Embeddium and Oculus not working with supported Shaderpack

I've installed embeddium and oculus in order to use shaders with distant horizons, but every time i install the supported shaders the game gives me the unsupported shader message. I've checked multiple places for supported shaders and none of them have fixed my problems.
41 Replies
Piotr Barcz YT
Piotr Barcz YT5mo ago
use fabric, embeddium and oculus are a pain and buggy and in general just shouldn't be used
The lesan a gayb
The lesan a gaybOP5mo ago
is there any other solution, i've made my entire modpack on forge
Piotr Barcz YT
Piotr Barcz YT5mo ago
port as many of the mods to fabric as you can ooooor you use unstable releases of Iris and Sodium for Forge
The lesan a gayb
The lesan a gaybOP5mo ago
unstable like completely gamebreaking most of the time or rare crashes
Piotr Barcz YT
Piotr Barcz YT5mo ago
crashing all the time, visual bugs etc.
The lesan a gayb
The lesan a gaybOP5mo ago
shame
TheNewSky
TheNewSky5mo ago
Forge’s #1 hater right here lol Which shaders are you downloading and from where? For some shaders the latest release on modrinth/curseforge isn’t DH compatible
Miki_P98
Miki_P985mo ago
/shadersupport
YAGPDB.xyz
YAGPDB.xyz5mo ago
Distant Horizons and Iris Shader Support Requirements: - Minecraft 1.20.1, 1.20.4, 1.20.6, 1.21 - Sodium 0.5.8 or above - Iris 1.7.0 or above - Indium version 1.0.30 or above - Fabric API (latest version) - Distant Horizons version 2.1.0 or higher - Compatible Shaderpack: https://gist.github.com/Steveplays28/52db568f297ded527da56dbe6deeec0e
Gist
Distant Horizons shader compatibility info
Distant Horizons shader compatibility info. GitHub Gist: instantly share code, notes, and snippets.
Miki_P98
Miki_P985mo ago
Use the direct download from this Gist Don’t go to Modrinth or CurseForge as some of the shaders require the in dev alpha/beta/dev versions And yes, Oculus has a bit more Buga and is a bit more unstable, but it works correctly most of the time
Neχus
Neχus4mo ago
Oculus, sure. Embeddium, absolutely not.
Miki_P98
Miki_P984mo ago
Embeddium enabled experimental unfinished Sodium code, that is not enabled in Sodium because it can cause corruption. I never heard of it happening... but the Sodium author probably knows better what his code does At least never use Embeddium on fabric But this discusion is pointless because there isn't anything beside Embeddium on Forge
Neχus
Neχus4mo ago
What do you mean? Genuinely never heard off them enabling anything that could lead to corruption.
Miki_P98
Miki_P984mo ago
The Embeddium also has a fabric version, and the only thing that is different from Sodium is an experimental code that the Sodium dev didn't want to enable
Neχus
Neχus4mo ago
Okay, but what is that "experimental code"? That's what I'm asking.
Miki_P98
Miki_P984mo ago
From what I heard the Sodium dev had an argument with Embedium dev
Neχus
Neχus4mo ago
I really don't care about that (especially since the fault lies entirely on the sodium dev for freaking out over the embeddium devs messing around with a private fabric version, that wasn't ever meant to go public initially), I'm asking you about the experimental thing you kept bringing up.
Miki_P98
Miki_P984mo ago
IDK, code written by Sodium dev to enchance the performance, but in the end not enabled by the the dev for reasons Alpha code Beta optimalizations Untested yet code
hardester
hardester4mo ago
Experimental code such as transparency sorting. What it does? Renders transparent objects (glass, water, ice, etc.) accurately when any of them are placed in order.
Neχus
Neχus4mo ago
Oh, so the thing they wrote their own code for? That's it?
Miki_P98
Miki_P984mo ago
not exacly, it exists in Sodium, but the Sodium dev decided to not enable it yet
hardester
hardester4mo ago
Well, the only known risk for experimental code is that it may melt your GPU if it's not properly implemented. :harold:
Neχus
Neχus4mo ago
The sodium dev is writing one that's supposed to be more optimized, that they refuse to release in any sort of less-optimized state the embeddium devs made a slightly less efficient one that they decided to release right away and potentially optimize later
Miki_P98
Miki_P984mo ago
I'm not wither any GPU expert or shader expert or even a best programmer, but if a code author states a code to be unsafe I would rather listen to him I would love the choice, but it is in the dev's right to refuse it
Neχus
Neχus4mo ago
I'm trying to tell you that it's literally not the same code. The embeddium devs aren't using the wip version of the sodium dev's transparency layering, they're using their own.
Miki_P98
Miki_P984mo ago
I like embeddium, I don't like it stealing revenue on fabric from Sodium dev who is currently homeless This one maybe not, but I have no idea what got added or enabled And that is what Piotr Barcz YT might have had in mind
Neχus
Neχus4mo ago
The embeddium devs absolutely aren't stealing revenue. Jelly was complaining about the so-called "revenue stealing" before the fabric version of embeddium existed, it's her fault for not releasing a forge version of sodium themself. And the embeddium devs are literally even giving Jelly a split of the embeddium revenue, so she's getting extra revenue she wouldn't be getting otherwise.
Miki_P98
Miki_P984mo ago
Forge is their revenue And I don't care when Jelly was complaining. I complain now when Embeddium is stealing revenue on Fabric
Neχus
Neχus4mo ago
It's not stealing to have a fork of an open-source project.
Miki_P98
Miki_P984mo ago
I know, but you wont change my mind I still won't like what Embeddium was doing, even if it now redemed itself
Neχus
Neχus4mo ago
They've literally never been doing anything wrong though.
Miki_P98
Miki_P984mo ago
not in a legal matter, but the ethics are quastionable for me and everyone has its own personal standards fot them At the beginig: - Embeddium ported Sodium to forge -> Cool - Embeddium enabled unfished Sodium code while fixing it a bit and released in 95% unchanged code as its own fabric mod earning revenue from it -> really un cool and the problem for me personally Now embeddium might rewritten a bit of Sodium to perform even better and it is back in the cool territory but the scar remains in my eyes As long as the donation link in game points to Sodium dev donation page while Embeddium stays in >50% Sodium i'm passive towards it
Neχus
Neχus4mo ago
I've already explained that the "unfinished code" you keep referring to was neither unfinished nor was it jelly's work, it was the embeddium devs' own code that they implemented into embeddium. Also, the fabric release only came about as a result of jellysquid banning the embeddium devs from contributing to the sodium repository, over private discussions mentioning a conceptual hard fork. Which is sorta ironic considering it forced them to make a hard fork, achieving exactly what jelly apparently wanted to avoid. In other words, any consequences of the fabric version's existence are entirely JellySquid's fault.
Miki_P98
Miki_P984mo ago
Minecraft has a tendency to attract weird conflicts... Fabric / Quilt Forge / NeoFroge I will need to educate myself on this encounter better
Neχus
Neχus4mo ago
Here it is from the embed devs side.
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Neχus
Neχus4mo ago
Anyways in short, embeddium is FOSS still, and sodium isn't any more due to JellySquid's license changes, so I'd much rather support embeddium.
Miki_P98
Miki_P984mo ago
I need to see the Sodium's side first before drawing conclusions, but thanks for additional information Have a nice day It seems I was quite misinformed myself
D3SL
D3SL4mo ago
Minor necropost but there is also Xenon as an alternative to Embeddium. Some people have non-trivial performance differences.
hardester
hardester4mo ago
Xenon is unmaintained (from what I heard). harold emoji
D3SL
D3SL4mo ago
At this rate we're going to run out of elements and planets with all the forks. Modrinth and Curseforge will need to make a "Periodic Table & Astronomy" tag.
hardester
hardester4mo ago
There's also that transactinide elements if you want to be fancy. Maybe the "beyond super heavy" or even the "hyper heavy" elements. linus emoji
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