Optimize FPS on a High End system

So I have seen people play this game at absurd frame rates including shaders but no matter what, since I got this game back in 2010 I could never get performance at even a fraction of what I have seen. Now I have a ton of performance and optimization mods at my disposal, while having the strongest system I have had. My specs are 7950x, 4080 Super, 32Gigs of 6000mhz ddr5 ram. WIthout shaders running distant horizons I have an average fps of 243. With shaders I sit around 90 on singleplayer but its fairly inconsistent sometimes dropping to 30fps. I want to have a stable framerate while running my shaders, mods, etc. I believe this system is more than reasonable to achieve that. My CPU and GPU are both capable of being pushed further I believe. Is there a way to optimize further? I have nvidium installed but cant run it with shaders, even when I run it without shaders it doesnt have a noticable increase in framerate. I will admit though I am on forge and I have the acedium fork so I believe it may have its own issues. I would like to provide my friends with acedium as they could benefit more since they don't have shaders installed on worse systems and are struggling a bit as well. Yet, that's not the focus here. I want to optimize for shaders as well.
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vnce
vnceOP2mo ago
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Puhpine
Puhpine2mo ago
are you generating DH chunks in the background? that can take quite some fps
vnce
vnceOP2mo ago
I should note that while yes the mods are cutting fps, I dont get much higher on vanilla but let me check actually is there a way to check that or do you mean is the world still generating
Puhpine
Puhpine2mo ago
is distant generation on in dh's settings? yea
vnce
vnceOP2mo ago
yeah I used chunky to generate and its been a while since its finished
Puhpine
Puhpine2mo ago
oh okay, then that shouldnt be an issue what vanilla render distance?
vnce
vnceOP2mo ago
16 chunks
Puhpine
Puhpine2mo ago
DH quality preset?
vnce
vnceOP2mo ago
i changed a few settings to optimize so its custom currently
Puhpine
Puhpine2mo ago
alright
vnce
vnceOP2mo ago
its medium for the most part
Puhpine
Puhpine2mo ago
did you allocate enough ram?
vnce
vnceOP2mo ago
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vnce
vnceOP2mo ago
overexposed cause of hdr i have 24 allocated previously had 8 no noticable difference in performance tbh sorry not 8 i had 10
Puhpine
Puhpine2mo ago
try reducing ram allocated to 12 and set your vanilla render distance to 12 i think thats the best you can do
vnce
vnceOP2mo ago
are these normal fps ranges for this kind of cpu/gpu combo? i feel like utilization could be higher
Puhpine
Puhpine2mo ago
thats hard to say from the screenshot it looks like your bottlenecked by your cpu like one core is getting hammered hard while the rest is doing nothing
vnce
vnceOP2mo ago
is there any kind of way to split the workload over multiple threads or the game hard coded to single core
Puhpine
Puhpine2mo ago
no, thats not possible
vnce
vnceOP2mo ago
and I imagine there is no way to reduce the workload by shifting the work to the gpu especially without nvidium though I really am not seeing a significant difference with invidium regardlless
Puhpine
Puhpine2mo ago
shifting work to the GPU not no weird, you should see a huge difference. maybe youre also cpu bottlenecked there
vnce
vnceOP2mo ago
how could the cpu be bottlenecked when its slamming 5.4ghz consistently and having all the other cores free. a friend of mine is running a gtx 1660 and in vanilla it seems he gets higher fps. obviously when we start involving shaders and higher resolutions and stuff it cant keep up mods too completely slam it but his cpu is a ryzen 7 12 core processor maybe ryzen 9 i cant remember exactly I wonder if linux has better performance than windows? I don't know really, I been thinking about this for a while I've seen people hardware from 5 years ago hitting 500fps or more and mod devs talking about 2000fps and those numbers just do not register with me not like I care to have such absurd frame rates but I just don't know how its possible
Puhpine
Puhpine2mo ago
have you tried with just nvidium and see what youre getting? and on fabric instead of forge
vnce
vnceOP2mo ago
never tried fabric before
Puhpine
Puhpine2mo ago
why not?
vnce
vnceOP2mo ago
only ever tried vanilla and forge im super old gen and dont play minecraft aside from once every few years when I put together a modded server for my friends only ever used forge cause thats what we had back then and its comfortable for me never tried anything else so I would have to figure out how that works
Puhpine
Puhpine2mo ago
its not very different from forge. if youre using the official minecraft launcher you just run the fabric installer from https://fabricmc.net/ and youre done
Fabric
Fabric
The home of the Fabric mod development toolchain.
vnce
vnceOP2mo ago
Appreciated, ill check it out eventually. Though a lot of mods are not compatible so I wouldn't be able to swap over to fabric fully even if forge was to blame I am curious if forge has any glaring innefficiencies though
Puhpine
Puhpine2mo ago
startup time is horrible, and a lot of performance mods, like nvidium, only natively support fabric but for the rest its fine you wont see a huge difference
vnce
vnceOP2mo ago
does this mean anything to you
vnce
vnceOP2mo ago
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vnce
vnceOP2mo ago
I installed spark to see whats going on but i havent had enough time to digest the information and make sense of it
Puhpine
Puhpine2mo ago
it means ticking stuff took a third of the cpu time no wait a third of the server thread time i cant tell you much else
vnce
vnceOP2mo ago
the percentages seem normal I imagine? this is all one core from my understanding and its using 100% or atleast thats what I understand
Puhpine
Puhpine2mo ago
i dont know not sure, but probably yea i dont think thats what its saying, but im not sure
vnce
vnceOP2mo ago
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vnce
vnceOP2mo ago
oh yeah you can expand and Im seeing 50% waiting for tasks so its not actually at 100% but its just scheduling it well i guess ill experiment more and see if I find something
Puhpine
Puhpine2mo ago
alright
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In Windows, press Win + R, type msconfig, and hit Enter. Go to the 'Boot' tab, click on 'Advanced options', and ensure that the 'Number of processors' option is unchecked, which allows Windows to use all available cores See if this works.
vnce
vnceOP2mo ago
yeah its unchecked already
Miki_P98
Miki_P982mo ago
Have you managed to somehow inject HDR into MC? Every time I try playing fullscreen HDR disables itself in Windows In windowed it works, but the game does not have any HDR, Windows Auto HDR and Special K HDR injection did not work for me :/ Or is it just default Windows SDR to HDR brightness slider behavior? Haven't made any screenshots recently
Puhpine
Puhpine2mo ago
That's the default
vnce
vnceOP2mo ago
windows 10 or 11? auto hdr works relatively well for me make sure you have your hdr settings configured correctly
vnce
vnceOP2mo ago
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vnce
vnceOP2mo ago
your gpu might play a role as well not entirely sure though
Miki_P98
Miki_P982mo ago
11, enabled, game mode on, force game mode on in MC: true, calibrated newest driver on NVIDIA GPU
vnce
vnceOP2mo ago
30series card or newer?
Miki_P98
Miki_P982mo ago
When you press Win + G does it say auto HDR is working? 40 series
vnce
vnceOP2mo ago
where do I check? i dont use all of microsoft's proprietary stuff i basically wiped my windows clean of a lot of stuff
vnce
vnceOP2mo ago
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vnce
vnceOP2mo ago
this is what i see when i press win+g
Miki_P98
Miki_P982mo ago
Settings (cog on the top) -> game functions If the intensity HDR button is active and you can change it AutoHDR is working If you can't interact with it, the game runs in HDR and just the brightness is boosted by Windows SDR to HDR brightness slider Visible here
vnce
vnceOP2mo ago
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Miki_P98
Miki_P982mo ago
Huh You are in fullscreen?
vnce
vnceOP2mo ago
yes but I can do borderless as well
Miki_P98
Miki_P982mo ago
https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-188052 Fulscreen MC always disabled HDR in Windows for me... And well... not only me
vnce
vnceOP2mo ago
what java version are you on actually ive tried multiple and they are all fine idk thats weird maybe its something to do with your monitor? are you using display port?
Miki_P98
Miki_P982mo ago
JAVA 21 Yes Just tested, yes fulscreen still disables HDR in windows for me :/ What mods do you have? Maybe one of them fixes this bug for whatever reason?
vnce
vnceOP2mo ago
check your advanced display and make sure your color space is HDR
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vnce
vnceOP2mo ago
its definitely not the mods but if you want to see them
vnce
vnceOP2mo ago
this is the pack i gave to my friends
Miki_P98
Miki_P982mo ago
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vnce
vnceOP2mo ago
but ive played without them and never had issues with hdr what launcher are you using
Miki_P98
Miki_P982mo ago
Modrinth APP With GDLauncher I also had the same issue
vnce
vnceOP2mo ago
have you tried curse forge or the vanilla launcher?
Miki_P98
Miki_P982mo ago
I think I tried vanilla
vnce
vnceOP2mo ago
those are the only two ive used
Miki_P98
Miki_P982mo ago
I can launch borderless fulscreen in HDR but Windows Auto HDR still does not work
Miki_P98
Miki_P982mo ago
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Miki_P98
Miki_P982mo ago
What do you use for Borderless? Thrid party program, mod?
vnce
vnceOP2mo ago
i think embeddium is providing the borderless support thats a sodium fork iirc
Miki_P98
Miki_P982mo ago
I use it too, I will check the settings No, only fullscreen and windowed
vnce
vnceOP2mo ago
ill check
Miki_P98
Miki_P982mo ago
mayby some other mod?
Mati
Mati2mo ago
nie mozliwe polska?
Miki_P98
Miki_P982mo ago
Borderless Mining, Cubes Without Borders or Concentration?
vnce
vnceOP2mo ago
nah give me a sec im restarting the game its definitely sodium or well not sodium but some addon for it
vnce
vnceOP2mo ago
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vnce
vnceOP2mo ago
its embeddium
Miki_P98
Miki_P982mo ago
I have embeddium and I have only a toggle :/
Miki_P98
Miki_P982mo ago
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vnce
vnceOP2mo ago
what version im on 1.20.1
Miki_P98
Miki_P982mo ago
Me too
vnce
vnceOP2mo ago
update the mods then and make sure you get the same author as me
Miki_P98
Miki_P982mo ago
Embeddium 0.3.25+mc1.20.1 All up to date
vnce
vnceOP2mo ago
nah there is a newer version
Miki_P98
Miki_P982mo ago
I'm on fabric
vnce
vnceOP2mo ago
oh then idk
Miki_P98
Miki_P982mo ago
But Forge should not fix random HDR bug! Cubes Without Borders adds working borderless mode But Windows Auto HDR is still off I force enabled it for both the MC jar and for the javaw.exe Still nothing :/
Puhpine
Puhpine2mo ago
No jars pls thx
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