Near-100% GPU Strain even at lowest graphic settings.
Unless I use Detail by Chunk, which looks horrible- I can't get my GPU to not be cooking while using this mod. Even without any shaders.
No matter what I do. I've set the graphic detail configs to Height Map and Lowest, and I'm not budging on setting the Max Horizontal Res to anything that isn't Block, unless the devs make it any less ugly than it currently is, because it's just not pretty enough to want to use 2 blocks or worse.
How is the mod this poorly optimized?
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What's your gpu
LMAO even on Chunk it jumps to 90%.
RX 580 Series
lol
That's supposed to happen
Afaik
Yep mod isn't optimized
What res are you using
Need a 4090 for this ig
1080p?
Or you mean the
block detail
It doesn't matter, any setting in the config cooks this gpu. Even Chunk
Does the noise map reduce performance?
No
Then what increases it
what fps are you getting
Because the FAQ just states "guhh if gpu usage high lower graphic detail"
the FPS is fine all the chunks shown are preloaded with chunky so its above 60
what fps are you getting
with shaders*
lol
Lol
without it's over 280-
Cap your fps
On chunk detail
That's supposed to happen
how is that gonna help with my gpu usage?
The gpu works on making as much fps as possible
Cap the fps
Then it'll work like
4x less
even with dh that happens
For some reason, Block detail gives me MORE fps than chunk detail.
How ???
Upside down ah mod
Might be cpu usage
cap the fps if you want it to not use 100% of your gpu all the time
That's literally it
Also using fast graphics on the clouds wont help
That worked! Thank you
Are you using optifine or sodium
sodium obvs
kk
now i just pray w shaders i dont cook again
cause my vanilla rendering breaks half the time, idk why
it renders the world in full pitch black
idk the cause
Is there any known fixes for that? If it is DH
RX 580 you say?
https://discord.com/channels/881614130614767666/905438118746947687/1264098396407599176
:linus:
If you look at LODs, you will hit 100% GPU usage solely from the card struggling to render billions of polygons. On the other hand, there's also that message I linked you with.
I am cooked
I didn't know DH required a 4090
Do you have Starlight installed? If so, then #black chunks?.
I'm on 1.20.1 so starlight and other mods that fix rendering should be pointless now though?
Starlight is only a neccesity on versions below 1.20 right
Fair enough.
For me it happens ONLY to vanilla chunks
not DH chunks
:thonkwithshades:
Now that's peculiar.
Idk whats causing this, but its not DH
if i look at the ground it flickers
and its just like dark
Not even placing light blocks do anything?
I dont think so
yeah no full black
Do you have any other mods besides the ones necessary for Distant Horizons?
Yea quite a lot
Supplementaries is listed as a incompatible mod and says it inverts the lighting on LODs, but that doesnt happen to me, and this is affecting vanilla chunks...
Somehow yours is the inverse of the inverted effects...
:harold:
Yeah no clue
Anyways, try removing a few mods so that we can try to rule out mod incompatibility.
/thanosmethod
Wait so no matter how much RAM i allocate, my game will eventually die ?
out of 16
OK SORRY BOT
i have 12 out of 16 of my ram to mc
Your (our) GPU can only render up to a number of triangles (polygons). If it reach astronomical amounts, even the mighty 4090 will be brought to its knees.
I mean, i have my render dist at 128 now. I used to run 512 or even 700 for some reason and it lived
The cap is at around 320 chunks at Extreme preset for the RX 580.
Well I never touched anything above the lowest of the lowest presets lol
The quality preset plays a huge role.
I think it being able to kill a 4090 says more about the mod's optimization and stability rather than the GPU
I just want it to not look like mush, which atm it does
doesnt seem to like modded trees much either
You will kill a 4090 at around 2048 chunks at Extreme. That's the hard limit of Distant Horizons itself.
At that point why even let anyone put in anything higher
Or not have warnings?
It only has them for when my CPU usage is too high and even then it's just cause i'm loading new chunks, I didn't know chunky was required for a playable experience (on CPU-contrained machines at least)
Because it would work fine on lower quality presets
You don't need chunky
/chunky
Is there any way to fix most modded trees becoming sticks
Chunky is known to cause LODs to turn into swiss cheese and bloat up world size, as can be seen in the attached screenshot.
We recommend you enable "Distant Generation" in Distant Horizons' settings and wait.
If you actually want to pre-generate vanilla chunks along with LOD data, disable Distant Horizons, wait for chunky to finish, then re-enable Distant Horizons.
Wait how long? 20 hours?
Do you have the passable leaves mod?
Yes
Is that what causes it
What do you mean?
Yep
Even at "I paid for the whole cpu" (risking my pc) it takes forever to load up LODs.
That preset is pretty naive in terms of CPU utilization.
I think DH should have a built in pre-load chunks option/feature because doing everything on the fly is kinda silly
So just like how most shaders dont let you go low enough, this mod doesn't let you go high enough
I'm too slow to respond to everything apparently.
:harold:
Thing is, chunky actually works pretty well for me and it saves my framerate and cpu usage
Just turn up cpu load, turn down vanilla graphics settings, and afk
Anyways, you can improve the performance if you dig deeper into the advanced options specific to threading.
I've done that and even after 20+ minutes only half the LODs were loaded, the ones behind me
:painschamp:
I'm too scared to turn stuff up too high, I have 12 threads and idk how many are smart to give to DH
Moving around a lot?
At least DH is smart enough to capped the amount of threads you can allocate.
+a lot of the descriptions sound vague to those who arent r/pcmasterrace
Yeah but too many will probably strain my CPU
Also, if i dont use chunky and enable Distant Generation- will those chunks then be generated?
You can balance the load. The advanced option is very configurable.
Yes.
is this a lot?
Cool
Forgot to put in the screenshot the settings i changed oops
Literally the one feature that differentiates Distant Horizons from other similar mods; built-in chunk generator.
are the other variables important?
Wait for me to finish typing, okay?
I wasn't aware that chunky causes half the visual problems up until now, it should be more public knowledge tbh caus all of the "increase your cpu load/fps with DH" videos say to use chunky
Okay Sorry i have 100 wpm lol
Here's a magic number for you:
12 threads..?
all of them?
Each line for each box.
I'm on my phone so,
:harold:
Have you put them in? How do you put them in?
Yes
it just puts my CPU to 100%, i need to generate a new world and see just how much faster this is compared to Chunkly
it was so bad my mouse was lagging in the menu lol
/swiss
Chunky is known to cause LODs to turn into swiss cheese and bloat up world size, as can be seen in the attached screenshot.
We recommend you enable "Distant Generation" in Distant Horizons' settings and wait.
If you actually want to pre-generate vanilla chunks along with LOD data, disable Distant Horizons, wait for chunky to finish, then re-enable Distant Horizons.
Prepared to be amazed.
Also for me it said that generating 128 chunks with chunky would take 2 months and it took about 2 hours with distant generation
Be right back. Duty called.
I made my radius 1000 and was still faster.
Also, My chunks are still swiss cheese. What gives?
Well I do have igpu and icpu so yeah
I don’t see any swiss
Dont use chunky! it turns your chunks into swiss cheese! Just use DH it has that feature built i-
Thanks.
Generating the chunks? is it though?
We did warned ya...
:harold:
????
Not visible on minimaps.
Also any explenation for this?
That error means Distant Horizons suffered a collision with other world generator.
Puhpine asked if you have Passable Leaves Blocks, which you replied yes. That mod seems to cause that to happen.
Thought it was smn to do with transparency
Wish it was listed as incompatible :'d
plus, how am i even supposed to know that I'm done rendering DH LOD's? I'm not gonna count 128 chunks am I?
Atleast chunky has a progress bar, with this i'm supposed to just eyeball it
Likely recent discovery. The list is not fully exhaustive, and with new mods popping up, it's somewhat hard to track them all.
Also if supplementaries works fine for me, why's it listed as incompatible
and whats happened w physics mod?
I dont plan on using the pro version since it's laggy
Mods are weird as sometimes they work other times they don’t
My computer isn’t supposed to run mc 1.21 but it does
It's been over 30 minutes now since I've left DH to consume my CPU fully and it's still refusing to load these corners.
Does it really take that long? I dont even know if this is half of 128 chunks.
Send F3 screenshot. That should give info on whether or not Distant Horizons is running.
I have BetterF3
Disable it please
Is it world gen tasks?
if so then DH could take another 4-5 hours to fully load :D
Is it done?
Doesn't look like it's done no
Of course you do.
:painschamp:
/slowgen
If it feels like LoD generation with
Distant Generator is too slow:
Try increasing CPU Load in Distant Horizons settings for faster generation, but you will experience more lag spikes and stuttering due to heavier workload on CPU.
To see if Distant Generator is really working or not:
1) Check CPU usage while in-game, using Aggressive settings of CPU Load. If CPU usage's hovering around 80-100%, the LoDs are generating in the background.
2) Go to DH settings > Advanced Options > Debug > Wireframe, set Enable Debug Wireframe Rendering and Show World Gen Queue to True.
Enabling both settings will show you the visualization of world gen tasks queued and working on the map (blue boxes for queued tasks, red boxes for working tasks)Might be useful
Wait, my internet is slow...
:harold:
Yeah they've explored this option quite intensively.
It's at "I Paid for the Entire CPU" and I'm giving MC all of my threads.
It's been like, 30 minutes.
Yikes, Zen 2 CPU.
:painschamp:
It's a AMD Ryzen 5 2600 Six-core
That's way faster than what you have lol
Do I need a 10900ik?
Zen 2 architecture is pretty bad for Minecraft.
r/pcmasterrace
Wait, that's Zen+, not Zen 2.
I'm only nerdy about phones and keyboards tbh
Even worse...
:harold:
Okay so why can't DH render everything at full throttle max settings even after 30 minutes?
Over 30 minutes, I started at around 9:16 AM, now its 10.
This is some pretty crazy prep times just to have 128 on DH
You have one of the worse (keyword: worse, not worst) processors to use with Minecraft.
:harold:
Don't recall seeing minimum hardware specs on the DH mod description but thanks
Thought 12 threads and 16 GB of ram was enough
Guess not.
I have an Intel Core i5-4570, it generates around 13 chunks per minute.
That took like an hour or so to generate 128 fully.
:harold:
DH runs on even the raspberry pi. You'll just have to wait longer
Yep
This same processor took almost a whole month to generate 2048 chunks, which is exactly what I've done for the past month.
Took me (technically) infinite time to generate 128 chunks as dh freezes my computer at about 100
Wow
Yes i'm bypassing your bot, cause that's funny.
Cost me a lot of valuable time as I couldn't play other games.
:painschamp:
You actually spent a month?
Use lol instead of breaking the rules
the 3 letter a word is not a curse word in any language and by defintion isnt. It's allowed even on roblox...
Well it’s not in this server
Outright silly to deem that offensive
Words are not just removed because they're offensive
But yeah, the bot is strict
Hope I don't get banned for saying ROFL or something
There aren’t curse words
Yes, well, on-off but totals to 30 days.
And I guess it's gonna get a bit stricter now as a new word needs to be added to the list
I don't even know what that stands for
Rolling on the floor laughing but the bot would probably want my head for it
Bro
Here’s what to think “would I say this to a 5 year old”
https://discord.com/channels/881614130614767666/905438118746947687/1239475198797807617
This brings back memory...
Was that in your house
Skibidi
So I just replaced my GPU issue with a new CPU load issue. 100% CPU usage on Minimal Impact, what gives?
:aolgroove:
Nope, it was in my workplace.
Also best to reply to it in that channel instead of here.
Yes I reset the threads stuff
Maybe try restarting your game, I'm not sure
It's wonky not full-on 100% but still suspiciously high
Is removing Passable Leaves going to fix the LODs or will I have to regenerate them
Is Cull Less Leaves compatible with DH?
I think you'll have to regenerate them but I'm not sure
Never heard of any complaints at least
You're safe. The bot bans based on behavior not IQ.
You got it ?
@kret ?
Kinda
I was also struggling
but it was beautiful in the nd
I got i5 10 gen
I got Gtx 1650
I have some recmondation
Set render distance to 2
Litrally disable every quality thing
And manaually move around the place you want to generate
I was able to complete in 30 min
dissable shader while generating
got it, thanks
I will be waiting for SS once you compltere
?
Im doing smn else rn
Whener you do
i am not saying right now
Also i don't think the mod is poorly optimized ( reading the above chat )
howd you get it to look so good
?
I got bliss shaders ?
and Dh ?
few other mods too ?
no like the chunks loaded by dh
mine look like playdough
Can you share a screenshot of what you mean?
SS
when i get on my pc sure
have you set quality to low ?
no
it was high
hmm
which shaders
Bsl
but even without shaders it looks the same
hmm
outside of reneder distance it looks like playdough
@Puhpine (GMT +2) do BSL even works ?
rip
im on forge btw
It looks this in this image
see the pink area
i fabric
wait ill show u when i get back on
Ok
Try using tectonic
whats ur render distance btw
also try using bliss
vanilla ?
yeah i have
Or Dh
ye
i play 16 / 12 or sometimes 32
kk
why ?
idk im mostly 12 16 too
only used 32 to test
Yes, if you have the correct version
looking at it now my game looks normal
so mb
but would you happen to know a shader compatible with dh that makes the water really dark?
huh
nvm
but would you happen to know why sometimes i can just see through the ground and its invisible
Like see DH through vanilla?
If so, alt tab from the game twice or change resolution and gp back
Also mare sure overdraw prevention is not at 0 or disabled, both in DH settings and shader settings
i mean it does this
i tried the things you told me and it didnt work
although i couldnt find overdraw in bsl settings
This is overdraw issue.
Vanilla chunks should cover that hole, but they did not load in time
The best fix is to make vanilla chunks load in faster, by .e.g. decreasing vanilla RD or installing some performance mods or to move slower
second best is to decrease the over draw prevention in DH setting, and if using shaders in shader settings
if you shader does not allow for overdraw tuning
make a feature request to the shader dev and/or change the shader
Kk thanks for the quick answer
no problem
also really sorry for asking again but would you know what could cause snow to float
Vanilla or DH?
Dh
does it also float in vanilla?
if you mean without dh no
I mean if you go there, does the snow disaper, move down or stays where it is in vanilla chunk when such loads in
no it stays even if it loads
So if you stay in that chunk you have a vanilla chunk with floating DH snow above it?
yeah
I don't think I will be able to help with no screenshot
its like if there was a tree there but i can go through it and its invisible
Kk
I have not seen it before
I have no idea
its ok i dont plan on going to any snowy plains
thanks for your help
normal to happen if your fps were uncapped
it is capped if ur talking to me
How do fps affect floating fake snow?
i was talking to title of post
flakes per second?