Dark LODs even without starlight or related mods.

This is with th server-side fork but I don't believe that's the problem. No matter what I do I can't seem to get the LODs to all be normally colored. What should I do? DH 2.1.3 on MC 1.20.1
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That Guy
That Guy3mo ago
Update to the latest version of dh then see if the issue persists
ReplayJay
ReplayJayOP3mo ago
Unfortunately I can't because I am on 1.20.1 and I need compatibility with iris 1.7.2
That Guy
That Guy3mo ago
Oh that is an issue then
ReplayJay
ReplayJayOP3mo ago
yeah :/ I could send my modlist idk if its a problem with the server side mods or the client side mods though
That Guy
That Guy3mo ago
Yea well might as well have a look at the client side first
ReplayJay
ReplayJayOP3mo ago
yea, well the LOD generation is happenig on the server side but alright
That Guy
That Guy3mo ago
I don't think it has anything to do with the generation just the appearance rather
ReplayJay
ReplayJayOP3mo ago
top part has my modlist
That Guy
That Guy3mo ago
WOW that is a lot of mods try a binary search /binarysearch
YAGPDB.xyz
YAGPDB.xyz3mo ago
Try a binary search and figure out which mod is causing it. So disable half of the mods, see if issue is still there, if yes disable half again etc etc until you find the mod that's causing the issue.
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ReplayJay
ReplayJayOP3mo ago
yeah fabric splits it up into like 300 smth, its only really 129 but that's still a lot
h
h3mo ago
only?
ReplayJay
ReplayJayOP3mo ago
I really don't feel like its any of the mods on my client yea its still a lot
That Guy
That Guy3mo ago
Yea lol fabric counts all the individual mods that live inside of the main ones
h
h3mo ago
I have 300 (excluding libraries)
That Guy
That Guy3mo ago
that's crazy
ReplayJay
ReplayJayOP3mo ago
these are the mods on the server side, where the actual LOD generation is happening
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h
h3mo ago
um I won’t question if it works it probably does but uh ok
ReplayJay
ReplayJayOP3mo ago
yep, it launches for sure and what's weird is this problem didn't exist before I regenerated all the chunks
That Guy
That Guy3mo ago
Yea I reckon just do a binary search then if it isn't a client side problem then I will start looking through the server side mods aye
ReplayJay
ReplayJayOP3mo ago
idk I guess I'll do that if it comesdown to it
That Guy
That Guy3mo ago
that is weird
ReplayJay
ReplayJayOP3mo ago
it really is I had to regenerate because the first time I used chunky and that lead to there being massive holes in the generation
h
h3mo ago
is the ambient occlusion messed up
That Guy
That Guy3mo ago
Does the same thing happen if you regen the chunks again?
h
h3mo ago
I’m taking a wild guess while saying this
ReplayJay
ReplayJayOP3mo ago
unfortunately I tried a couple times and got the same results after How exactly would I look into that?
h
h3mo ago
could be client side or server side
That Guy
That Guy3mo ago
Sorry I have to go but I will be back later
ReplayJay
ReplayJayOP3mo ago
i've heard of ambient occlusion, but what is it actually? np
h
h3mo ago
go into the config file for server side dark shadowy thing around edges makes things look better it could just be the version but since you have to stay on it idk
ReplayJay
ReplayJayOP3mo ago
the DH config file?
h
h3mo ago
ye
ReplayJay
ReplayJayOP3mo ago
i don't think there's an option for ambient occlusion there or is there?
h
h3mo ago
there is
ReplayJay
ReplayJayOP3mo ago
what's it called?
h
h3mo ago
it’s under like advanced settings then graphics then ambient occlusion
ReplayJay
ReplayJayOP3mo ago
let me see
ReplayJay
ReplayJayOP3mo ago
looks like the only thing under advanced then graphics
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h
h3mo ago
I’m trying to figure out what to do but I don’t have access to my computer rn
ReplayJay
ReplayJayOP3mo ago
yeah np, I appreciate your help
h
h3mo ago
for the actual gui it’s like that but I’ve never dug into the raw config files only for stuff like biome replacer etc
ReplayJay
ReplayJayOP3mo ago
right, I can't access the server GUI man I'm really stumped
h
h3mo ago
maybe you could switch out a config file for one that has ao disabled?
ReplayJay
ReplayJayOP3mo ago
maybe, I guess that could work I'm gonna try deleting the config file rq and deleting the LOD data and just seeing if maybe I changed a setting or something
h
h3mo ago
ok imma go sleepy sleep now
ReplayJay
ReplayJayOP3mo ago
have a good sleep
h
h3mo ago
thanks
That Guy
That Guy3mo ago
here it is
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ReplayJay
ReplayJayOP3mo ago
I don't see it right now, perhaps it was added in a more recent DH version?
That Guy
That Guy3mo ago
Can you send your config file lemme see if aI can find it
That Guy
That Guy3mo ago
nope your too outdated sorry
ReplayJay
ReplayJayOP3mo ago
sad
That Guy
That Guy3mo ago
No ambient occlusion for you my kind sir
ReplayJay
ReplayJayOP3mo ago
it was going SO WELL
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ReplayJay
ReplayJayOP3mo ago
THIS WHOLE THING IS FINE
ReplayJay
ReplayJayOP3mo ago
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ReplayJay
ReplayJayOP3mo ago
AND THEN THESE FEW
That Guy
That Guy3mo ago
Bruh
ReplayJay
ReplayJayOP3mo ago
ONLY THOSE CHUNKS ARE SHOWING UP LIKE THt sigh idek what to do
That Guy
That Guy3mo ago
neither this is an extremely weird issue I haven't seen anything like it before
Puhpine
Puhpine3mo ago
Deleting starlight doesn't fully solve the issue. Your normal chunks are still tainted under the hood by starlight's format that dh 2.1.2 has difficulty reading
h
h3mo ago
i have the same typ eof issue but with snow
h
h3mo ago
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h
h3mo ago
idk whats happening nvm i fixed it
ReplayJay
ReplayJayOP3mo ago
Yeah, but I deleted all the LODs on the server and client but it still showed up that way. This was the result of me regenerating them, and I watched them appear dark like that in realtime
Miki_P98
Miki_P983mo ago
You would need to delete vanilla chunks not DH LODs As every time DH would generate a LOD from a chunk saved when Starlight was present it will be black
ReplayJay
ReplayJayOP3mo ago
OH
Miki_P98
Miki_P983mo ago
You can try going back to DH 2.1.0 if you can't update to 2.2
ReplayJay
ReplayJayOP3mo ago
dang, people have already started building and such If I put 2.1.0 on the server, would I need to downgrade all the clients’ versions too?
Miki_P98
Miki_P983mo ago
I guess yes GC luck finding and compiling 2.1.0 server version :/ If you are patient you can also force update all the vanilla chunks without Starlight installed As now after they are saved again they will have correct vanilla MC format and DH will work
ReplayJay
ReplayJayOP3mo ago
Like by placing a block in them?
Miki_P98
Miki_P983mo ago
Should be enough
ReplayJay
ReplayJayOP3mo ago
Or doing something else to update a block inside of it Hm… I wonder if there’d be a way to automate that
Miki_P98
Miki_P983mo ago
You can most likely make some wordedit command that will place a block in every chunks based on some grid pattern I would advise it to be, e.g. glowstone so that the light update will for sure happen
ReplayJay
ReplayJayOP3mo ago
That’d be way easier than trying to get like a million carpet bots to do it which is what I was thinking of 💀 I’ll try that, thanks for your help Do you think if I updated DH server side to 2.2.x it’d be backwards compatible with 2.1.3 on the client side? Probably not but I guess that’s worth a shot too
Miki_P98
Miki_P983mo ago
I don't think it will
ReplayJay
ReplayJayOP3mo ago
Yeah, probably not
Miki_P98
Miki_P983mo ago
As serverside does not have proper stable version there are a lot of changes every update
ReplayJay
ReplayJayOP3mo ago
Yeah. I can’t wait for an official release, looking forward to it. I think that’ll really be the next level of DH I knew about DH before iris support when it was bellow 1m downloads, but it exploded after Iris support and YouTube was full of edits (and still is). I think official server side support will be the next explosion of popularity to DH
Miki_P98
Miki_P983mo ago
You haven't lost that much Pre DH 2.0 is was useless in my opinion The performance drop was really big back then It will be soon, but it will still require Iris 1.8 and Sodium 0.6.0. I hope all mods will update to support this combo Especially Create and ImmediatelyFast
ReplayJay
ReplayJayOP3mo ago
Yeah. I remember wanting to use shaders with it and using optifabric and the performance was just too bad to handle. Back when shader support was pretty bad anyways Yeah I hope so too. You wanna know the weirdest thing? They seem to be updating themselves I am just looking at the LODs and seeing them turn the correct color not even entering them or updating but its happening very slowly
UdderlyEvelyn
UdderlyEvelyn3mo ago
These both run with that combo fine on Forge with the current alphas - did it yesterday. And I was using older Create F because of addon compat.
That Guy
That Guy3mo ago
Yea that makes sense I am pretty sure that is how it is meant to work
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