Having trouble installing DH on 1.21.4 (Lunar Client)
im very lost, how do I succesfully install the nightly 1.21.4 build onto Lunar Client? ive tried a few stuff but none worked and im very lost, is DH maybe not compatible with Lunar Client or something? I really need help lol
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Lunar is not compatible
https://discord.com/channels/881614130614767666/881614131877269586/1316492983167746079
tldr, just please use a different launcher
Or contact Lunar support for help
oh
is there no way to edit out the mods that cause these incompatibilities?
or anything?
nope
which is why lunar sucks
dang
im very used to lunar by now so that sucks
its not even that a mod they ship is incompatible. for some reason they ship an older version of that mod
if you could just update it it would work
Modrinth has a nice intuitive GUI so you can try switching to it
-# Though Modrinth servers are down, so idk if you can use it in this moment in time
could maybe contacting lunar support or something be of help?
sure
you can try
what could they even do tho
but im still gonna advice you to use a different minecaft launcher
what part is down? i can access modrinth.com perfectly fine
im not really familiar with any other ones, other than having heard of them and seen a very little amount of content on them lol
API and DBs
oof
Modrinth status
Welcome to Modrinth status page for real-time and historical data on system performance.
try the modrinth app, see if you like it
All mods and other stuff 404s
dont you have to install everything manually with modrinth?
well, once they're not down anymore at least
does modrinth go down often? lol
just hit "download" a few times and youre done
never seen it happen before
so not often at least
There are premade optimization modpacks in the launcher
Also all the mods automatically filter and install in correct folders in the launcher as well
idrk what mods I want tho and thats why lunar is just so easy to use, but I guess thats a pretty dumb excuse
if you feel the need for a mod, you search it up, hit download, and you're done
what does iris exactly do? im very unfamiliar with some mods
it is a shader loader
it loads shaders into the game
ah
I dont need shaders
then you dont need iris
im gonna give modrinth a try maybe
alright
but how do you install the nightly build exactly? from what I understand you extract the file, and move the .jar file to the mods file in .minecraft?
and thats it?
correct
ah, idk if this is normal but at first I didnt have a mods folder and had to make one of my own
will it still work?
that means something went wrong
If the pure performance modpacks won't be enough here are some lists and info that might help:
- Modrinth tutorial: https://discord.com/channels/881614130614767666/881614131877269586/1252525965758955634
- Performance mods: https://discord.com/channels/881614130614767666/1266678234104336417/1266751519642882080
- Immersive mods: https://discord.com/channels/881614130614767666/1256089075996426260/1256551092725223467
- https://github.com/TheUsefulLists/UsefulMods
- https://optifine.alternatives.lambdaurora.dev/
- https://wiki.fabricmc.net/community:optifine_alternatives
were you perhaps looking in the .minecraft folder while using lunar?
uh
I have opened minecraft from the default launcher before, so its not like ive never used vanilla
if you're using modrinth, you can easily click this button to take you to the right place
if thats what you mean?
im kinda confsued
nevermind
Have you installed a mod loader?
uh, no (?)
then thats why you didnt see a mods folder
only 3rd party stuff ive installed relating to minecraft is lunar
thats really it
Vanilla MC does not support mods
You need to either install:
Fabric, Quilt, NeoForge or Forge
Or use Modrinth APP or Prism launcher that install it for youohh
I get it now
lunar ships fabric, with no option to change it, but the modrinth app lets you easily pick a mod loader while making a new instance
I recommend fabric (same as lunar)
More performance and qol mods avaible for it
hmm
thank you guys for the help
im gonna give modrinth a try
np!
I added the solved tag
huh
why isnt it letting me create a new instance
its greyd out and whenever I click on it nothing happens
does this have to do anything with it?
is it because modrinth is down,, LMAO
Modrinth should be back up i think
Im curious
What if I tried downloading the 1.21.1 or 1.21 version of DH on lunar?
Would that work since its older version? Maybe it syncs correctly with iris since you said iris on lunar is outdated?
If you use dh 2.1.2 it should work I think
Or you use the modrinth app and all you're problems are gone
Fair lol
But lunar is so much simpler
With modrinth I have to find the mods I like/want between probably dozens of others or something and stuff
Idrk
I'll still give modrinth a try tho
Are you requiring that many mods?
Lunar also doesn't change the game that much right
Ehh
I use fps shower mod, keyboard shower mod (like wasd and the mouse buttons), ping shower mod, minimap, waypoints, fov mod, fullbright, zoom
Maybe some others too I forgot to lis
Fov mod? What does that do?
Im not really familiar with any big good mods other than like sodium and optifine LMAO
You basically have more customization over fov in specific scenarios
Althought I only use it to get to 110 fov
For whatever reason the vanilla setting didnt seem to work?
So I used lunar's fov
Fabric api
Cloth config
Sodium
Xaero's minimap
Optionally xaero's world map
Sodium extra
Any fullbight mod
Zoomify or logicalzoom
Probably my fault on something but idrk
That covers most of it
I dont know any fullbright mod lmao im very unknowledgable on big minecraft mods
And ones a lot of people us
Im more of a client guy which has mods preinstalled like lunar
Modrinth
Search mods | Fullbright
Search and browse thousands of Minecraft mods on Modrinth with instant, accurate search results. Our filters help you quickly find the best Minecraft mods.
Ah
I forgot that existed
Thanks
Np!
What about waypoints?
I do use those a lot
Waystones is the first thing that comes to mind
Modrinth
Waystones - Minecraft Mod
Teleport back to activated waystones. For Survival, Adventure or Servers.
Teleport back?
Btw by mods I dont mean like gameplay mods
I mean client side
Just for context
Oh, I think xaero's minimap and world map covers that
Im not interested in playing pokemon in minecraft type thing
Allows waypoints
Ah
Nice
Whats the difference between the minimap and the world map?
Sorry for having you guys deal with me so much
No problem
Well it's in the name
The minimap only adds a minimap in the corner of your screen
The world map adds a map you can open
Isnt the world map better then?
Iirc the world map is a addon to the minimap
One is not better, they don't try to achieve the same thing
You can just install both, and you'll get the best experience imo
Does the world map save all progress even after disconnecting and reconnecting in the server? Or like how exactly does it work
It saves it to the disc, assuming you don't fly over the terrain with too much speed
So it does save all progress?
Sounds like it
it should at least
Im assuming it wont show parts of the map youve explored before having download the mod
I don't think it will, but I have no idea
I noticed that some loading/processing takes place only when you have your worldmap opened and zoomed-in
Then move around the map on the edges and some additional terrain might show up, but IDK if it takes the saved vanilla chunks from disc
I forgot to mention I also use a direction mod on lunar
What's that?
Ignore the red and blue dots idk what those are
cant find a good replacement for that
maybe this? https://modrinth.com/mod/gui-compass
Modrinth
GUI Compass - Minecraft Mod
🧠Shows direction and coordinates in the GUI/HUD with a compass in the inventory.
this might also interest you:
https://github.com/sootysplash/Fabric-mods-to-replace-Lunar-client
ok so
I downloaded the 1.21 version of DH
which is 2.1.2
now how do I put it in minecraft,, (specifically for lunar)
thing is
I dont have a mods folder in my .minecraft folder
yes I went to %appdata%
but theres no mods folder, do I create a new one of my own or?
ping me when you answer btw if you can thanks
ok nvm I think im just gonna use modrinth
You can check if there is any
.lunar folder or something, most custom launcher use their own paths for MC, but some, like Modrinth also give you a convenient visible button to go thereYeah I put all my mods in yesterday and its all entirely fine
Thank you guys
Only problem is that DH is pretty heavy and causes quite a bit of stutters and such even after having read the faq and done the optimization nessary
Maybe thats because it was singleplayer because multiplayer is usually running better because singleplayer uses your hardware for everything
So then singleplayer is heavier
You can reduce the CPU load
How much RAM did you allocate to MC?
You might want to add some GC/JVM tuning flags
https://discord.com/channels/881614130614767666/1304910897658986570/1305234534492803165
Here are some flag sets
12 out of 24
Looks good, take a look the the tuning flags if you find time, that should reduce the stutter a bit
what do those do and how do I add them,,
woops
what I wanted to say is
theres no good durability viewer on modrinth
ðŸ˜
oh nvm, I think I found a good one
I pasted a wrong link
Check it now
this?
You add them next to the RAM allocation slider
Yes
it takes me to the same place
Maybe by DC broke then
takes me here
Yeah, that is the thing
oh
nice
huh
where,,
JAVA arguments
so I guess im just gonna add the first one since you said its one of the best ones
so
im curious about what those do tho?
im also very confused on something, how is it that some of the mods listed here have a modrinth page on like google but they dont show up when I search them up on modrinth search bar?
Eperimental VM enables more tuning options
ZGC is a new alternative Java garbage collector
PreTouch changes how ZGC works
Timestamps decrease log accuracy for performance I think
Async reduces stutter if you have a log of logs I think
You would have to Google them to know the details
Modrinth servers might be down again, or your filter hide the mods because they were not updated or are only for forge/fabric
ive got no filters on
Then IDK
lol
ok nvm I found the way to get them on modrinth
just redirect from web browser to modrinth app
kronhud's latest version is 1.21.1 tho and I wanna play 1.21.4
would it still work or?
nvm its 1.20.1
💀
Mods take some time to update, I’m still waiting for some to get a 1.20.1 version
If you want to play with mods you usually don’t want the latest MC version
The main modded MC version are:
- 1.21.1
- 1.20.1
- 1.19.2
- 1.16.5
- 1.12.2
- 1.8.x
- 1.7.10
1.19.2 will probably disapear from that list at some point and 1.21.1 is new enough that a lot of big mods haven’t updated yet
so would it be fine if I used a mod which of latest version is outdated/not the version I want?
or nah?
If it runs it runs if it does not it won’t
Worth a try
fair
why cant I just add it on my already made instance
???
ive tried typing in the exact name of my instance and it doesnt do anything
for whatever reason it needs a new one
welp, I guess I just downloaded the .jar file itself
ok, its good I guess
why ðŸ˜
Go in your instance and click add content
The mod might not have a version that your instance is running
ah
also DH is confusing lol
sorry btw I just keep forgetting its a pg13 server
ok so
ive found why this crash happens
for whatever reason whenever I enable the tooltipfix mod on modrinth it crashes like here
so I guess its just an outdated mod
DH is so confusing
how is it that I have 32 render distance in vanilla, extreme quality preset on DH itself and this is how a village tower a few blocks away from me looks,,
like 75ish blocks to be precise
am I doing something wrong or is this normal?
/overdraw
Hole at the edge of vanilla Render Distance, especially during movement:
This is caused by either vanilla terrain not loading in fast enough, or shader's incorrect overdraw prevention implementation or configuration (if you use one)
Some world gen speed improvement can be found when adding these two mods, but the affect will be minor:
- Noisium
- Faster Random
There is another mod that may help:
C2ME. However, it can decrease DH generation speed by up to 35%.
The easiest fix is to move slower and/or ignore it. This hole is most visible while moving over not generated (by vanilla) terrain. Moving over that terrain every subsequent time may not create the hole. And moving slower will give MC more time to load the chunks as you go.
If none of that helped, you can also tune the overdraw prevention, look at the third section to know how.
Low quality full blocks behind and around non-full block, e.g. fences or ladders:
This is intended behavior, to prevent holes in the world while you move, DH will overlap with some part of the vanilla terrain.
How much of the terrain is covered is determined by the overdraw prevention:
- 1.0 will mean DH LODs start where vanilla chunks end.
- 0.0 will mean that DH render everywhere starting from your position.
To fix this, you can either:
- Increase your vanilla RD, which will move the DH LODs further from you.
- Tune the Overdraw Prevention setting, see the next section to know how.
Where to edit the overdraw prevention setting?
Overdraw prevention setting can be edited inside the DH config under:
Advanced > Graphics > Advanced Graphics
But if you use shaders, they will override and take control of the overdraw prevention.
In that case, check the shader's settings, if overdraw prevention is not there, contact the shader devs or change the shader you use.its the second section
no wait
you just dont have 32 render distance
are you on a server?
yes
multiplayer
I quite literally do lol
how is my render distance at 1024 and this is how far it goes,,
Servers have their own vanilla RD limit, only bobby mod can allow you to bypass it, but you have to explore this terrain first
Bobby is also really performance intensive
Also /server
Distant Generation doesn't work in multiplayer, meaning DH won't be able to generate LODs for chunks outside the vanilla render distance.
Instead, as you travel around the world, LODs will be generated for areas you've visited.
In the next update, DH 2.3, you will be able to add DH to your server granted it's running a compatible mod/plugin loader (Fabric, (Neo)Forge, Bukkit and their derivatives). This will allow the server to generate LODs and send them to the client, making distant generation possible on multiplayer.
If you wish to try 2.3 early, read everything in this thread: https://discord.com/channels/881614130614767666/1285883332768563284
Keep in mind that this build is still experimental, we do not encourage using it on large servers until further testing.
Distant generation won’t work on most multiplayer servers
So you have to explore the chunks first to see them with DH
ah
but then why are they so low quality despite the settings being on like
maximum quality preset
and balanced cpu load
and its only like 75 blocks away
this is the best quality DH can render
That is because of the server vanilla RD limit and this: https://discord.com/channels/881614130614767666/1316780685683326986/1317465792576491541 section 2
it intentionally renders at a lower quality so your pc doesnt explode with higher render distances
You can increase noise texture steps and intensity to fake higher quality
Tuning fog might help
Shaders also can make this less noticeable
ah
so I cant make it any better than this and I also have to actually explore the land that I want rendered in by DH for it to produce LODs
unfortunately yes
will these lods save after sessions?
for example
yes
I play for 2 hours, close minecraft, join back in the server, are the lods still gonna be there?
you can get a larger render distance on servers with a mod like bobby, so that might be worth checking out
yes
interesting
thats fine
https://discord.com/channels/881614130614767666/1316780685683326986/1317467301523755100
There are a lot of settings that can make it look better for the eye
nah
its fine
do you guys know of any good client mods that show ping, fps and keystrokes maybe?
cant find any
I tried klonhud but it was crashing my minecraft on launch
sodium extra can show fps i think
so it didnt work
something like this?
https://modrinth.com/mod/proper-ping
oh prank, thats not up to date
Modrinth
Better Ping Display [Fabric] - Minecraft Mod
Adds a configurable numerical ping display to the player list
what I meant is more so on the screen while playing and not having to press tab
like a little box
like lunar if you know what that looks like
cant find any like that
I also need fullbright,,
.
why do you want that though?
whats the value it adds?
same for the keyboard strokes
I can see how much ping I have?
but why
I dont really know, im just used to it and you never know, if you ever have any issue you can see whether your button presses are registering or not
for example maybe youre pressing w and its not working
and you can see that
have you ever had that happening?
I think it has happened to me before on other games
i suggest you try to play without it and see if you miss it
thats a good idea
but I'd still like the ping and fps mods
.
i dont see why pressing tab to see ping is a bad thing though
isnt it better if your screen is less cluttered?
e
eh
its way easier and simpler to just have it on the screen
I dont really mind
oh yeah mb
video settings, extras, show fps
hm
weird how my fps isnt even reaching like 130fps territory
You can try getting more performance mods: https://discord.com/channels/881614130614767666/1316780685683326986/1316782965560442942
Or try to reduce the CPU load in DH settings
why is that not rendering,, it looks like someone ate it off
its 624 render distance btw
that too LMAO
because you havent been there yet
it looks weird lmao
funny
yep
whatever lol
DH is looking very very insane
this is impressive
sorry for having you guys deal with me for like days lol
no problem lol
I hope I wasnt a burden or something
one less lunar user is worth the trouble
lmao
ok dude
ive crashed like more than 5 times now
and cpu load is at minimum
the second I move forward with my boat it crashes
lmao
how much ram do you have allocated?
12 out of 24
okay so thats not the issue
can you send logs?
/logs
You should send your
latest.log file to provide additional useful information.
Logs are usually located in the .minecraft/logs directory.
On Windows: %appdata%\.minecraft\logs
On Linux: ~/.minecraft/logs
On Mac: ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft/logs
Please upload the file to mclo.gs instead of sending the raw file. This makes reading the contents of the file a lot easier and improves the chances of you getting the help needed.
After uploading the file, click on Save and send the link.these are logs from like day 1 of the server which was like 2 weeks ago
or something
???
there is no crash in the logs
so either you sent the wrong one, or its crashing without logging it
here
its from modrinth
I think this is it
it has the correct date and time im pretty sure
yeah it does
its caused by boatiview
💀
man I need that mod!!
its so handy cuz im doing a megamap
do I have to remove it?
its this one yes
It works for me so is might be crashing with some other mod or because you are using different MC version then the mod was made for
open the instance and click the trash icon
Either remove it or do a /binary search to find the potential other mod that is incompatible with it
Try a binary search and figure out which mod is causing it.
So disable half of the mods, see if issue is still there, if yes disable half again etc etc until you find the mod that's causing the issue.
I dont think there is any other mod that causes it
but yea, you are probably using a version made for a different mc version
i had the same p[roblem with this mod
yeah its like 1.20 or something
sadly
yep
oh well
1.20.X so all minor 1.20 versions (including 1.20.1)
guess gotta remove it then
well im on 1.21.4 so I guess its reasonable not to work
the second I moved with my boat the game crashed its insane lol
how are you adding mods then? because if you were using the modrinth app properly you wouldnt even see that mod listed
yeah, sometimes 1.20.1 mods wouldn't even run on 1.20.2, and going to the 1.21 would be a miracle
some of the mods I downloaded from firefox (the .jar file) and just hoped it would work even if it was for an older version
why are you downloading from the internet
the modrinth app has a build in downloader
I know but I couldnt find some of the mods on modrinth app search bar
because it auto filters to your mod loader and mc version
you can turn that off though
no need to search the internet
1. Some mods like e.g. better fps render distance is not on Modrinth only on CurseForge
2. Even if a mod is not marked as compatible with newer MC versions there is still a chance it will work. When modding I was usually to lazy to check if my 1.20.1 mod worked on 1.20.2 or 1.20.4 and when I finaly tested it it worked with no issues. If you really want some mod it is worth a try to see if it works. Though yeah, you can just turn off the filters, but you have to do it every time you exit mod desc, it gets tedious, it is easier to use the web for that
yeah
I think some of my mods are actually of older mc versions
but still work
also some mods are indeed not on modrinth and only on curseforg
some mods which I downloaded were like that
yea fair
I do wish I could play DH on lunar still but modrinth is equally as good
im glad I got to learn about other mods and modrinth and whatever else
thank you guys for all the help
why does this happen?
im assuming its the fullbright
np!
known issue, not something you can fix though iirc
alright
Hmm
So imagine this
Im somewhere right
And its all loaded in
So then I increase the render distance on DH
Why doesnt it load more and like load further?
It takes time, if you double the RD you quadruple the time required
And the generation stops when it hits your DH RD
Ah
doesnt work sadly
its 1.21.3 and it crashes upon game launch saying its for 1.21.3 and doesnt work for 1.21.4, basically
Oh I didn't pay attention to that
Oof
yeah
oh well
ok I found a mod that shows both ping and fps
Oh nice
Do you guys know any mod which shows potions crafting recipes while in the brewing stand menu?
I think I had found a mod like that but it didnt work?
You can get a resourcepack for that
I recommend Vanilla Tweaks
Vanilla Tweaks - Resource Packs
The picker page for Vanilla Tweaks Resource Packs