Should I spent 97 Euros at Project Orion ?
I'm always wanted to have a moderate Java development skills but never passed the "beginner" term in my head
Just found this project and thay charge 97 euros LIFETIME for a "more than a course" experience
Is that worth it or nah ?
89 Replies
no
lol thats quick
but why tho
because you can learn with youtube and stack overflow just as quickly and efficiently
i am entirely self taught with zero dollars spent
in order to actually get yourself to learn you have to have a project you want to do
something you actually will enjoy
then you'll make it, really shitt-ily
and then you'll rewrite it
and then you'll realize that rewrite is shit
and eventually you'll get to a place where your code quality is actually good
what even is project orion
i've never heard of it and google isn't helping
https://mineacademy.org/project-orion?st=bbb&sc=boss_overview
here's a link if you want
but I would want to learn Java without worrying to much about my undiagnose ADHD and any other mental illness(lol), having a teacher is better for me than doing research on myself personally
MineAcademy
How To Make Minecraft Plugins - A Complete Tutorial (2023)
Make plugins for Bukkit, Spigot and Paper with our 20-day tutorial. Including minigames, custom monsters, particles, NMS and so much more!
Well you definitely shouldn't follow a course dedicated to Minecraft for starters
Once you learn Java you know how to use every API ever with just 10 minutes of reading it's documentation
If you learn the Spigot API, depending on how they teach it, that may be it
also I have no idea what these two things have to do with each other
this is a mess
Oh my god this page goes on forever
stock photo???
Bro described his life on a minecraft development website
Seems legit tho lol
No
the guys kinda insane if you read the website
Yeah he basically interpreted his life thru his website
yeah
eughhhh
the TM
really don't like this
tf is this static abuse 😢
ewww
ewww
ewww
honestly not sure if this is really static abuse
its just dumb
when functional java developer certificate
these don't line up
excessive use of utils for seemingly every little thing
not shocking considering they seem to be basing their entire course on the idea that people will use their foundation thing though
oof
so it just really not worth it
you missed the part above it
they make you use a bespoke framework
https://github.com/kangarko/Foundation
GitHub
GitHub - kangarko/Foundation: Foundation™ helps you create highly c...
Foundation™ helps you create highly customized Minecraft plugins (based on Spigot/Paper API) that support multiple MC versions. - kangarko/Foundation
obviously, we always need a plugin to have a hardcoded list that includes the plural for torpedo in every plugin we make
not just foundation but Foundation™️
this guys gonna invent
@Trademark or smth to allow you to put ™️ after every class namewell he doesn't own the trademark obv
brb putting ™️ in all my code to keep it safe from copyright
public boolean code™️
if (codetrademark == true)
return true
else;
call police
who needs licensing with this simple check :sunglas:
pretty sure apple beat him to it… (since ios2/macos 10.0; released in 2001)
https://developer.apple.com/documentation/foundation
Apple Developer Documentation
Foundation | Apple Developer Documentation
Access essential data types, collections, and operating-system services to define the base layer of functionality for your app.
rip bozo
nvm these Apple randos didnt put ™️ so it does not count
maybe he tradmarked Foundation™️
so its actually Foundation™️™️
del nhé e
tự học trong 1 ngày là đủ 👍
Thanks for the Vietnamese I guess
lol
well...
what.
I just realized that he doesn't even preload images on that site
so you just scroll down and images just randomly pop in
i'm genuinely curious how javascript anti-piracy works
the wording and the design of that site is a mess, i'm not even gonna mention that
i genuinely wish any of these meant anything man 😭
I love how the website yesterday had a discount that expired in 24 hours
and today there's a discount that expires in 2 days
is that not great
you're getting a very good deal clearly
because there is a discount
@Jenkins Did you see this testimonial?
https://youtu.be/7tRWkBmwGMk
Matej (kangarko)
YouTube
NMS tablist Minecraft plugin preview — Mikolaj got a web developmen...
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Mikolaj shows his NMS tablist MInecraft plugin he made. The plugin contains advanced NMS Minecraft plugin features such as per-player header and footer ...
it’s been on a constant discount for the past year or something
no
get learnspigot for 9.99 by asking in their discord or watch kody simpson for free on youtube
it's horrendous
matej (the one who teaches the course) is banned from spigotmc, hated by basically everyone, and the course locks you using their framework foundation preventing you from being able to make real projects without it
Im late to the party but Im a professional dev working as a dev in a pretty important medical company for my country and all learned 98% of the shit I know by myself. And I have ADHD, Autism, and other handicaps (all medically diagnosed).
You don't need overpriced courses for programming.
If you want to be good at programming, courses will only get you so far. You need curiosity and will to learn and relearn every day. It's not a set knowledge.
Go check any Java tutorial on YT. You will learn if you stick to them and try out things for yourself
Isn't this course from the guy who was banned from spigotmc?
yes
banned for a 645 word advertisement in the resource update section for chat control
afaik the advertisement was for his plugin development course
Found the post, apparently it was on multiple occasions:
install a program on the host machine that bricks their intellij
THE GOAT!
🤘🤘
"The only way to become a DEV on my server"
a DEV
what does DEV stand for
there is no way that's $90
wait i thought that was included ig they are just scamming people
Diversity Equity and V-bucks
if that’s 90 dollars i have 40k in intellij keys 😭
it is, they’re trying to justify the cost of project orion
wacky
i want to know why project orion got 4 month keys and learnspigot got 6 month keys though
even jetbrains thinks you should go with other solutions
Hey quick thing
Project Orion is kinda dookie
What id recommend instead is...
https://www.udemy.com/course/develop-minecraft-plugins-java-programming/
Basically an everything you need to know course
@Aretzera
🔥 🔥 🔥
Couldn't recommend enough, that's how I learnt. Ask in their discord for a discount code (9.99) to bypass udemy's absurd pricing strategies
Technically, I am biased as the creator is my business partner, but I would recommend it regardless. Make sure to join the discord, it's super helpful with basically any issue you have
doesn't seem too bad
Yea not bad but will completely change across devices
I've heard of someone buying it for 150 USD
tf
lmao
what the hell
it's $15 on my phone
that's hilarious
and $14 on my ipad
literally 3 different prices
https://learnspigot.com/999sale
There we go, forgot about that
@Loudbook clicked the link and got like 12-14$
while I clicked and got ~70$ when changing the currency lol
Just look it up on udemy yourself
It's all the same
I will try yours and see what happen
Thanks for the recommendation :>
hope my purchase won't go to waste
would be £110 over here
with that being said, I only pay for idea and am paying like $6.50/mo
https://learnspigot.com/999sale
ah you already purchased
alright, good luck. it’s a very good course that you just bought
I’d say the only “real” advantage to these courses is that there are 2 zoom calls per week with Matej where he can help you with your plugin if your code isn’t working and the 4 month JetBrains subscription. But I really don’t think it’s worth the price
1. Help channel in learnspigot is going to be a great resource, some of the most helpful people I've met
2. Learnspigot is 1/10th the price and comes with a 6 month key
I've gotten help within 30 seconds of my post opening, legendary staff over there. Obviously that's not 100% of the time but it's not infrequent to have instant responses
Damn, when i’ve got some more free time I’ll check out Learnspigot
(you can get another key if you ask nicely)
Highly recommend it over project orion. Either go the learnspigot route for 9.99 https://learnspigot.com/999sale or go the free route with kody simpson on youtube
There's nothing wrong with the free route, Kody is a great guy
kody is a terrible person
but his videos are fine
so don't give him any ad revenue
I don’t give youtubers ad revenue, I don’t want to be forced to give people money if they don’t deserve it. I’d much rather buy through affiliate links, buy merch, donate on stream, etc…
most of them deserve it
kody does not
How so?
did he do something wrong
He's a right winged homophobe
Who is overall a jerk of a person
huh interesting, never knew that. I've never talked to him much but everything about him I've heard has been pretty positive
good to know
i feel like u should probably be adding "oh im part of the organization that this course is part of" to all these messages tbf
ive heard good things about the course in the past but saying it once and including the word "technically" is a bit silly when the first thing in your about me is a website for which LearnSpigot is the first linked product
like its a good course from what ive heard but "technically" is pulling a lot of weight there
his entire host was also designed for users of learnspigot iirc
I'm not a part of LS anymore
And the statements I said are unbiased imo. I do truly believe what I said and I stand behind it. I do see where you're coming from though and I will make sure to specify it more in the future
To start out, yes