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Novu2mo ago
AN1RUDH

Novu is slow even after creating indexes

Hi everyone, we've self-hosted novu and its quiet slow. Thanks to Novu team's old responses in some of the thread, we found and created indexes based on lib/dal -- https://github.com/novuhq/novu/tree/next/libs/dal/src/repositories However, even after creating indexes, its quiet slow and uses a lot of CPU. It uses 100% CPU (on M50 - 8vCores, 32 gigs of RAM). It uses 100% CPU and the query times are >20s many times. The main spike we see in screenshot is when we have a schedule. On an average there are 20-25k triggers throughout the day that goes out at the scheduled time. I've noticed activity feed on frontend load quickly compared to what we had without indexes. Is this expected? If not how can we improve this? Any help would be appreciated Thank you for your time and efforts. (Lmk if I should move this to #⚓│community-self-host)
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AN1RUDH
AN1RUDHOP2mo ago
Another thing we've noticed is that the DB name is test by defualt. Which is a bit weird so just adding it here. Here are some indexes on jobs - And RN there are ~150k docs in jobs
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Novu_Bot
Novu_Bot2mo ago
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AN1RUDH
AN1RUDHOP2mo ago
This keeps getting worse. 😦 Any help would be greatly appreciated 🙏
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AN1RUDH
AN1RUDHOP2mo ago
@Support Sorry for tagging, Again, I'm aware that support for self-hosting is not provided but just wanted to get your eyes on it and wanted to confirm if this happens w/everyone or not. (in case we have some misconfigurations or something). Thank you. Frequent operations that we do: - trigger (20-25k triggers for a specific workflow everyday. -- sent to topics) - update topics and subscribers in topics (e.g. insertion/deletion) - subscriber creation - reading notifications
MP
MP2mo ago
Hi @AN1RUDH You can find suggested indexes in schema.ts file apply those index for all the available collections. this is how I fixed this issue!
AN1RUDH
AN1RUDHOP2mo ago
Thank you for responding. I have created indexes from here -- https://github.com/novuhq/novu/tree/next/libs/dal/src/repositories (on every collection). And its still pretty slow (checkout my message (screenshot) above from yesterday) and the initial message. If its possible, can you share how many notifications you send daily?
Dima Grossman
Dima Grossman2mo ago
@AN1RUDH do you have a redis caching service enables aswell? (this is not required, but I do recommend having a dedicated caching service running)
AN1RUDH
AN1RUDHOP2mo ago
yes I have. I have these environment variables set on API and worker - REDIS_HOST - REDIS_PASSWORD - REDIS_PORT - REDIS_CACHE_SERVICE_HOST - REDIS_CACHE_SERVICE_PORT
AN1RUDH
AN1RUDHOP2mo ago
This is max memory usage by Redis.
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Dima Grossman
Dima Grossman2mo ago
This redis instance is used for the queuing system, I would suggest also running a seperate caching redis cluster you can configure with those env variables:
REDIS_CACHE_SERVICE_HOST=
REDIS_CACHE_SERVICE_PORT=6379
REDIS_CACHE_DB_INDEX=
REDIS_CACHE_SERVICE_HOST=
REDIS_CACHE_SERVICE_PORT=6379
REDIS_CACHE_DB_INDEX=
Our cloud implementation runs with memory db and a multi node cluster, but this should also work with a single node I believe.
MP
MP2mo ago
We sends about 15 to 17 thousand notification per day
AN1RUDH
AN1RUDHOP2mo ago
Thank you, appreciate your response. I've added these env variables (this is a separate Redis instance now) --
REDIS_CACHE_SERVICE_HOST=****
REDIS_CACHE_SERVICE_PORT=6379

# Not sure what should be its value.
REDIS_CACHE_DB_INDEX=1

REDIS_CACHE_PASSWORD=****
REDIS_CACHE_SERVICE_HOST=****
REDIS_CACHE_SERVICE_PORT=6379

# Not sure what should be its value.
REDIS_CACHE_DB_INDEX=1

REDIS_CACHE_PASSWORD=****
(its been some time, and I don't see anything in cache -- not sure if its expected) EDIT: its still empty, after ~12hr Also, I have indexes on all collections based on lib/dal (screenshot has indexes for jobs). Yet, the max query times have skyrocketed to ~2 minutes. (for reference we have 20-25k triggers throughout the day and RN we have >600k jobs, >190k topicsubscribers and ~32k topics if its helpful.)
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AN1RUDH
AN1RUDHOP2mo ago
Thank you for sharing, if you don't mind, can you share whats the avg (or if possible p90/p99) and max mongo request duration? Also, do you send notifications to topics? -- We send notifications to topics having many subscribers.
AN1RUDH
AN1RUDHOP2mo ago
This is still an issue -- - I see the cache service using this shared provider -- https://github.com/novuhq/novu/blob/next/libs/application-generic/src/services/in-memory-provider/providers/redis-provider.ts#L47-L55 - not sure but this is not reading cache service credentials? - I think at some point, novu logs the host of Redis that its connecting to. I see log for the redis instance used for bullmq, but I do not see the host set by REDIS_CACHE_SERVICE_HOST - I've set IS_SELF_HOSTED=true, yet I see logs where the pattern is [Provider: Elasticache] ... and not with [Provider: Redis] -- https://github.com/novuhq/novu/blob/next/libs/application-generic/src/services/in-memory-provider/cache-in-memory-provider.service.ts#L44-L50
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AN1RUDH
AN1RUDHOP2mo ago
btw we use Azure Cache for Redis. Tho I don't think it should be an issue -- I did see Azure cache for redis related env vars in Novu's codebase, but not sure if I should set those.
Dima Grossman
Dima Grossman2mo ago
@AN1RUDH could you send me a DM And we will try to find sometime to jump on a quick call with screen sharing? I will try to help out if I can
AN1RUDH
AN1RUDHOP2mo ago
Yes sure, Thank you very much!
vikram
vikram4w ago
hey @Dima Grossman @AN1RUDH we are running into same issue do you find any solution. we have created index on mongo but still same issue. and we have hosted external mongo of 8 core 12gb and CPU Utilization is 100% and our daily triggers around 10000. please help 😥
AN1RUDH
AN1RUDHOP4w ago
Hi Vikram, sorry I missed this notification. We noticed that we have Find and FindAndUpdate queries in particular on jobs collections, that are taking a lot of time. I'll be trying to find what those queries are (exactly) and if we have correct indexes. Do you have the same issue? If you're on mongoDB atlas, you should be able to see slow queries I think. 🤔
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