cold weather pants
im freezing outside and i just wanna window shop ngl. looking for smthing like pleated trousers tho would check out whatever you personally dig. second hand suggestions is fine
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Most 100% wool pleated trousers will likely be warm enough
Lately I have been really really enjoying corduroy for the cold weather
i think i just need to set time to poke around thrifting a bit
i def don't need like 200 dollar pants lmao
but i feel like window shopping anyways
corduroy is the move.
J Crew has had some really great cords lately, bought 2 pairs and the build quality is high and they are so comfy
Corduroy is the oatmeal cookie of pants
overshadowed by the chocolate chip cookie that is jeans
you lose a lot of drape with heavier wool so ig there's that whole debacle
like tweed would be thick as fuck but it's incredibly structured
long johns
think he said he didn't want to layer thermals underneath earlier
i didnât read
nah wasn't in this thread lol
you're good
Flannel lined jeans can be a real treat
im a wool agreer
I was just goting to say wool is the GOAT, but that's actually cashmere lol
vehemently going to disagree with this
respectfully
cashmere would make horrible pleats
way too soft of a wool to not come out looking puffy
a thicker gabardine would prob work
I can respect that, because they CAN be good, but they can also be bad too
wool drape wins, and tbh chords have great fall vibes, but the fabric itself isnt all that warm
Oh my joke here was that cashmere comes from goats not sheeo
my bad
I would suggest to get some high quality Wool Trousers. You can find used ones relatively cheap on Vestiaire Collective, Ebay and sometimes even in your local vintage shops (depending on where you live). Good brands to search for are: Burberry, YSL, Loro Piana, Ralph Lauren, Giorgio Armani. I often stumble across some really affordable cashmere stuff from Burberry (50⏠for pants in very good condition).
If you really want to get the most for your money, consider setting up filter lists and notifications and then lowball the sellers. Especially with older pants (older in means of date of production and not of how much it has been worn), I have often managed to get some hefty discounts from them.
leather pants also rock thats my hot take
There's also a LOT of really good wool military surplus trousers from various militaries
If you live in a really cold area, then it's really likely that you will more than just Wool pants in order to feel really warm and comfortable. I would suggest you to get atleast one or two pieces of thermal underwear / baselayers for the colder days. One day you it will get colder than you might expect it to be and then you will be glad that you have bought them. They are also not expensive either. You can probably find ones for a really low price in military surplus stores, atleast that is the case here in Europe.
Milsurp quilted liner pants
Don't lowball c'mon man
lol
@eggtart! Where do you live? How cold is it? I'd look for wool flannel trousers. Wool flannel is pretty thick and warm, and you can find old pleated polo ralph lauren wool flannel trousers secondhand pretty easily on eBay.
im in nyc
Oh so am I
Yeah it was freezing today
real talk im just stupid and sold my uniqlo lined sweatpants bc i didn't like the sihloutte anymore
except that's how i've gone through the last like 2-3 winters lmao
so all of a sudden im like wait wow lol
Honestly in this weather though I just wear cotton pants or jeans and a big coat and it's fine.
But my coats go down to my ankles lol.
im not like
freezing
like i just throw on heat tech
but yeah i just don't like the sensory
first world problem
No that makes sense
unfortunately those wool pants i got from my proxy earlier this year is like
4 inches too short
it hikes up past my crew socks if i sit down
those were supoosed to be my winter beaters
My friend owns these and they felt thick and warm: https://bananarepublic.gap.com/browse/product.do?pid=513217012&vid=1&tid=brns000051#pdp-page-content. But the fabric composition is bad so I don't know if I'd recommend them. Still, I'd look for pants similar to this but 100% wool.
Signature Italian Herringbone Wide-Leg Pant | Banana Republic
Shop Banana Republic's Signature Italian Herringbone Wide-Leg Pant: This relaxed pant is cut from a herringbone wool-blend fabric we selected from one of our favorite Italian mills, woven for a warm-handed flannel finish. Here, we've cut this fabric into a pleated, wide-leg pant with a distinctive puddle hem., Mid rise. Wide leg with extra lengt...
If you like Sweatpants, I can suggest you Vollebak. They have pants called 100 Year Sweatpants. These have 3 layers and are extremely warm and the outer layer is even fire proof to some extent. They are extremely warm, especially the first version, and are made to withstand heavy rain and snow. Their quality is outstanding and I believe that these may be a bit overkill though.
Their original price is around 500 - 600⏠depending on the version but Vollebak currently has lots of discounts. You can probably get them for around 80 - 110⏠depending on the version. They are currently destocking and planning to become more of a mainstream brand, which is why everything is so cheap now.
Here you can see their Email newsletter: https://milled.com/vollebak
They had such incredible discounts weekly.
Which one did you get?
https://www.jcrew.com/p/mens/categories/clothing/pants-and-chinos/corduroy/484-slim-fit-pant-in-corduroy/G7128 I got one in khaki and one in green
J.Crew
484 Slim-fit pant in corduroy
Shop J.Crew for the 484 Slim-fit pant in corduroy for men. Find the best selection of men mens-categories-clothing-pants-and-chinos-corduroy available in-stores and on line.
Dang slim fit
Theres a straight fit but looks like its low rise
But $40 is such a steal
I love slim fit because I am finally slim after being thick for a long time
I don't really like the stovepipe jeans that are really popular now
I'm sorry to disagree so vehemently but I'm not sure why someone living in NYC would pay so much for sweatpants with such an insane fabric composition and whose main selling point seems to be that they are fire and abrasion resistant?
You're paying a premium for fabric that is blended with fire resistant modacrylic and aramid and that is doubly coated to make them abrasion resistant. That's ridiculously overkill for almost anybody who isn't literally a firefighter.
You'd be much better off buying a nice pair of heritage cotton sweatpants.
Wythe New York
Donegal Corduroy Five Pocket Pants - Rolling Sand
This stunning "donegal" corduroy comes from one of our favorite mills in Italy which specializes in weaving only corduroys and velvets. They've been weaving corduroy since the late 1800s, and still have a stream running through the mill which they use to wash and clean the cotton. An exclusive fabric to Wythe, the done
If I wore this kind of thing I would have bought one of these pairs. I felt them at the Wythe store and they're beautiful. Super thick cords.
Oh yeah thats gooood
they're sweet. worth the price imo.
Corduroy is a type of weave right? And doesnt imply a specific mayerial?
Yeah you can make it out of all sorts of things but it's usually cotton.
Or wool sometimes.
its usually cotton, but they weave it with the texture
It'd be better to buy secondhand wool trousers but if you have to buy new, GAP puts these wool blend flannels out under different names every year and they're pretty warm and comfortable https://www.gap.com/browse/product.do?pid=604363012&cid=80799&pcid=80799&vid=1&cpos=8&cexp=2859&kcid=CategoryIDs%3D80799&ctype=Listing&cpid=res24120122487639805994760&ccam=40724#pdp-page-content
40 is 40 too much if you dont like the fit
These pants are mainly made for survival / outdoor people. They are extremely durable, which is why you can easily wear such pants daily for years and still have no wear and tear. These can literally last a decade and have a really low price in relation to the quality and longetivity. With certain special promotions you were able to get them for 60⏠each when getting multiple of them. You wouldn't really pay a premium when getting them for such a low price. There are literally cheaply made pants from GAP that are slightly more expensive than that
How about the more important thing of they look like dogshit
That is a valid argument. The old version (the slightly more expensive one) looked like plain cotton sweatpants but they have now gone sold out. The new version just looks like a thicker and less sporty version of Nike's Tech Fleeces đ
Cant believe youve said that while im wearing nike tech fleece pants
been jogging and its like 3 degrees
A couple more wool suggestions, available secondhand: Orvis donegal tweed pants, Woolrich woolen hunting pants. Neither is pleated, but both are very, very cozy.
if you're okay with milsurp m-1951 field pants are wool and super warm, even without the liner
plus side tab adjusters, always a plus
seconding the m-1951 wool field pants rec, super toasty and pretty heavyweight
Iâve heard the m-1951 are really scratchy, is that true?
depends on how scratchy you find wool
I was worried theyâd feel scratchy but they donât bother me. Iâm not very sensitive to wool though, unless itâs on my neck
i haven't experienced any itchiness; i cannot speak to the liner but it's just as easy to take that out
These things are tanks, itchy but well built
@eggtart! you into workwear at all? Carhartt and dickies (and other brands) sell cotton flannel lined versions of their canvas work pants, extremely popular here in the midwest and most of them will fade like jeans with wear
https://www.carhartt.com/product/B111/loose-fit-washed-duck-flannel-lined-utility-work-pant
Also, monitaly does a really cool wool military style cargo pant. You can sometimes find these secondhand or on sale for a decent price.
You can always make such wool softer and less scratchy by letting it soak in vinegar, putting it in a freezer for a day or by using lanolin. Especially old wool clothes may lose their grease over time and therefore become scratchy. Regreasing it a little can really do wonders! This is also often the case with Military Surplus gear as they tend to be older. :gigachad:
I just put that shit on :gigachad:
but great tip
Donât soak your wool in vinegar or lanolin.
Vinegar wonât do anything and lanolin will make it more insulating but will barely make it less itchy, if it does at all. If itâs itchy now and you use lanolin it will still bother you.
Also I need to point out that itâs not the âwool greaseâ (lol) that makes wool soft but the thickness of the fibers, which no amount of lanolin or vinegar will change.
If by wool grease you mean the fat secreted by the animal, that just makes it more or less water resistant, it doesnât affect the softness.
Matter of fact, wool can lose its natural fat layer over time, especially when being washed often or when being heavily processed. This can make the wool dry and itchy. The fibers of the wool become harder, which makes it scratch more. You can feel this the most when having wool that has lots of fiber breakage. Obviously it can't fix bad quality wool and make it as soft as cashmere but it still can have a significant impact, especially when buying older clothes like you do when buying something military surplus.
Using Vinegar on wool changes the pH level of the wool and makes it more acidic, bringing it back to its natural level. This closes the wool's cuticles again, making it smoother. The production of wool and the washing can actually open the cuticles and make it feel more scratchy. This mostly depends on the way the wool has been processed. Older gear, especially the ones that were created for the masses are the most likely to have been produced in a way that leaves the wool's cuticles open. Vinegar would not do anything when buying a new high quality wool sweater but when you have something that has been washed wrong, has a bad quality or something that is old in general but not worn once, then Vinegar can actually do quite a lot. :xdcrying:
so just put that shit on?
just put that shit on man
What precisely is the relation between the pH level of wool and whether the cuticles are âclosedâ or âopenâ? How does that work? Evidently youâve just lightly paraphrased some article you found on Google without understanding it, and conflated different things.
Itâs just not true that woolâs scratchiness comes from whether the cuticles are open or closed. It comes from the size of the fibers, like I said, which canât be changed!
If youâre sensitive to scratchy wool you should just not buy it instead of trying a bunch of pseudoscientific methods to make it softer, which even if they work will make a marginal difference.
The reason the milsurp pants are scratchy isnât because theyâve been washed wrong or treated poorly itâs because of the kind of wool they use to make them.
I have actually never read this article prior to that nor had I made the effort to look up for information before writing my message. I am not a native English speaker and rather prefer do to my research in my native language. I had already dealt with this topic multiple times and therefore from memory. Nonetheless this information is not wrong and more of a strongly simplified explanation of it. The pH level of wool can make a relatively big impact on it's characteristics (which is mainly important for felting). đĽ¸
I don't care man it's just bad, dumb advice and I'm not inclined to give you the benefit of the doubt since you came in here to tell someone they should buy awful looking, $445 firefighter pants.
since your information is correct, do you have sources where someone could educate themselves?
Well, you are wrong with that. The scratchiness of wool is actually influenced by multiple factors. The main factor is obviously the thickness of the wool fibers. Like I have already said, you can't magically make the lowest quality wool feel like cashmere but it's still possible to make it less scratchy depending on the type of type of wool and the way it has been processed. đ¤Ł
Honestly, I am not going to search out sources just to back off such simple information. Just use Google and earch for 5 min. You should find quite a lot of sources that state literally the same. If you are wanting to do that you can also just ask any LLM model and they should give you a similar answer :xdcrying:
bruh I'm not using AI lmfao
You can find any kind of junk on Google in 5 minutes. Do you have anything reputable?
back up your claim it's not my job to back it up for you.
Please explain precisely how vinegar "closes the wool's cuticles again" and why "open" cuticles make wool itchy?
I have nothing to add here besides some people are allergic to lanolin so that is an additional reason why wool can be scratchy
Adding lanolin to wool to make it less irritating is insanely stupid
Please elaborate why you think that way. With lanolin you are able to restore the natural fat layer. Some wool detergents can also do this to some extend but not as good as lanolin does. Conditioner without parabens and sulfates (these can dry out the wool) can also do the job for people that are heavily allergic to lanolin đ
Nah Iâm good
Anyway, @eggtart! you should get some of these warm pants
https://haruyama365.com/products/kapital-damask-fleece-easy-pants?
HARUYAMA
Kapital damask fleece easy pants
Easy pants made of fleece with a damask pattern. Samples were taken from old damask fabric to reproduce the unique color and texture of the old fabric in fleece. The waist can be adjusted with a drawstring. 100% polyester, other fabric 100% nylon size Waist Hip Thigh Rise hem Inseam size1 26.77inch~33.07inch 40.16inch
What kind of animal are these from?
Youâve never heard of the fabled Damask
Polyester is just dinosaur wool if you think about it
Hell yeah
consider dunking them in a vat of this to make them softer
Are the sweatpants bulletproof
If so, I will invest
brb, heading to the Freak Fleece Off
Honestly if you're wearing kapital you're gonna need it anyway...
More of an Uberlube guy tbh I got dry skin
honestly
how is there over 20+ ppkl in thjis thread
its like i created a honey pot
You absolutely did
I have already explained it in a simplified version. This has already gone way too far. If you want to you can just ask ChatGPT for a quick answer and ask for its sources.
I have also seen the Screenshot of my old messages on the server that you have sent in this chat, trying to make fun of me. I would ask you to please refrain from that. I am sorry if this discussion made you angry in any way, I was just trying to explain and help others with my information đđ
The buzzards start to circle any thread with more than 100 posts. You know thereâs something juicy going on
Say âChatGPTâ one more time I stg
i should make a thought containment thread
but im going to use a forbidden tech called close thread now
:linkWave:
I'm also looking for trousers to survive in the cold
the chino's i've got are nice but they're not cutting it for this weather lol
:linkThink: I'm looking at Uniqlo
Is that a decent option for cold trousers and if it isn't, where else could I look?
ok, i had a look and i couldn't find any wool trousers from Uniqlo :why_dissolve:
i'm also having trouble finding stuff from Ralph Lauren on eBay
most of the stuff I've found is Lauren Ralph Lauren or $200+ RRL shipped from the US
Fleece and flannel lined jeans seem pretty common on eBay. I have a pair from LL Bean in going to try on today. I also see listings for Wrangler, Carhartt.
Warm wool pants can be tricky to search for, because a lot of the results for "wool pants" are dress pants. You need to be clever with search terms.
Try "Woolrich wool pants", "wool hunting pants", "wool 5 pocket", "thick wool pants"
If you like the looser baggier fit, look for older pleated wool flannels and woolens on ebay, you can get amazing pieces for $50-100 before negotiating. Heavyweight cords are also a great option, 8 wale is a beautiful sweet spot