Spier and mackay sizing
Looking for help with sizing a suit for my dad
His measurements are:
Shoulder: 19
Chest: 40.5
Waist: 38
Pant waist: 36
The suit he has now is a little big in the chest but it measures.
45 chest
42 waist
19 shoulder
The spier and mackay sizing is as follows in the images,
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I’d like to make the tailored fit work if possible as that’s the cheaper red label suit
My concern is the chest on the 40 should fit.. but the waist is a 39 and his measure is a 38. They do advertise 1.5 inch of let out for the waist though
This was the suit I gave measures for. I believe it’s too big and fits poorly
Too big in chest for sure
Honestly hard to tell much from the photo. Those measurements might be close enough but the only way to tell will be to try it on. I forget what other restrictions you had for this in terms of time and budget tho
Budget for him he says $500
Time is about 2 months
Let me try to find a different photo
You just need to make a decision big dog.
1. Buy from Spier and see if it fits/get it tailored
2. Go to department stores/wherever they sell suits and try a bunch on
Those are your two options. Pick one and execute. You're losing time not learning anything by reposting this question for the past however many months. No one here can really tell you whether the suit will fit or not.
True. I mean I’ve only been asking this question for a day or so lol
He usually fits a 42R in dept store suits but.. the spier sizing seems very roomy in the chest
A 42 R would fit his waist prob but would be 5 inches over his chest measure size
Is it better to be too big in the chest? Or too tight in the waist
It is nearly always easier to make a too big measurement smaller than it is to make a too small measurement bigger. Extra fabric has to come from somewhere.
Even in the chest? From what I’ve researched the chest and shoulders can’t really be touched?
With tailoring
I mean without huge expenses at least
If you have a tailor you like then ask them
But too small is almost never going to be able to be expanded without great expense as well
True I get that
Trying to avoid anything other than easy hems tbh
Then just go to a store IRL and try suits on and take good pics
I did!
Didn’t find anything I liked the materials and fit of
Fit sure.. but they had poor materials for the price
I liked how this fit mostly
But the material was like 50% wool only
For $350
From my recollection…fit above everything you could have the suit made of gold if it doesn’t fit it’ll be ass
Bread I’m ngl at your price point you don’t have much room to agonize over materials
This is a special occasion suit right
Who gives a shit what it’s made of as long as it looks good on the body
No one’s gonna judge you for a “50% wool” suit as long as it fits well
True. It’s mostly the fact that can get a spier suit for cheaper than this 50% poly suit
And they are half canvas
And wool
do they fit though
or can you tailor them to fit
Not sure.. haven’t tried one haha
I made it through my early twenties with a dog shit h&m suit. I have no idea what it was made of but it looked good on me
if the fit isn’t going to work then it’s not going to work
I think their return policy is good
At least
Mate you’re not worrying about construction on a $500 suit
Genuinely how often will this suit be worn
Here’s one of the brooks brothers B suits in 42R on him
Does this look good
Fit wise
I can’t find actual measures of these suits online anywhere which sucks
I thought I’d be able to. So I can compare
you could bring a tape measure
yeah
I could have lol
Ima scour the internet and see if I can find the measures of it
See how it compares to the spier
Just go buy it
just buy that suit
Bread I’m being serious when I ask how often will this suit be worn
Not often at all
looks great boss just go pick that shit up before the event and be done with it
You are allocating way too much time and energy to this quest
Just buy that
If you’re not wearing this every day why do you care about materials or construction
It looks good
It does not matter what it’s made of
It should fit well and be comfortable enough to be at an event
It’s not even me
That’s it
Ok your dad should buy that
It’s his daughters wedding so he wants a nice suit for it
So I’m being picky
Trying to help
You can’t be picky for $500
That suit looks great
Mate it looks great, he’ll look great for his daughter
And more importantly it will look great in photos
Unfortunately :/ he can afford much more but he doesn’t want to lol
Nobody is gonna come up to him and feel him up and ask what it’s made of
Lmao
90% of wedding guests look like absolute dogshit
This looks great
this is something he doesn’t seem to want to put much time into so I would respect his wishes and let him buy that
Let me see if I can find info about it. I still want to order a spier and see if it fits him and return if it doesn’t, but that suit is a backup I guess.. but also
It’s not black
That was the issue I remember now
Needs to be a black suit and they didn’t have that cut in black
🤦♂️
why
literally why bread
Why to which?
Because it’s not in black
Why bother with Spier
go to Nordstrom rack I’m not joking
I went to Nordstroms and the cheapest suit was 900
💀
rack
Nordstrom RACK
They had Canali tho
RACK
What is rack??
Oh my god dude
It’s their outlet store
It's their outlet store
Nordstrom Rack
Put it into google maps
Oh let me see if there is one nearby
If you’re lucky they occasionally have returns of mainline Nordstrom stuff
If you’re not lucky they’ll still have CK and Boss, stuff that parents look at and go “that’s a nice brand!”
I found one 30 mins away
What would I be looking for specifically there
A black suit
Brands?
No
It's a nordstrom rack, w.e brands they have lol
One where the price tag is <=$500
I’m being serious dude
Anything that fits
Forget ablut brands
I guess I could look for myself too but I’ve kind of settled on eBay lol
Forget about materials
Ok
Just get a suit that fits and is the right color
Nothing else matters
He’s going to be upset 😂 I told him I’d order the suit. But now have to go to another store
Then just order the suit man
We aren’t next to you with tape measures or in SM’s warehouse
If your heart is set on spier and Mackay just do it
have you not emailed SM's customer service
Oh would they actually help do you think?
Bruh
The grave tragedy of modern clothes shopping is that people think it's best to do it online bc there's info like the material composition, size charts, and access to tons of stores.
The fact of the matter is that there is no replacement for putting that shit on. If your dad wants a suit that fits well (The most important thing!!) then he needs to PUT THAT SHIT ON
that's what customer service means
No substitutes
I know that, that’s why I’m being so anal about the sizing
In the end might have to return it
so just take him to the store and buy the nicest black suit that FITS under $500
Buying from spier will be worse, lug him out on a shopping trip and don't come home until you have purchased a suit
Dawg I’ve worn fucking men’s warehouse suits to events and been fine because they actually fit
Dare I ask what day the wedding is
That is my advice. I'm leaving this thread now 👋
Even if they were shit suits
End of Jan
When we renovated our house the advice we got was to picture a triangle of quality - speed - cost and you can pick two.
It sounds like this wedding is soon so you have to pick speed. Which means you can pick cost or quality but not both. Just find a suit that fits you and your budget
Yeah I’m jsut frustrated between this and finding my own suit too
It’s very stressful 😂
I am sorry for being indecisive
Destress it then by buying the first suit you find that fits and is the right color and is within budget
It’s not worth the time or stress for a one off event suit
I cannot emphasize this enough
And Bread if you are also not gonna wear your suit that often the same rules apply
You both need to just buy the best fitting black suit you can at a local store and then take it to a tailor for adjustment. Given Christmas is in two weeks and you need this by the end of Jan you might not have time to be messing around with online/return/eventually buying something in person + time for tailoring.
You don't need a quality suit. You need a suit that looks good for this event.
I find things I like that looks good on him and he complains he can’t move in it
Is the issue
Tell him to go fuck himself lmao
But like it’s not athletic clothing
I don’t think you’re supposed to be able to do Pilates in it
No you should have some mobility…is he just bitching it’s not sweats or is it actually too small
I don’t think it looks too small at all lol
Actually looked big
Ok if he’s just whining then he can shut up and deal for his fucking daughter’s fucking wedding
Fuck this guy fr he wants a suit that looks good for his own daughter’s wedding and is trying to cheap out on it and bitch about mobility
Tell him I said that
No thanks lol
Caring about suits should be the dad territory lmao
Tbh
You can say simply you can't get these additional aspects and cheap
Bread just buy either the one that looks good, or a 42 in the Spier suit. Spier return policy is the first one is free to help figure out sizing.
Their customer service says 9/10 times to compare their garment sizing to your own garment, or just buy your standard size and ignore the measurements.
If you don’t have a garment already, bring a tailor’s tape next time you go clothes shopping.
I do have a garment already. I posted measures and a pic in the initial post
42 would be slightly slimmer in the waist
1.5 inches smaller
But they advertise 1.5 inch of let out
But the chest is bigger?? Slightly so I’m worried the chest will be way too big
Okay so just, like, order it and see if it fits. Maybe ask after a trouser swap to like a 38
They let you pick afaik
Bread just buy a goddamn suit man do it at brooks brothers or Nordstrom rack or spier and Mackey or fucking men’s warehouse I’m outta here
Thank you for the help
Spier is slow to ship so don’t waste time with them if you only have 5-6 weeks
Just go to a big box store
Nobody at the wedding is going to care as much as we do about fit
I promise you
Oh I thought they are fast to ship??
A week or so
I’m saving yall from yourselves
Bread just email customer support if you have questions about spier
Otherwise use the advice above