years with HDR in gamemode no problem
Press the green button on your remote a bunch until you get the pop up that tells you HZ, color space, etc
I have the exact same TV
It'll say "VRR Information"
Thanks. I know this little trick… I will test when I’m back home with both cards.
Is there a game or two you’ve had issues with I can test as well?
Nah, I'm pretty set
had a hard freeze while using blender outta nowhere and lost like an hour of progress 😭
its starting to feel like it just freezes after the system has been running for a while
I think this is about where it crashed?
seems like its gnome crashing
:thonking:
Would DP to HDMI do 4K120hz in HDR? I think I’m experiencing the same issues with my LG G4
Yeah it works fine on hdr
But also 120hz? Because I’ll just get a different cable then.
Yes. That’s what I use
Googled it a bit, that’s another massive rabbit hole 😂, gonna try the Cable Matters one, Reddit seems to think that’s the best one.
I recommend this one: https://www.amazon.com/CalDigit-DisplayPort-Adapter-Refresh-Eyefinity/dp/B0BY3SW376/ref=sr_1_3?sr=8-3 it has the highest theoretical bandwidth
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Gotcha, gonna order one and try it out, thanks!
@xxNotorioussss @tacomilkshake https://www.reddit.com/r/Bazzite/comments/1jdeu1l/comment/mifqxa3/ this guy seems to think this method of cable setup gets your HDR and VRR. I'm going to purchase and test it out. He mentions the banding issues too
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Canceling the other one and purchasing this too to test
Damnit they only have 1.8 meter cables
womp womp
Got my tv on the wall, definitely need more than 1.8 m 😂
If the cable works I'll sell you my CalDigit adapter for $20 shipped
To the UK 👀?
Aw heck
It'd probably take a while
Hehe I got the caldigit adapter coming in this Sunday for £25 so not too bad
It might fit
I'm just mad I've spent $60 on cable stuff now
But having VRR would help a lot with games that can't quite hit 120fps
Yeah exactly! Is it worth it and it’s only gonna be better I reckon with driver updates
Dead Space remake for example, at Native 4k wants to sit around 75-100fps. Modded nier automata at native 4k is like 90-110fps
At the moment I just drop the resolution to 3200x1800 and that solves it
It’s a shame though, I got a G3 on the wall, would love to use 120 VRR
And not use windows
Beautiful!
Thanks! The inside is less beautiful 😬
Need to get custom cables, but yeah, bit off topic 😅
"I spoke too soon. Everything was working great yesterday. Couldn't have been happier. Then today arrived. The option to select 120 Hz is no longer available. It's just gone. I am stuck in 4K/60 mode. I tried restarting, unplugging the cable, going into desktop mode, etc.
For the time being I will just stick to 420 mode using my HDMI. I can't really tell a visual difference anyway. DP to HDMI cables are always going to be finicky and I don't have to the patience to deal with something that can randomly just stop working." I don't think I'm going to bother with such a crazy workaround
Oh shit, so the caldigit adapter is still the best bet
Seems like it for now. Perhaps a DP 2.0 to HDMI 2.1 adapter would work better, but I haven't found one that exists
has anyone run into an issue where a game will seem to run fine initially, but the second time you run it, the system seems to freeze from what I'm guessing is the display driver crashing?
CalDigit ACTIVE DP 2.0 to HDMI 2.1 8K Video Adapter
Active DisplayPort 2.0 to HDMI 2.1 Adapter *Currently Apple computers, including Apple Silicon Macs, can only support HDMI 2.0b through their Thunderbolt ports. This will limit possible resolutions up to 4K 60Hz.
Yep, that's the right one. No issues in 2 months of use so far
@malex I assume it doesn't add any (noticable) latency?
None
also you've completely ruined my perception of HDR on my system haha. I figured it was working fine for the past years (just with a little brightness issues that I attributed to Linux).
did you have luck with LACT and your 9070? I haven't tried overclocking yet myself, but was able to boost performance in games that don't use full clocks.
Is anyone having issues with The Last of Us Part I? The game reports just 6GB of VRAM despite RX 9070 XT having 16 GB. Also the game runs slow. I tried the flag SteamDeck=0 %command% but it didn't help.
So far I've not had any crashes with Firefox not open on my 2nd monitor mid game.
What performance are you getting in TLOU?
Very poor, like 10 fps
thats definitely abnormal, i think my performance is on the low end but not like that
Btw, I wrote about a crash when alt-tabbing yesterday. Happy to report I haven't seen it happen anymore without MangoHUD overlay running
The key with amd cards is to undervolt rather than push the core clocks. I undervolted my 9070 by -100mv and now it runs at around 3Ghz, which is 300mhz above its advertised boost clock. Seems stable for now. I can’t push the power limit up yet, probably a vbios limitation of some kind. But if you can, max out the power limit and play with undervolts
oh wait we can do that now?
Yeah LACT got updated with RDNA4 support. I had to reinstall it to get the latest. For some reason my ostree img never updated since September
i just opened it and it showed up! pretty cool
ill tinker with it some tonight
which version?
0.7.2 is what you want
damn im on 7.1
Is there a command to install it?
Are you on bazzite and install Lact with ujust?
If so just update and restart your system
Saying error.
If after that it doesn’t update,
‘rpm-ostree reset’ restart and ‘ujust install-lact’
I'll try a full ujust update
Yeah exactly
However keep in mind rpm-ostree reset will delete any layers you have. In case you’ve done anything wacky
Nah dont think so
If you decide to, just check rpm-ostree status and make sure you don’t have other layers
Whats the console command for that?
rpm-ostree status
ujust
woops haha
I’m on my phone and can’t be bothered to use the code quotes
nah no ujust
;rpm-ostree status`
Yeah just Lact. Did running updates are normal not work?
Restarting just now so I'll see 🙂
Ah awesome, we're cooking.
Thanks for the heads up.
Cooler control got a nice update too.
I'm getting like, 70% the performance of people benchmarking TLOU on youtube at 4k Ultra
I don't have an x3d cpu so IDK if that is contributing to the disparity
Definitely a mesa issue. The x3d cpus shouldn’t be giving that much of a gain on a midrange card like this
Gonna try 260w, 2800mhz memory and -90mV and see where it goes.
Definitely not getting your performance with TLOU... I am using a Sapphire Pulse 9070 xt. I hope it's just Mesa and not something else fancy.
Do not mess with the memory. It’s gddr6 already pushed to its limits
Reporting indicates you’ll actually lose performance due to some of its error correcting features
I'm on GE-Proton9-26, I had issues getting the game to open on GE-Proton9-20.
Also I'm on bazzite testing but the mesa version is the same as stable so I don't think that should change anything
I am using Proton Hotfix, I will try GE asap.
@emmenem Any other games?
Currently sekiro will not let me go full screen. It crashes. That’s the only issue I’ve had with my card
A part from TLOU and Indiana Jones and the great circle that has graphical glitches (fixed with Mesa 21.1+), the other games I have tested run great (Black Myth Wukong Benchmark, Jedi Survivor, Horizon 2, Zoe 2, Jedi Fallen Order and other 2d games).
are the two things we want/need for better support of 9070 on linux an updated kernel and a more updated Mesa?
and I should ask: anyone else having problems with 9070 waking from sleep? it seems half the time it doesn't wake properly (or at all -- black screen, can't SSH in)
@malex -- this is what I've had from my 7080/9070 since I've had them over HDMI: tv reports 4K/120 + HDR10 with working VRR. in some games, like I said, the colors are a little off or have banding, but several games like RE:4, perform and look great. are you not able to get these enabled over HDMI?
FSR4 is still not supported
Yup, I've seen this happen
@Kipz there was a firefox update/refresh this morning, my tabs stopped crashing after I applied it
Also thanks for the suggestion to try out LACT. I was originally planning to wait until things become more stable in the factory preset before experimenting with OC on top of it.
But your discussion has sparked my curiosity. Just applying -100 mV undervolt with no other changes I see my 9070XT boosing to 3300 and above in CP2077 with Path Tracing! That's way above what I expected!
Not at 120hz. I think it may be possible to get VRR under some circumstances with hdmi 2.0. But you can see that it’s 4:2:0, which is low quality
It might be due to the lg oleds supporting Freesync specifically
got it. but I will say the VRR has been working great from 120fps all the way down to 50fps or so, when the (standard) flickering comes in
and makes sense that 4:2:0 would be the cause of the non-ideal HDR!
In sdr 4:2:0 I think it’s manageable
thx for having a wealth of knowledge on this stuff...
Below 48 fps you're in LFC territory, which support on Linux has always been spotty
How are you able to update LACT? I’ve tried to uninstall and reinstall to update it. Also, just doing a normal install to see if that updates it and it stays at 0.6.0-0
How are you installing it?
I will also say, at the end of the day you could do 1440p120hz at full rgb without much issue on 2.0. And perhaps freesync will work on it
Just opening the terminal and ujust install-lact
That is weird. The layered Lact seems to be inconsistent
I made sure everything is up to date, and I’ve tried probably 3-4 times rebooting and it just stays at this version.
What version of bazzite are you on? The -deck image?
I think something happened to the ostree images around that time, because my 0.5.6 got stuck too. Do `rpm-ostree reset‘, restart, and then ‘ujust install-lact‘
My 9070xt works fine gaming on Bazzite as long as I don't try ray tracing, I tried enabling ray tracing on Spiderman 2 and it just crashes
Stupid mobile
I’ll try resetting it. How do I find the deck image in the terminal? (Sorry, still a little new)
You don’t need to change it. I was just wondering. When you start your computer does it go to a desktop or into steamos game mode
Game mode.
So you have the deck image. That means you have to manually update. I’d still do an ’rpm-ostree reset’ first since I think those images broke somehow.
Rebooting now, but it looks like that worked.
Mine seems to be steady at about 240w power cap, -300mhz and -90mV. Boosting to about 3000 but at about 220w average.
Pretty much same out of the box power but with way less draw.
Worked. Thanks bud!
Anyone else experiencing their 9070xt fans not spinning when using the new version of lact?
Sounds good. I still need to play around with it a bit more
XT?
85% power seems to be the sweet spot for my card. Running around -70mV gets it back to full performance in Superposition
Is LACT persistent on reboots and in gamescope? It says it is persistent across desktop sessions so I assume so?
I'm not sure about gamescope but I can confirm it persists through desktop sessions. I learned that the hard way lol
It is if you've installed via ujust and not crashed
LACT will eventually reset if it crashes too many times in my experience
Right now things are kind of unstable. If the performance works for you then run with it. XTs seem a bit more fickle than non-XTs at the oment. My non-XT will run with whatever I throw at it within reason
But I'm restricted as heck. My power limit is maxed out of what LACT can give it out of the box. On windows you should be able to push it to 270 watts, but I can only give it 245 watts
but I need the 25 watts to cope with the fact that I bought the gimped card. Granted I bought it before all the prices seems to overclock beyond what I can do
Yeah idk what truly stable undervolt will end up being for my card, but I was able to run a cyberpunk benchmark successfully (no RT though yet)
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/undervolted-rx-9070-xt-beats-rtx-5080-rx-9070-and-9070-xt-models-with-heavy-coolers-have-massive-oc-headroom this is what I have worked around. Granted, this is with only manipulating TDP and voltage. RDNA4 will go as hard as it can within the power limit provided it seems
Tom's Hardware
Undervolted RX 9070 XT beats RTX 5080 — RX 9070 and 9070 XT models ...
Multiple online tests affirm the power of AMD's undervolting curve
No need to mess with the clocks unless you are truly overclocking in order to beat 3DMark scores. In which case, you should be on windows
I love this powercolor reaper, it stays like, 15-20 degrees cooler, doesn't sound like a jet engine, and seems to undervolt better than my xfx 6950 xt did
Also Derbauers undervolt on his XT is so absurd you would almost think that perhaps they sent him a binned card. But I'm just a conspiracy theorist
my Gigabyte 9070 went up like $100 today on Microcenter's website, so I think I made the right call lol
yea AMD paying the stores to get it down to MSRP is a clear sign its not a price that will hold, good value
This card hits hard. I undervolted by 100mV and it's running at 3300mhz and staying below 60c!
What model? msrp?
i think im getting around 2900mhz on my -70mV, does that sound right?
Gigabyte AORUS Radeon RX 9070 XT ELITE 16G -- massive cooler. didn't expect it to be so big.
on an XT?
yeah
Given that you've lowered the power limit yeah
It just depends. I think the best results will come from maxing the power limit and optimizing the undervolt. Just depends on your priority
289W iirc
blows my mind that undervolting a card makes it faster...!
these are clearly so much more power efficient than other stuff. Probably because they don't have any use for higher bins given that they've locked themselves out of the high end
When I say max the power limit, I mean leave it untouched at its maximum and only adjust the udnervolt. Unless you want efficiency. For efficiency you're doing pretty good. I doubt the extra clocks will get much
yeah im going for efficiency right now
i may consider overclocking if it gets me to a threshold like maintaining a certain framerate
You have more units at around the same clocks as my non-XT. Probably 10% better roughly if I had to gues
If we had VRR none of this would matter, but such is life
I need to hit 120, otherwise I'm dropping to 60
no VRR? it works on my AMD cards with Bazzite and my LG CX.
i get around 90FPS 1% lows in cyberpunk at 4k with DF optimized settings so I cap it at 80 fps since i have a 240hz panel
I do not get VRR in order to get a proper color space. We've talked about it a bit I think
ah, I didn't realize that was the trade off. thanks for clarifying.
90 on 120hz should be fine too
The fact is that HDMI 2.1 or a darn displayport on your TV would make it so you could have th best of all worlds
But I think that 2.0 120hz at 420 should be fine with Freesync
I’m eager to get that adapter in the mail.
Just keep in mind that adapter means you do not get VRR anymore
VRR is nice if latency matters more than image quality
And all of this only matters in HDR. if you are using SDR than 420 is fine
I just wish that Cyberpunk's visuals impressed me enough to use it as a benchmark for performance. Outside of path tracing I don't view it as a showcase
Given that Ass Creed Shadows supports the steam deck on day 1, looks absolutely incredible, and isn't running on Unreal Engine, I think it'll be a good benchmark
(visually)
I only recently got it, literally because I wanted a mainstream benchmark game for the card lol
OK, perhaps I've looked at the same save games of Cyberpunk for the last 5 years that it just doesn't do it for me anymore, lmao
I don't know how youtubers do it
FSR4'd path traced cyberpunk at 30fps is what I want to replay it
Unfortunately a lot of these newer games rely so much on upscaling that we're at a loss until FSR4 works. FF16 is a good example
Yeah
That’s about what I get as well on my XT Hellhound. -100 mV 3300 MHz. I had to double check what values are other people reporting online to make sure it’s not a measurement error, because it seemed too good to be true.
@tacomilkshake @xxNotorioussss I booted up Ghost of Tsushima this morning to get a good comparison picture between 8-bit 420 and 10-bit 444 in HDR. Unfortunately my phone camera cannot properly capture it well enough. I will admit that being 10-bit is much more important than 444. The real killer of IQ in HDR is the 8-bit color space. I also tested a solution I saw on reddit to resolve the banding in Game Mode which is to enable developer mode and turn on "Force Composite". It is a night and day difference in Ghost of Tsushima which has crazy banding in the sky. I don't know what game mode is doing but hopefully it gets fixed out of the box soon. I'd be curious to see if this helps the image when at 8-bit 420 HDR too.
The second picture is exactly what I have with Monster Hunter Wilds, you can clearly see the lines
I’m not home at the moment, but I can do more testing when I get home
I should get the adapter next Monday.
At 8-bit 420 there is some noticeable banding in the sky thats not there at 10-bit. However, with Force Composite on its still far better
My adapters (and the cable) arrive tomorrow... but work... so, will probably be testing this weekend.
Any plans to release the updates from this thread to the testing branch?
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/issues/12781
GitLab
9070XT/GFX12 crashes with starcitizen,indianajones [page fault] (#1...
Description The game crashes after max 7 mins in starcitizen (DX11>dxvk) and instantly in the menu of indianajones (VK native I...
Yes before the mesa went down
Got it. TLOU defaulted to the integrated gpu. Selecting the right card fixed the issue. So far so good.
@Kyle Gospo https://github.com/bazzite-org/mesa fixes from here applied
git format-patch --stdout --zero-commit --no-renames -k mesa-25.0.1 > ../ref/terra/anda/lib/mesa/bazzite.patch heres the commandWhat performance are you seeing in TLOU now?
I don't use MangoHud so I cannot tell the exact fps. 4k ultra settings and the game runs just fine. I can install MangoHud and report back if you are interested.
I would like to know if I'm getting similar performance to you since windows benchmarks appear to be much higher
i have tried my luck using chatgpt to patch the commits from https://github.com/bazzite-org/mesa using your command too, but to no avail. I guess i will wait for the testing-branch with those commits to come out. This has short circuited my brain, i really appreciate what you guys do. Thx for your hard work!
GitHub
GitHub - bazzite-org/mesa: Mesa fork for Bazzite. Includes early fi...
Mesa fork for Bazzite. Includes early fixes and SteamOS goodies. - bazzite-org/mesa
That vibes are off
Buy a scented candle
@Kyle Gospo you want to handle mesa? Fix some crashes for next stable
Probably not corruption
Yeah can do later today or tomorrow
?
No rush from my side
Like add a patch and pr to terra
Yea
I ordered a gigabyte 9070 xt gaming oc from newegg and it was 1099 CAD, 140 dollars over msrp …. But it’s been the only card I have been able to order since launch…. So it is what it is.
I got a powercolor hellhound 9070 xt at launch day for 760 usd
I lucked out
I really wanted to get an msrp one but they immediately sold out online and I DID sell my rtx2080ti to be able to buy a 9070xt so I bit the bullet
seeing what has transpired since... I dont regret it
Whatever new testing branch update came out today it completely fixed the random freezes I've been having these past few days
Thank u bazzite devs <3
Getting this text on Forza horizon 5.
strange! I haven't had any problems FH5 myself...
I'll try a restart see if that fixes it. What version are you on?
According to Mangohud, TLOU is between 45 to 50 FPS, 4K, ultra settings (amd 9700x). I cannot tell Windows performance, since I don't use it.
That matches the performance I saw in the opening cutscene
Actually I think I was around 55 average and it dipped below 50 when looking at the mirror as Sarah, then going up in the 70s when looking away
Restart fixed it
my DisplayPort to HDMI adapters arrived (both the CalDigit & CableMatters), and while the color space was better than 4:2:0 I couldn't get Bazzite to output 4k/120fps on either...
and FreeSync didn't work, but VRR did. dunno if there's a differnce.
VRR definitely doesn't work on the CalDigit adapter and never has. I would double check that your cable is 2.1
interesting. it must have worked with the Cable Matters adapter then. cables are 2.1 certified -- I actually hate them for how thick they are haha. I plan to try the DP to HDMI cable later, but not sure if I need to reflash the firmware on it first.
https://www.phoronix.com/news/Mesa-25.0.2-Released
new mesa with RNDA4 fixes on the way... 😁
Ray tracing support maybe?
think it's just bug fixes, but I could be wrong!
Or I think the problem is Ray tracing partially works atm. Like the cyberpunk benchmark runs for a while then crashes
A lot of these fixes are stuff we already shipped via back porting, but we'll have the complete set available on testing soon
LOVE BAZZITE...!
I can't even get Cyberpunk to run.
Heroic syncs saves, says the game is launching, then just goes back to PLAY GAME without ever launching it.
What version of Mesa is flathub using rn?
Might not be new enough
Oh also I got blender 4.4 half working on my arch distrobox. I can use GPU for cycles in the viewport but not when rendering an image
I had no problem running Steam version of Cyberpunk since the initial support for 9070 xt has been added. Played probably 15+ hours with RT and PT cumulatively
Wait then why am I getting crashing with Ray tracing? Hmmm
Hmm... OK, that's handy to know thanks.
Must be how I've got Heroic set up because I'm using the GOG version. I'm a newb to Linux so I'm reticent to do much troubleshooting because I'll probably break things further.
Rules out it being a problem with Cyberpunk generally.
Which version of Proton are you using? Mine says it's using the latest Proton Hotfix
there is definitely something weird with ray tracing, doom eternal won't display anything when running with RT turned on, someone online said this new mesa solves that issue with eternal
but I also have had no issues running RT in cyberpunk
I'm on the latest ge proton. I could try hot fix and see what happens
And I'm on w/e mesa bazzite testing is on atm
I get crashes on Proton Hotfix as well. KDE reports a pageflip timeout amdgpu error
To introduce a new problem to the list, it appears that the hardware encoder onboardthe 9070 will break after a while. I'm sure it's just a mesa issue but when streaming to my steam deck or ipad it will eventually say the device doesn't support any codecs and refuse to connect me.
a va-api issue*
dolphin emulator is like
straight up not having a good time
can anyone get any game to run at full speed even in native gamecube res?
I tried a couple of games just now and yeah, some of them aren't great
cant even get sunshine to run at 20 fps 💀
Even Animal Crossing has a bit of hitching
And that's the lightest GC game I'm aware of
its literally an n64 port so yeah lol
good to know its not just me then
I haven't used Dolphin on Linux much, but it's listing "llvmpipe" as the adapter. I think when I still had my 2080 it listed the actual card there
yeah I noticed the same
Quick test in Cemu, WWHD is running pretty much the same way
It also identifies the GPU the same way. So something seems off, but I'm nowhere near knowledgable enough to determine what
I opened up Sonic Adventure 2 Dreamcast on RetroArch and got like 3 fps lol
I fired up Ocarina of Time and it worked fine on the title screen at least. So lighter/older emulation still works fine as far as I can tell
That's a pretty high end game
It probably shouldn't be on a 9070 XT
has anyone had their 9070 wake from sleep successfully? mine is always a blank screen, and inability to SSH in to reboot it or check logs. I always have to power off using the button on the PC to recover.
(this is in gamemode)
I'd welcome any tips for capturing logs from this...
Mine does. I think only once it didn’t. However, the Xbox controller do not work after sleep so it’s kinda useless at this stage for me.
I’ve had that problem. And then my 7800 XT system refuses to sleep; it just goes to sleep then immediately wakes back up again
Thanks. Mine is doing this every time -- I haven't had a successful wake from sleep yet. Going to try and capture logs using
journalctl -b -1.On the latest bazzite testing with mesa 25.0.2-2 I was able to run the cyberpunk benchmark with raytracing a couple times with no crashing finally.
My RT performance seems to be a bit lower than Gamer's Nexus benchmarks but my raster is slightly faster than their raster
I will be testing Alan Wake 2 RT shortly
Anyone tried running LLMs? Ramalama seems to recognize the GPU and load the model into vram but times out when I prompt it
from reviewing my logs, I'd guess my sleep issues are caused by my system having both an iGPU, and dedicated GPU (7090 xt)... strangely this never occured with my iGPU + 6800xt system.
🤨
Can anyone get gimp working properly?
I'm tryna change brush shape and it just crashes immediately when I select one
Not a flatpak issue cus it's working on my rx6400
:thonking:
nvm its a flatpak issue
its doin it on another computer
Run "flatpak list" and you'll see flatpak is still using Mesa 24. We should wait they upgrade to the latest version (Mesa 25). I have exactly the same problem with Heroic Games Launcher.
Oh no wonder Firefox and vencord are like
Not working right
Oh and emulators
:empty:
This explains a lot
Oh yeah heroic would just straight up not launch cyberpunk for me
I even tried uninstalling and reinstalling it
Colossal waste of time
You could try running
To get mesa-git beta flatpak and use
FLATPAK_GL_DRIVERS=mesa-git flatpak run my.app.name
I was able to get UnleashedRecomp to find the Vulkan backend with that but there was another error that prevented me from running that particular flatpakIs this why nothing I run out of heroic will launch now? Didn’t even consider it
May switch to a distrobox arch version so that it’s using up to date mesa then
Anyone else having problems to get Waydroid working with the 9070?
You have to wait for waydroid itself to update
They have their own copy of Mesa that exists inside of their Android install
Thanks for the info. Hope they will update it soon
9070 users, have you experienced anything like this?
https://discord.com/channels/1072614816579063828/1353390848590479410
I'm pretty sure it's related to the GPU support
I think I can wait but will keep in mind
Alan Wake 2 RT is pretty remakable. In the opening scene I can get 40-60 FPS at 4K FSR Balanced with Medium Preset, Low RT. That is about double what my 7800 XT could do from memory. "Low" RT in AW2 really just means no path tracing
It also appears that GE-Proton has fixed the dependencies you had to dig into protontricks and install before. Plug n play now using Lutris
and that's considering the current state of drivers, I would assume that things should only get better from here
Yeah. But afterwords framerate tanks to around 30 and it has crashed. Hopefully gets better
Switched to the Heroic appimage and that works. It uses the system mesa if I understand that correctly
Yeah it does
Wukong is crashing during gameplay. Like consistently. I’ve tried amdvlk drivers and they seem to fix the crash but the game runs poorly on amd driver. I am on testing branch by the way. And I’ve also encountered a lot of issues with waking from sleep. Latest testing branch seems to have solved any issue related to the wake up, at least with ff7 remake (I’ve also disabled expo and removed all changes I did to the curve optimizer of the cpu). Wukong seems to break wake up though, even with amd drivers. I’m loving bazzite…but I hope things can get a little bit more stable with my 9070xt cause right now it has been a mess to make things work
Waking up from sleep isn't working for me either, massive graphical issues that only get fixed with a proper reboot. I'm on the latest testing branch with MESA 25.0.2 now and Indy works. I don't have Wukong so can't test that one. Everything for now seems to run nicely except for MHW whioch is still stuck at 100 watt power usage.
I'm on latest testing and still getting crashes. What's weird is that the game crashed and not the whole system, but it basically freezes the monitor that the game was running on. Any ideas?
And then it bounces back to the menu? You can still hear the movement of your mouse/controller in the menu?
usually yes, that's what happens to me also with wukong
sometimes it does a soft reboot to gaming mode , sometimes it freezes on screen but i can hear the menu working behind the frozen screen
I decided to let wukong go for the moment, although that was one of the major reasons i wanted to have a "living room pc", and started playing at FF7 that's working nicely with proton experimental (i had some weird graphical glitches with the latest stable proton) and does work with wake up nicely it seems if you exclude the audio crackling at the beginning of the wake up process
but i think this is still less than stable obviously...there are major problems with mesa drivers and the 9070 series support at the moment...and i think that this is impacting also the sleep/wake up process
this is my issue opened on the mesa gitlab repo btw
GitLab
[gfxhub] page fault - Black Myth: Wukong crashes every time I play ...
Description In 25.0.1 this problem was less obvious. It caused some crashes but they were more sparse. With 25.0.2 this is...
I no longer get this on cyberpunk rt but I do get it on gtav enhanced rt.
It's a very strange freeze. I can actually use my second monitor but I don't think there's a way to fix the freeze besides restarting my PC.
Yeah sounds the same. Ah well, fingers crossed fix comes sooner than later.
I wish I had modern games to test lmao
the most demanding games I have are rdr2 cyberpunk and.... starfield....
Nevermind, it appears those glitches that i thought i solved by switching proton version are in fact a consequence of the waking up process. It did the same just a while ago, had to reboot the pc to make them disappear. Basically it's almost like it's unloading parts of the scenario from the screen...i see all black around the pg 😄
tested AC this week, that runs absolutely fine and looks gorgeous with the 9070XT
are you running a single GPU, or do you also have an iGPU? I'm thinking the combo might be contributing to my issues.
got a 7800X3D but I disabled that one in the bios
i could see it in LACT, after disabling it in the bios it's not seen in LACT anymore
I’ve seen this happen with very heavy RT games, though I haven’t seen it recently in Cyberpunk. It happens very frequently in Portal RTX and Half Life 2 RTX. I have iGPU disabled in BIOS
The RTX mods are free on Steam, so they are easily available benchmarks
Anyone try to use Waydroid? Mine fails to load with a 9070 xt
Best I could find online is it's a driver issue but curious if anyone other than myself is having issues
It’s been discussed a couple of days ago https://discord.com/channels/1072614816579063828/1347285101872152688/1353390690939179109
It's in deadlock which don't think has rt?
Not at my computer rn, but in my case it was amdgpu pointer related error, not deadlock
Ah thank you, sorry for not searching back
@malex lets see if this works:
A few people on reddit have reported black screens. One had a samsung display that supported up to 144HZ, so he had to enable display safe mode in big picture before changing the resolution and refresh to the proper 4k120hz
I have an LG G3 and so far so good in desktop mode
Yeah LG seems to be perfect
VRR doesn’t work, that’s correct right? I can see only 60fps in game mode, do I have to change settings in game mode?
Well, you'll want to manuall select the resolution instead of auto detect in game mode. And no, VRR will not work
If that doesnt work, you'll want to verify your cable is an HDMI 2.1 cable
Just tried avowed, 4K with low settings with 120hz in settings applied but still does 60 max. And yeah I specifically got 2.1 cables for my ps5/series x too
I wasn't able to get 4K120fps with that adapter
it just didn't show up in Steam settings
So they are definitely the correct cables
Where are you setting the refresh rate? In display settings of Game Mode?
Display settings on desktop is 120, ingame also 120, but the right menu in game mode only shows 60 max
HTPC or "deck" version of bazzite?
HTPC, AMD, KDE version
OK, so, the "Game Mode" that you boot into outside of your desktop is a different environment from KDE. You need to set the resolution and refresh rate separate from that
You need to, in game mode, go to settings > display > and uncheck automatic resolution setting. From there, select what you need
Gotcha, I missed that completely, let me try that
That did it!
Aw yeah
Unfortunately no VRR
Yeah I know, maybe one day when the hdmi dicks get some sense into them
Also as I stated before, on first boot it will not use the right color space in my experience. You'll need to enter desktop mode and back on fresh boot. You can check your color space by mashing the green button on your LG remote
Good stuff
Nice one thanks! Worth the expensive adaptor haha
Don't forget to enable developer settings and turn on "Force Composite" to get rid of banding in HDR
Yeah I tried that too, makes a massive difference! RGB 12b 4l12 HDR10 is what I need right?
I assume that's close to RGB. My TV only ever outputs 10b RGB
Actually it might say that in HDR too, I'll have to check when I get home
I think avowed just crashed my whole machine on 120hz 😆
9070s be crashin in general. I'd avoid much RT
Oh that’s fully off
Undervolt?
Yeah, but only a little
dat prolly it
Played hours and hours of Hogwarts on ultra 4K
Hard to say right now with how unstable it is on linux
Yeah but at 60 right? Your gpu probably wasn't pushed that hard
Avowed put on low and rt off just to test 120fps
Very true! Should do more testing indeed
Hmm no it wasn’t undervolted
Probably just standard instability then
Or hell the game just crashed. Does happen
I mean it is Xbox 🥲
jeez the color banding in all Playstation ports is very bad...i'm going to try this as soon as i can
Yeah, here is my example in Ghost of Tsushima. World of difference https://discord.com/channels/1072614816579063828/1347285101872152688/1351835183887814686
It’s such a massive change that one setting, you could count the rings around the moon in Ghost of Tsushima
nice
It's partially because Playstation titles likely have high quality HDR implementations which make the banding more noticeable. Most games have cruddy HDR
Exactly that screen shot I meant
cause you didn't see clouds in death stranding
And now it’s running fine 😆
clouds were so bad that i felt eyes fatigue at some point
for me, in the display settings of game mode. 4k120 isn't there, but 4k60 is. with raw HDMI cable, I see 4k120.
Strange. Do you have another cable to try just in case? it giving you 120hz on a 2.0 output means nothing, because its still the 18gbyte bandwidth
aye, I can, it's just my TV is on the wall with a narrow wall mount that makes changing HDMI cable absolutely terrible...
I've been also meaning to try the DP to HDMI cable I got...
Also depending on the TV I suppose a PORT might only be 2.0
LG CX, port 4
All CX ports are 2.1
Love my LG TV...
Yeah I have a CX too, I don't think I've owned a single TV this long
haha same. especially with newer versions adding little!
I'd like the higher peak brightness really
I want them (or anyone) to fix VRR/freesync flickering in dark/grey scenes -- not sure if it's possible or not though
From what I understand it's just an inherent weakness of OLED panels atm
HDMI 2.1 drivers on Linux, that’s what we need 🥲
I used to get flickering on my IPS LCD LG display so it's definitely not only an OLED issue
I think VRR can cause flickers in general
I do get it from time to time on my OLED but far more than on the LCD tho
No, it's not only OLED, but OLEDs tend to suffer from it pretty consistently from what I understand
It's just more noticeable on OLED probably
Could be that, yeah
Mainly bc pixel brightness = panel brightness
Can i force my cx to do 1440p? Lol
In an LCD the backlight is always consistent
It should work if you manually set it in Game Mode settings
Is that only on the 42in model?
No, like, I mean in Bazzite
The CX should support 1440p output if you select it on any given device
For some reason I can’t select 1440p120, only 60, all other resolutions are fine
Weird. Probably a steam os issue
ironically 1440p120 would be the resolution you would only need 2.0 for
Yeah strange
Gotcha. Yeah when i swap to 1440p on windows my lg still shows 4k. I’ll give a go in bazzite
I think I got a small performance boost in GTAV RT but it still crashes on latest bazzite testing
Hey guys. How's 9070 xt compatibility atm?
Tried it last week and it kept freezing amd crashing
Raytracing unstable and I'm unable to use a lot of gpu accelerated programs with it like davinci resolve, real video enhancer, blender (can't render to file)
I see. I guess I will try it again in a month or two
Its good enough for me although I am getting a bit antsy not being able to use some of this stuff. gaming without rt works fine and general web browsing is fine of course
Damn even with the flatpak version of prism launcher using mesa 24, the 9070xt is just casually dropping over 1000 frames at only 50w of power not even using 20% of the gpu
Actually insane
yeah minecraft is crazy cpu limited
try some RT shaders 😈
I see a new stable update with Mesa 25.0.2. Nice!
What's the downside to having firefox via rpm-ostree apart from slower updates? I just installed it in order to have a non crashing with functioning hw acceleration.
Wukong still crashing with new testing release
I saw it dropped with a new mesa version but nothing concerning the page fault I guess
I wanted to link a mesa issue I came across in case it would help, but then I noticed the reporter's name 🤦♂️
it was mine?
😄
Yep 😆
One issue I’ve noticed happen occasionally is that sunshine will break and moonlight will tell me the host device doesn’t support any encoders. Only fix is restarting / entering desktop mode. Will suck when this happens while I’m away from home
Hmm I cant seem to get sunshine to work
odd just running "sunshine" got it to start up successfully... i dont get it
does bazzite auto update? my pc had been working fine ish these past few days but its back to freezing every now n then
Yes, you can also run "ujust update" in a terminal window to update and then reboot.
You have to reboot after update to run the latest
well the problem is that it updated and now it broke stuff
🫠
You can switch to previous builds too
Do you remember which one worked best for you?
nope
im in the testing branch so,,
Ah darn you'll just have to try different previous test builds
"ujust setup-sunshine only enables the systemd service that allows it to run in the background. It appears you just disabled it and then checked its status. I would run "ujust setup-sunshine" again
After restart, probably
No luck after reboot,
The website console isnt active either. If i try to start via app from the start menu it shows a loading icon but then nothing happens. If I run "sunshine" from command line console starts up. If I right click on the start menu and say run in terminal it opens a terminal and runs, and console starts up. I dont get it
May need to rebase? Sunshine was already enabled by the time I installed my card so idk if starting it is broken. But I don't see how the gpu would break Sunshine service
Yea ok odd ill wait for next version of stable
kinda figured maybe that was it
I think it' ll work running manually
The config for video was a bit confusing too, it says to specifically look for display ID under troubleshooting, but i dont see the exact line. Did you have to manually configure in the web console for display capture device and monitor?
No, but I only have one screen connected to my HTPC
It says to look for something like "Info: Detected display: DP-1 (id: 3) connected: false" under troubleshooting tags in the logs but I dont see any line with "detected" I can see the name of the one I want to use "DP-3" but I dont see "id" mentioned anywhere.
[2025-03-27 08:28:07.778]: Info: Name: DP-3
[2025-03-27 08:28:07.778]: Info: Found monitor: Samsung Electric Company Odyssey G95SD
I can probably trial and error that though
Will give it a shot this evening
oh any idea if its better to have integrated videocard capture or 9070xt. I kind of assume the 9070xt but its also rendering the game on the system... so maybe integrated? Again something i can play with.
Depending on your CPU the 9070 likely has a better video encoder
9800x3d
I believe they have rdna2 integrated graphics. Don’t know if a hardware encoder is included. Even if it does, it does not support AV1 and the 264/265 encoders before rdna3 are low quality
this thread i huuuge.. what is the state of this? is it possible to create a sticky post about it somwhere? maybe a page on the bazzite docs website?
Still quite unstable doing anything but non-ray tracing gaming
this is our home now... 😂 -- we have no where else to talk about 9070 cards on this discord
so i should hold off buying a little more then?
no real rush thankfully
If you do other GPU accelerated tasks you may be disappointed currently. I do but I'm okay with testing and waiting for full functionality
only gaming for me
(also unleashed recomp just doesn't play because the mesa flatpak doesn't work yet)
i got a rog ally x, and the plan is to do egpu
I'm using my 7090xt pretty successfully for gaming with egpu... as noted some occassional freezes, RT is difficult, etc.
Retroarch seems to not recognize the card or something. Plays at really low fps
ok thanks saves me some time!
If it's the flatpak, it's because freedesktop needs to update Mesa as well
i was running 7700XT as eGPU. the experience is ok, but not great. Bazzite won't recognize external monitors in gaming mode with the eGPU for some reason, so the eGPU works best in Bazzite desktop mode, kind of defeating the purpose. The performance gain is good in some games, but rapidly drops off due to combo of CPU bottleneck and bandwith cutoff due to limitations of Thunderbolt connection. I wouldn't bother running high end GPUs as your eGPU, your performance will get bottlenecked while most of the GPU's frames will be sitting idle while the CPU tries to catch up. depends on the game ofc.
I am getting this error fairly frequently playing throne and liberty -
Likely has to do with Ray tracing
Google keeps giving me mixed results on whether the game has ray tracing or not
naturally there isn't an obvious "turn off ray tracing"
I turned lighting down to medium 🤷
Well that was good for a while...
Is there a good way to recover other than holding down the power button on this PC?
I haven't found one. It feels like it could be recoverable though since stuff still happens in the background after it freezes
Yes the mocking on discord before I restart is great
Turned everything to low and I didn't crash for a long time, although I was getting hitching near the end - not sure if these are related
There's a fix for RTX remix crashes I've been complaining about, but it's not been merged yet. Good to see the fixes coming in fast.
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/34178
GitLab
radv/rt,vulkan/bvh: Fix more cache coherence issues for GFX12 (!341...
First commit is similar to a1b05991...
I tried this and it isnt working 😭
just gives me this
I was testing with firefox but other apps are giving me the same errors
Yeah it seems to not work too well
remove the flatpak and its service, thats your issue from the looks of it
Hmm I thought I had but I'll try harder with that thanks
The service said it was trying to run flatpak sunshine
At least in that image
Hmm it looks like I removed the flatpak as I thought, sunshine doesnt show up in the "flatpak list" command. I will rebase a bit later this morning and maybe that will get everything pointing to where it should.
When I removed the flatpak I just right clicked on the application (saw 2 sunshines listed) and selected uninstall. It removed one instance, and the other would not uninstall. I assume thats the one included in the base bazzite image.
ok new strat reinstalling sunshine flatpak and uninstall using command line vs GUI
Ok got it thanks @HikariKnight had to remove the service that the enable command was symlinking too, when i did that it generated one without the faltpak sunshine data still present
is there no hardware encoding for amd on linux? I installed the obs rpm with rpm-ostree command cus the flatpack was basically unusable but in the encoder only software (openH264) is listed even tho it should have acces to system mesa an whatnot right?
might this be an obs issue or is it that there's no encoder yet for the 9070 series?
oh if you go on advanced settings and set the encoder to ffmpeg vaapi it lets you select the gpu
neat
I should probably retry this on the flatpak but considering the preview on the canvas was showing fine on rpm versiona dn on the flatpak it was all screen teary and laggy I dont have high hopes
will report back in a bit
Still getting the weird game freeze, but it's just the monitor and the game is still running fine. Like I can tab out and see it running in the tab menu, it's just the screen that's frozen.
So like the preview tab for the game screen shows but the actual full screen game does not?
Has anyone been able to use any video editor? I'm trying to use shotcut but it crashes when I try to import a video
Works for me with some old mp4s from heroes of the storm
On today's stable release
Davinci resolve does not work for me yet. All videos are black and don't actually play
Just an FYI but I updated to firefox 137 via Discover just now and it looks like they added compatible mesa drivers for my 9070xt. CPU isnt going way up whebn I watch youtube and the option to force hardware acceleration showed up for me
hoping it cuts down on freezing issues too, will have to see how it goes
if it doesn't just install the rpm one. That's been working perfectly for me
can you go to this site? https://webglsamples.org/aquarium/aquarium.html
it should look like a 3d fishtank full of fish
if the hardware accel is actually working
Yup, they show up
YEAAAAH
hype
slowly but surely things are improving 😌