KDE Bazzite keeps freezing
I'm using KDE Bazzite and the system keeps freezing. It seems to be more likely to happen when the CPU is under load, such as while gaming or when switching windows. But it can also happen rarely while doing low-CPU tasks. It also seems to happen in bursts, with some times it happens a lot and some times it doesn't happen for days, although that could be anything. Sometimes it just stutters for a bit, but when it properly freezes, I can leave it for an hour and it won't go again unless I hard reset the system. Just an hour or so ago it happened when I switched windows into Warframe to play with My partners. I hard reset, loaded the game up again, and the system froze on launch. Had to boot to Windows instead out of fear it would happen a third time.
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i see, okay, well i guess cleaning + maybe refreshing thermal paste would be good, 99% sure this will stabilize your system
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this sounds like system instability due to CPU temperature. I'm unaware of any real way to monitoring temp other than using something like prometheus (which can be overkill for this situation) or
sensors which idk if we can use that to monitor temps in real time
is this a brand new system? did you put it together?
oh and i guess to ask the obvious, does this happen at all with windows? can you run a CPU benchmark on windows to see what the CPU temp looks like on there?This never happens on Windows. Is cpubenchmark.net good?
i think running a CPU heavy game and looking at an overlay output might be good enough too if that is easier
I built this computer a decade ago, and have probably replaced every single part except the SATA cables by now
ah okay, interesting, what are the specs?
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i just checked this out, this and with hwmonitor might be good, but if you're saying this never happens on windows, then maybe its not temp related like im thinking and its something else
I think you're right. The fans are blowing pretty hard when it happens
The question is why Bazzite makes My CPU run like this and Windows doesn't
is it really dusty? and when was the last time you messed with the CPU?
It's pretty dusty.
The CPU... I don't remember. 2018 maybe...?
thermal paste tends to dry up, but would be good to confirm if temps are indeed an issue, finding out what type of CPU it is, and also what temps its reaching and see if the CPU is rated for those temps
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-9400F CPU @ 2.90GHz
good can of compressed air can do wonders if there are dust bunnies anywhere near the exhaust, my sister was suffering from artifacting, sprayed the GPU with canned air, cleared the gaming ghosts and the artifacting resolved itself
so for this CPU, everyone is saying the critical junction temperature is 100C
so just confirm you aren't reaching those type of temps, id say the CPU should hover around 70C under load to be on the safe side, if its getting toastier than that, i'd give the computer a spray of air to clear out dust, and try refreshing thermal paste, cleaning off the old paste with some IPA, and using something like
arctic MX-4
Rebooting into Windows now
I'm in
alrighty, so yea, cpubench site you showed me should do the trick, run hwmonitor at the same time
run hwmonitor let it idle for a few minutes so you get a good baseline for idle temps
then execute the benchmark, and see how high those temps get
Whoopsies
I have not run the benchmark yet
oh wow... okay, let it idle a bit longer
maybe like 5 min should be good
So maybe Windows is throttling performance to maintain a safe CPU temperature, and Bazzite, well...
Oh BTW I live in Australia and it's summer
And I live in a student dorm with no air conditioning
yea so there might be differences in how the OS is handling thermal throttling, could be that windows is more robust in this regard, idk enough about the lower level details to tell you for sure
it wouldn't surprise me if linux is unable to handle this as graciously, windows probably just starts shutting things down, or the CPU gets throttled significantly to keep up
however, not all is lost, i bet you if you dust the PC and change the thermal paste it will run like new
i have an old i7-7700k machine from the same year as yours that's still chugging along
have you ran the benchmark yet?
No
ah okay that looks normal
50C idle is really good
try the benchmark now
is this a multicore test?
seems like only a single core is being stressed
however, 85C is a bit concerning
Nah, I showed a bad screenshot. Got above 90.
On all of them
oh man yea, so i was reading about the effectiveness of air cooling
It's doing some graphical tests that remind Me of 2001 a space Odyssey now
might want to power it down to prevent any damage and clean it
how hot would you say ambient temps are right now?
26 degrees.
It's night
Nice and cool for sleeping
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i see, okay, well i guess cleaning + maybe refreshing thermal paste would be good, 99% sure this will stabilize your system
i imagine you won't be able to do this until tomorrow
Thank you very much
Yeah I'll need to go to Bunnings for canned air and thermal paste
wish we still had electronics stores around here, i miss radioshack and frys 😢
alright, good luck, let me know how it goes!
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ah okay, sounds like home depot, they don't sell PC parts there though haha
Bunnings doesn't do PC parts but I bet they have canned air and they might have thermal paste
We also have PLE which does PC parts and Jaycar which does hobby electronics
It's doing 72 degrees max on the same benchmark test
ah nice, try booting into bazzite now
Much quieter so far
I can run Warframe with the latest Proton version!
awesome 🙂
I posted last week about a issue very similar to this. I'm experiencing freezes on bazzite kde aswell. This does not happen with gnome bazzite only kde. Basically when I'm playing a game after about 5 minutes it freezes completely and has to be hard reset this also occurs on the desktop aswell. Hardware is a ally x few months old.
i believe kde bazzite and gnome bazzite are virtually the same, in gamemode especially since the desktop environment are not running, only gamescope, maybe a service present in kde is interfering where it isn’t on gnome? would be useful to post dmesg and journal logs from kde, though id probably open a separate thread since this issue was originally for overheating