Streaming Pc Build Help
Want advice on 2nd pc for streaming/recording.
I want to be able to record in 4k 100k bitrate Av1
At the same time stream to twitch and youtube in x264 Medium preset 8k bitrate
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Want the best budget option for 4k 100k recording with simultaneous 1080p streaming at medium x264
So first off, you should not be recording by a constant bitrate, and instead use CRF or CQP. Essentially that tells the encoder to target a quality level, and it will auto-adust the bitrate depending on how complex the scene is. If you did constant bitrate, the filesize would be incredibly too large compared to CRF / CQP, and with no benefits to speak of
im using CQP for recording
14 P7
Then that's fine to keep it that way
Second, CPU x264 encoding compared to modern GPU h264 is not worth it for the miniscule quality difference
Since you're already trying to buy a new GPU for this system and you want AV1 encoding, your best bet would be an Nvidia 40 series since it can do AV1 and has the best h264 encoder quality. It's basically impossible to tell by the human eye the difference between CPU and NVENC h264 on the 40 series
but to reiterate on the "cheapest" requirement, the cheapest would be to forego a dedicated GPU and use a CPU with integrated GPU capable of AV1 and stick to x264 on the CPU
while streaming at 8k with the games that i play. The smoothness of x264 really does come into play over nvenc. Ive tested it a bunch with other people/rigs as well
8kbitrate 1080p*
since it's a dedicated streaming PC anyways there's no worry about bottlenecking anything by using the CPU to encode too
and you should learn what bitrates are
there is no "8k" bitrate
theres an integrated gpu that can record 4k 100k bitrate?
and 100k kb/s is not = 100mbit
100k k/bs
my bad on the terms
thats what i meant sorry
8000kbps = 8mbps
and then thats my recording.
(also unrelated but you can always just take screenshots of your PC instead of pics on mobile)
i know. So I took these pics yesterday
before i reinstalled windows
lol
wanted to have them on my phone real quick before i resintalled
my bad
are the intel GPUs paired with a cpu not a good idea for this then?
they are
if you cut corners you can get a cheap solution with a cheap CPU and an low end intel GPU too
but I wouldn't want to skimp on CPU performance just to have a dedicated GPU that doesn't really give you any real world advantage
whats the best cpu option that can do the medium preset while not effecting the 4k recording the gpu will be doing at the same time?
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the GPU recording won't be affected by whatever the CPU is doing
at all?
they're seperate parts of the chip
ok didnt know that i figured it would be effecting it in 1 way or aother
another
well, to some extent, of course, system overhead etc. but not meaningfully
would the a310 work or is it not good enough?
there is a "GPU" on the "CPU"
yea the IGPU
i didnt know any IGPU had av1 encoding
idk of any dedicated igpu av1 benchmarks off the top of my head
but I don't see why they wouldn't be able to do 4k easily
4k recording with 1080p stream off a cpu seems insane tbh
(I know it has the igpu seperate)
it's not like you're running a game at the same time
just looking back in time it would seem like this is all make believe fairy tale talk lol
it's supposed to be a dedicated streaming PC after all
crazy
yea
would love to edit on davinci with the duel encoder of the a310 or another intel gpu
but thats not exactly a requirement
so u think theirs a IGPU that can record QCP 14 at 7slow?
that would be one hell of a piece of hardware
well I can't 100% say that for certain, my experience with GPU encoding is limited, but if a encoder on a dedicated GPU can do it I don't see why one on an iGPU couldn't
iGPUs are often limited to only one encode though
ok well lets say I got a dedicated gpu. What cpu would be enough for 1080p multistreaming
I don't think any remotely modern multicore CPU has a problem with 1080p x264
i should note i have insane OBS setups
like a LOT of stuff going on
ok which cpu would be the best bang for the buck then in this case? Also intel or amd? (i have no preference ) i guess i should be thinking about mobo/cpu combos for price
like I said, idk what intel CPUs exactly started having AV1 encode
nono
if i get a dedicated gpu
so i wouldnt need av1
I'm only giving you a general idea of what I would do... can't do any specific recommendations for your specific usecase as I have too little experience
for the cpu
just the basic cpu for streaming 1080p
x264
well in that case I'd stick with AMD, 7700 or 8700G
wouldn't really go below for a streaming rig
intel may be cheaper, but I haven't had an intel system in a while so nothing I can direct you to here, I'll leave that up to someone else ^^
lol thanks 😄
Personally if you aren't using TEB you can get away with the RTX 4060, my setup does Twitch at 1080p, YT at 1080p HEVC, while doing two separate recordings at 4k AV1
That a 1 pc setup or duel? @Kinou054
Triple 😆 but yes that PC is set to be dedicated to Twitch with Vertical renders so two separate canvas