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What do you do with the log? Read it, of course
Java version too old
it is the most modern version of java my friend
it is jdk 23
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net.fabricmc.loader.impl.FormattedException: java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: net/minecraft/class_3218 has been compiled by a more recent version of the Java Runtime (class file version 65.0), this version of the Java Runtime only recognizes class file versions up to 61.0
yes I can read
but what version of java do you recommend I acquire if the most modern one doesn't work
I tried jdk 23 and jdk 21
that was the first thing I did
21 should be fine
didn't work
Are you sure you have 23
yes
I am sure I have 23
Do java version
I am sure I have 23
Just do it
I am sure I have 23
[17:09:21] [main/INFO]: Compatibility level set to JAVA_17
Well?
I'll type it a fourth time for you
but I am sure I have java 23
I have installed it 6 times today so yeah I'm . I'm pretty sure
Oh my god just run java -version
now if mc isn't using it thats another issue
any other tips
Downgrade to 21 and try
I already did that
as previously stated
Premade pack or custom
custom
binary searches always work the point of going here is to avoid them
Okay
Go into the launcher profile
And see whatโs your Java executable
32gb ram
sure
1sec
how would I go about forcing it to java 23
Where did you get Java from? Eclipse adoptium or oracle
oracle
Iโve heard oracle java can cause weird issues in very rare cases
Try eclipse
You are a dev anyways, you should know this
bold statement
dev by necessity not by choice
The error is fairly conclusive
that's what I thought too
im all ears ยฏ\_(ใ)_/ยฏ
switching to eclipse ver
@hawtre whatโs your interpretation
You mentioned it earlier
same crash w/ eclipse adoptium
That's a java 17 runtime
we are all in perfect agreement with the issue hawtre
what we are trying to find is the solution
my java is 23
I have swapped between 23 & 21 multiple times
You think your java is 23 but it's not
Is it added to path?
Force Minecraft to use the eclipse java
would you like to scroll up and see the version I showed
Instead of bundled
Sounds like you might have multiple versions installed, and minecraft is using an older one for some reason
^
If you want to fix this you're going to have to figure out what you're doing wrong
Yeah, launcher is using bundled java
Which is somerthing to do with your java versions
Which can be outdated
What's your startup script?
wdym
Startup flags*
I'm just using base mc launcher right now to run singleplayer
But doesnโt sound relevant to me
it's all default mc stuff
Switch from bundled to eclipse
where is eclipse stored
file wise
what's the default path
Should be in program files I think*
what's the uhh like
actual file I have to specify
the release?
Hold on
Let me check my own launcher
heh its default
figures
what
wdym the launcher's program files
maybe
just maybe
ok I know you're like a stone cold dick but I seriously do not need the sass
uh wait
you are free to ignore the thread if you want to shit on me for not knowing literally everything
you are also free to help yourself
im trying to figure this out too
just stop being a dick cause thats how you get help here
I was never once being a dick dude
the entire thread is right here
you came in swinging from the start
just try locating java under program files and launching the game again
I've done nothing but answer your questions
crash report?
uploading
let me try this too
you are using javaw?
i used java.exe instead of javaw
changing now
idk whats up with your system, works fine for me even if i manually defined it
should use the one with the w
testing now
game launched then crashed
new stuff though
grabbing log
you want the crash report or latest
at least we are getting somewhere
both
report
latest
okay uh
try removing ALL the mods (move them to somewhere else)
and launching the game like its stock fabric
trying to rule out the possibility of mods causing the issue
i saw sereneseasons in your crash logs upon first look
I am 100% sure mods are causing the issue I'm just trying to find which one lol
want me to cut that alone first
well at this point your only option would be binary search
the inevitable option
wait
you can start by removing those two first tho
nah you hit the nail on the head
those arent fabric mods
it was serene
lol
oh it was serene?
ye
ggez
ty king
โ ๏ธ jackpot
wait
those are
quark is for fabric 1.20.1
probably forge or something
is their modrinth fucked or is the innate version on the mod wrong
or you downloaded the forge branch
let me check
says forge here
oh huh
yeah I cooked myself true
tyty
this is also forge
yeah thats the quark library
rough guess is you have something thats incompatible with serene
I agree
hold on let me read the logs again
it's fine
I was using serene / fabric seasons
but I cut toughasnails in favor of frostiful / scorchful
so I'm guessing that it's better to cut serene regardless
because frost and scorched are built for the latter, not the former
fabricseasons worked fine for me tho
so it shouldnt be the mod itself
oh AWESOME
we're back to uhhh
fuck me let me send the log
broke again?
yeah I got my old mouseclick eventhandler issue
def a mod thing let me drop the latest
yikes
hm
that's a weird one actually
you might want to try to downgrade your fabric loader ver
you reckon that's the issue?
I've had those since day 1 but all listed mods function perfectly
I assume it's an innate listed version issue as opposed to a real issue
I could try though
might be, some mods are not forward compatible with newer loader versions
worth a shot either way
downgrade to what
id try 0.16.9, worked for me on 1.21 with fabricseasons (yeah i know its not 1.20.1)
would normally avoid using newest for the sake of compatibility
tryin now
lmfao nvm
modernfix is 16.10 only
not droppin that
hm
I'm not worried about losing serene seasons regardless it's already out
I just want to identify the new world creation crash
loader 0.16.9
modernfix 1.21 works there
I dont think its modernfix, but you could isolate it and see what happens
it is not modernfix
because this pack was working on a prior version w/ modernfix
okay then
it's one of the last 100~ new mods for sure
you have a crash upon world creation?
ye
why skull
i aint gonna binary search that if i were you
are you a loser who's scared of big numbers
indeed ๐
you see why I come to this discord instead of binary searching now
kk
let me send logs
I'll send crash report then latest
as someone who runs a production server, more mods = more instability = more crashes = more work for you ยฏ\_(ใ)_/ยฏ
I've made over 20 modpacks w/ 400 mods a piece over the course of the last 6 years
I'm well aware
unfortunately I like fun servers so it is what it is
ye, lets see your world creation issue
crash report
assuming it's not gonna be in there so let me grab latest
latest
oh my fucking god is it moyai
I'm gonna shoot myself if it is
sometimes talking to another guy can help you troubleshoot faster even though im not doing anything ยฏ\_(ใ)_/ยฏ
IT
WAS
FUCKING
well yeah i was reading, but seems like you were faster
MOYAI
I'M SHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTING MYSELF DUDE
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what the hell is moyai anyways
it is EXACTLY what it sounds like
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thats it
thats the whole fucking mod
:SKULL:
DUDE
and yeah having a wall to bounce words off of helps for sure
you tend to second guess yourself alone
I usually make a thread here and talk to myself as I fix an issue for posterity anyways
that way if someone ctrl f's the same issue in the future
i have questions
they can find how I fixed it
why the hell does this exist
what is your questions
what the fuck do you mean
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thats why
fair point
so it works fine now?
this iteration of it yes
worry not I'm like
20% done with this pack, at best
glad you fixed it ยฏ\_(ใ)_/ยฏ
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ty for the help
ill be anticipating ATM100
btw
ye?
I'm a 1.16 / 1.18 kinda guy
mostly forge
playing with fabric 1.20.1 for the first time
obviously I'm skimming through all the top stuff / ports
you will probably like fabric
but do you have any recommendations for some fire mods that might slip under my radar
i find it easier to work with compared to forge
big agree yeah
hm, now that you ask
much more optimized for large packs too
let me check
I keep a personal discord full of hidden gems or unlisted mods
I have a copy of the most recent release of reterraforged :sunglas:
I can send what I run on my production server if you'd like, just to get an idea of it I guess
sure
do you have a modrinth folder for it
or nah
you can see the startup ๐ง
you got discord mc chat working ?
let me pop that one in
I like armorstands a lot, porting those customizable armorstands from bedrock into java
good for the builders
timeoutout
those are server mods, dmcc does not work for clients
how good is it
this will be a server
I just test on client before publishing to servers
time for me to express my hate for dmcc ยฏ\_(ใ)_/ยฏ
go for it
the default configs pings every single admin for every update pushed
minor or not
that's gay as hell
I have a home rig where I self host a uhh
let's
let's call it a
media library
ye. youd be getting spam pings to update this shit if yoiu dont turn it off
and I run a bot on that rig
every time someone dies in one of my servers
the bot reads the death string
looks for certain key words
then joins vc
and plays the appropriate song
:marketplace:
if you die of fall damage, lemon demon's ive got some falling to do autoplays
its pretty fucking funny man
stole these from you
dabr is also fun, can be server/client or both
turns your elytra flight into a fpv drone
alr have ๐ฅ
since you got svc, you may or may not want to consider audioplayer
custom music discs for fabric
ohh shit
how does it work
wait thats raw as fuck
upload a file and you can run a command to attach the music to a specific disc
I have one of them web portals to let my players do whatever they wish with the songs
how'd you go about setting that up
just using my existing web server as a reverse proxy, and running php for it ยฏ\_(ใ)_/ยฏ
I see I see
sobbing.
I'll look into that though
ty for the tips
especially timeoutout
timeoutout wasnt that obvious behind a proxy, but Ill just guess it worked
i love those two as well
generally I shy away from mods with so few downloads before the masses have uncovered the fact that it actually deletes system 32 if you attempt to run the mod in combination with dickfucker89's carpet dye mod
epic terrains and players drop heads
oh shit
how does epic terrain play with uhhh
reterraforged
Ive also used tectonic before, lacking compared to epic terrains in my opinion
yeah this looks fucking amazing
noob question but how do you use datapacks for terrain
just throw them in a datapacks folder??
https://map.twhvyt.com/
our world map if you wish to see how epic terrain generates
squaremap
Blazing fast live mapping solution for Minecraft servers
that is hot as fuck
mods folder
oh I see
what is "epic terrain compatible"
Modrinth
Epic Terrain - Minecraft Data Pack
This package was written by me through the datapack exercise.
Because I was tired of vanilla terrain and I always wanted a realistic terrain that was efficient, I set out to refactor vanilla terrain.
not too sure, I've not touched it
does it play nice with modded biomes?
I guess not really
it is not fully compatible with mods that increase biomeswell it does look hot as fuck so I'm down
do you use any other biome or generation mods
or just that one
in your experience how does it play with structures
not any visible interference
nice
damn
villages and whatever generates fine
so you just run vanilla biomes??
nothing else??
thats kind of crazy but I'm down
yah, epic terrains is very fire
just for you I'll run it
let's see how it goes
gotta go cut out all my biome mods now
oh ye
if you run a server, I'd honestly turn that movement check off
movement check is always off
it's called not being a PUSSY
oh shit
SEEEE
THIS
THIS IS THE KIND OF THING
stock movement check is just ass
THAT I WAS ASKING ABOUT
SOME SCUFFED ASS 3K DOWNLOAD MOD THAT FIXES A MAJOR ISSUE
THANK YOU
not really any good fabric anticheats, so better just get rid of stock
oh
sobbing.
xd
i do run 1.21 after all
you can just disable the check anyways right
in vanilla
I dont think there is a config for it
vanilla checks doesnt do anything against the guys who wish to hack, so why have it anyways
I only play with friends
we don't hack
(we're not lame)
so I don't care about anticheat
same here, thats why i just turn checks off anyways
it hurts those with poor connectivity
lagging back in place
it just sucks for fast movement too
which uhh
parcool rolls + elytra bounce
is the Most Fun Movement In Any Video Game Ever
allow flight maybe
nah that doesn't disable the check
but I've got a mod lying around somewhere to fix it
or I'll make it
you could probably port this to 1.20.1
epic terrain + biomes o plenty = no go right
not too sure, biomes o plenty was suggested in my community before, however I never really got to using it
try and find out ยฏ\_(ใ)_/ยฏ
sure
I'll test it with regions unexplored, BoP, and reterraforged
then I'll get back to you
graves if you wish
alr stole universal gravestones from ya
spawns a grave to prevent items from flying everywhere ยฏ\_(ใ)_/ยฏ
I did configure it to not create a grave for fire/lava deaths so items can burn as normal
testing epic terrain now I'll lyk results
ty for the drops & the help
epic terrains
What the fuck is that waterfall
ye
that was NATURALLY generated??
thats insane
mhm
that's fucking awesome
waterfalls are cool
that's really hot holy shit
okay yeah I'm running it solo rn
and I'll run new gen with each of the other mods and see if it breaks
epic terrains does take a bit of time to generate
so I would advise chunky
yeah so
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so I
i loaded this shit
and i
INSTANTLY
found THIS???
this is the best mod of all time
yeah, epic terrains is insanity
ive used terralith, tectonic, lithosphere in the past, all lacks compared to this
although at the cost of higher rendering times
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headin to bed for now but I'll drop this one here before I do
plenty of new mods with a new crash
not sure exactly how to fix that last error
Crash report might be easier
seems like nightconfig and couplings doesnt play well
oh
this is very frustrating
nightconfig is an embedded library in a few mods, it's not an actual mod I have
and I have no idea what's calling it
CORGILIB
I THINK
a million mods, a million deps ยฏ\_(ใ)_/ยฏ
these guys were the culprits
the loss of enhanced celestials is tragic
those shaders looked amazing with it
you should kinda figure out why fabricseasons doesnt work. I find it beautiful to look at along with epic terrains
?
it does work
serene seasons is what broke
I use fabric seasons
yeah i have it lol
I think* fabricseasons is a fork of serene, so upon loading it says sereneseasons
interesting
https://mclo.gs/ZNN9YjC
As per my logs, serene seasons, but I use fabric seasons ๐
ok uhhh
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yah?
I just tried to launch mc
no crash report but the progress bar fills up to 99%
then stops and just laods. Forever
9 full minutes
no change
so i closed it
heres my latest
yikes
yikes indeed
is this like an optifine only thing
do not have optifine
but that's a resourcepack
ye, some packs are optifine only
that pack is not
I've used it many times in this exact pack
I just added a few new mods and now I'm having issues
I'll try launching with no resourcepacks though
hm
seems like mods do not play well with each other indeed
sobbing
cut immersive weathering and merchant markerws
still having issues
oh
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nvm trhat
What the fuck
holy shit
ok it. it loaded
but its lagging as fuck LOL
OH
NVM
works?
it wasa fps reducer
ok we good
for now yeah
ah
ye, big packs can be a pain
truth
lol okay this is INSANELY laggy
no idea whats causing it
cpu redlining at 100%?
yes
and its using a nice solid 26gb of ram
no shaders on LOL
are you generating chunks?
sounds like all the mods to me
no
it was running at 4gb ram and 10% cpu like
:thonk:
30 mods ago
so it went from like 530 - 560
Modrinth
spark - Minecraft Mod
spark is a performance profiler for Minecraft clients, servers and proxies.
profile it
ah
so
first of all i can't do that
(i can't even move the game is so laggy)
(much less type a command)
but second of all
I think this is uh. helpful
297 errors ๐
lmfao
hm
reduce render dist or whatever settings to minimum to ease some workloads off
and then try to get a profile
so you can analyze whats that pesky process using cpu
fair
can't rn but I will in 40~ ish
ty for the help I'll ping when
will do
its so cooked boss
ran /spark profiler stop 6 minutes ago
it has not uploaded.
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spark
spark is a performance profiler for Minecraft clients, servers, and proxies.
๐ Spark profile attached:
spark
spark is a performance profiler for Minecraft clients, servers, and proxies.
๐ Spark profile attached:
doesnt look horrible
you still have a somewhat okay avg mspt
u lookin at the same thing as me
check the second one LOL
i would kinda expect gc to be slow with this many mods
LMFAO
WTF
128%?
I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT LOLLL
:marketplace:
oh dude
this doin NUMBERS
that aint right
hm
ok so this is cool and all
but it's not telling me at all what the issue is
I was running wonderfully a few mods ago
should I just binary search
uh i guess i could provide a spark from my server as reference
partially because i cant read one ๐
I'm aware of how sparks work lol dw
it's a neat mod but to be perfectly honest it is borderline useless outside of identifying mob issues
it's excellent at pinpointing like. individual mobs and individual chunks
spark
spark is a performance profiler for Minecraft clients, servers, and proxies.
๐ Spark profile attached:
LMFAO
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thats fucking amazing holy shit
bros cpu is in hyperdrive
IT
IS THE FUCKING
SPONGES ?
DDUDE
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THIS FUCKING MOD IS DOING IT
LMFAO
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IT'S CAUSING AN INFINITE LOOP OF ATTEMPTING TO FORCE FLOW
ON A NONEXISTANT BLOCK
LMFAOOO
what the actual fuck
I doubt that was the only issue but I'm gonna check for more
dude I like
you gotta realize
I'm no
Top Tier Server Guy
but finding random causes of lag in a modpack with 600+
that is my SPECIALTY
im questioning how inefficient this mod is
dude its pretty fuckign amazing how bad that has to be
do you keep like
a list of authors you don't trust
cuz I do
and fusz is now on it ๐
i dont ยฏ\_(ใ)_/ยฏ
but I have a development server to catch issues before shit goes loose into production
and I do keep a list of mods that my players love
I generally only play a server with my friends for a few months before we get bored
so I'm generally working on the whole new one as we play the old one
I've made 30~ total over the course of 7~ years i think atp
same case for me tbh
but ive just been forcing them to the same old world
bored, want to restart?
move to somewhere else with no items
crazy
true
we just get these big plans at the start of each season and never finishing them before everyone is bored
so...
yeah I got a ton of completionists in my server
like. I have people who genuinely try to finish the Block Index
as in. grab Every Single Individual Block
At Least Once
(there are millions in my servers)
(tens of millions)
my server became a mostly singleplayer world ยฏ\_(ใ)_/ยฏ
engagement is hard
yeah
its really really hard without exponential increasing effort for exponentially decreasing reward
this is our statistics
consecutive seasons really sucked and lacked that big "initial energy" where everyone was excited
spark
spark is a performance profiler for Minecraft clients, servers, and proxies.
๐ Spark profile attached:
:clueless:
wtf
seems like you need to allocate more ram to it
LMFAO
no I don't dw
it's not a ram issue there's a memory leak
a rapidly expanding memory leak
I just need to patch it up
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lemme run a profiler to show ytou what this looks like when it doesn't suck
spark
spark is a performance profiler for Minecraft clients, servers, and proxies.
๐ Spark profile attached:
thats good
409 mods btw
not including libraries
running a ton of mods doesn't inherently just mean shittier performance
:marketplace:
you just gotta pick your battles and realize what mods try to do the same shit and overcomplicate certain processes
and as performance mods improve you get to push the boundaries a lil more every day
it's kinda epic
not if your players gets bored after 2 weeks
true
very true
sad thing is you need players to get players
uhhhhhh
somewhat
I think you just need tryhards
I am blessed to have a few of those (myself included)
and because I have a seperate rig I own in my own house I never pay for server upkeep
so I can just keep it up 24/7 forever free
sucks all my players got addicted to fortnite or something
lmfao
how old are your players what
I got 20+ y/o's minimum
i honestly do not know ยฏ\_(ใ)_/ยฏ
probably averages around 16 or smth
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it messes with structures a bit too much and it hits build height often which makes like. Actually playing it a little frustrating
its an epic find though tysm
Ye, Iโve found mountains can reach like 400 in y level