Style Spotlight: Streetwear - Topic of the day 6/22/24
Streetwear - what is it, exactly? Do you know it when you see it?
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erm if you wear it on the street it's streetwear š¤āļø
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ok Imma rephrase some thoughts I had in a discussion with some people in the server, @adaptation espicially
Streetwear is both a lens of looking at fashion, but also a descriptor of a core style that doesn't have other great descriptors
Would say in some regards its similar to some broad music genres like that
i think it is a lens that is fundamentally irrelevant to capital f Fashion and is essentially "this is what we think is cool", punk type shit. i think theres a lot of rock/punk/rap irrelevance in music that is similar to how streetwear is a lens
I can not overrstate enough that streetwear directly comes from a mix of hip-hop, punk, and skate culture and the clothes they wore. It started as counter culture in opposition to the runways. Its what people wore on the street, hence the name
And given where its started, its a style that is explicitly non-white for lack of a better term, it wasn't started by privileged white people at ivy league universities, or european fashion designers, it was started by generally poorer people in cities in the US during white flight
and i think thats a problematic way of saying that
but i suck with words and i think its important to note, this doesn't lessen its validity or anything - its the style today. In contrast to this server, when 90% of people get interested in fashion, its in streetwear
if they are under the age of like, 30
And now, because its arguably the biggest "style" in modern fashion, its influenced the capital f Fashion - runways, designer, AND its spread around the world and other cultures have really started to contribute to it
See: Off-White and Virgil Abloh getting hired by Louis Vuitton (and his sucessor, pharrel), see Denma's influence which comes from growing up in soviet republics and how that intersected with this, see Nigo's influence who started Bape and has long time had a massive influence (as a Japanese man) on streetwear (he is now creative director at Kenzo)
Theres punk, theres rock, theres skate (Supreme started as a skate company), it integrates from other styles (see: loheads, the modern intersection of streetwear and prep)
Its hard to describe but you know it when you see it
Anyway, lots of different takes on it now (lotta K-pop fashion is streetwear),if you really want an idea of streetwear its easiest to look at either street photographers (eg: @watchingnewyork) or streetwear brands (basketcase, supreme, stussy, etc) and see what how they style clothes
part of the confusion is people sometimes conflate sneakerhead culture with streetwear
while shoes are a fairly obvious marker that you're engaging in streetwear, i think there tends to be more within each fit, yet some of the criticisms of streetwear being excessive or tasteless are borne from people who wear the newest jordans with the most mid ass fit
the other criticisms are from people whose view of streetwear is stuck in 2015 or who are condemning it as a dogwhistle for their antipathy of minorities
Streetwear both isn't logomania, and even if it was logomania is cool actually
streetwear is to fashion as hiphop is to music. it was once "too Black" for mainstream white culture but now is core to the DNA of contemporary stuff
i think streetwear speaks to the democratization of fashion; it's a bottom-up model of influence where end users dictate the trends and brands either get lucky or have to play catch up
but also yes it's a lot of entities cribbing off of Black people
Thank you for the explanation. To me (as a person who never really engaged in streetwear) this was really helpful in getting what that was about
honestly streetwear is a catchall genre for anything that isnāt business casual or formal
And some business casual is even streetwear! Like ALD
with respect to mfa i think there's a larger percentage of people who attempt streetwear fits (even if the justification is 'i'm wearing sneakers instead of loafers #streetwear), it's just that it often gets wedged in with the other components of house style
I strongly disagree
in large part cause i don't think wearing sneakers makes something streetwear at all
especially since the most iconic americana shoes are cowboy boots (boots) and converse (sneakers)
and this server is some mix of americana, ivy, prep, and workwear, which allows sneakers to be worked in easily lol
that doesn't make it streetwear to me at all
There is no streetwear here
Itās like me (who I donāt even consider streetwear), damb (who doesnāt consider himself streetwear), smiles (who is honestly pretty prep streetwear coded), and eggtart???
Who elseās style is predominantly streetwear?
like smiles said, mostly newbies
i daresay it might be a feature rather than a bug - someone who dresses in streetwear asks for advice to either dress better usually winds up either in fatigues or andrews and suddenly they're in house style
No?
I really donāt see it that way
Thatās because everyone on this server is PRL Andrew-pilled and doesnāt give advice relating to what people who are into streetwear should get
We are projecting an ideal
And that ideal is not streetwear
speaking as a single person i generally avoid the question because of how nebulous of an aesthetic it is (unless it's 'should i wear harness boots with a tracksuit')
i fw streetwear still
shit's goated when u dont have a bitch in your ear telling you it's wack
There's a "uniform" in all the fashion servers I'm in - what mfad describes as "house" is really just a pre-approved rolodex of brands/garments that the server agrees on what's "hard/swag/fire"
And for someone new itās difficult to deviate from it because everyone is in an echochamber of what is the ābestā beginner shoe, pant, jacket etc
Things that are common here arenāt necessarily common irl
Thereās much more streetwear irl for example
Also yesterday was the first time Iāve seen a sub 30 year old wear a blazer casually going outā¦ ever
paraboots mean im not fire reacting even if I liked the fit otherwise be the change u want to see
Yeah, I have one friend offline who dresses trad and thats it.
And he has to wear an antifa button bc ppl keep mistaking him for a nazi in a grey suit
char & smiles are right tho there's basically no streetwear on this server and it's no surprise when the go-to advice is always "prl" or "dad pants are in now" which is just as corny as hating on logos when the question asker is v clearly looking for a different style.
It speaks to the (unconscious?) mindset a lot of people have that streetwear is easy or low effort imo. When someone comes in here and drops a handful of streetwear inspo pics and are recommended to read the basic bastard I always laugh so fucking hard because why would you recommend that lmfao
i wonder if the idea of a overton window applies to how someone understands streetwear vs not-streetwear
the irony being ivy is the most low-effort style beyond the basic bastard
Perhaps we just need to find a good streetwear server we can point these folx to
i do agree there's not really many great references on here (be it in waywt or links)
I mean I think if anyone is putting low-effort into their fits it'll show regardless of style. Like if someone looks like they were dressed via a guide that's a brick to me.
Ivy is basically "how to wear suits but make it more practical for everyday life"
i don't know if the issue is to cast those people away though - 'malefashionadvice' is kinda big tent, and that sometimes means getting people who like streetwear
idk if there's streetwear server options
:xd:
that too
have you seen r/streetwear or the 'streetwear' section of styleforum lately
they look ok they just don't look accessible at all
im not sure how their server is
i assume it's prob different
Yeah, but if streetwear is 90% of fashion and we still don't have a streetwear knowledge base on the server than maby we are not as big tent as we would like to be.
But your right
Sending them away is prolly the wrong move
I feel like I see good fits of stuff closer to streetwear by just scrolling on social media/seeing what people are wearing in NYC
I have a feeling streetwear is a bit of a nebulous term nowadays anyway
speaking of @watchingnewyork-
ngl i really struggle with liking 90% of the fits that i see from that account
the kind of streetwear i see on ig/tiktok is very different from the streetwear inspo i see shared here
it's the pornography rule in effect - 'i can't define it but i know it when i see it'
i think (and i could be wrong please chime in otherwise), the trend cycle for streetwear moves faster than other styles so giving someone inspo runs the risk of it being dated
'wear what you want to wear fuck trends, etc' is still true but it can be harder to find that point of reference if you don't know what you're looking for
This server isn't very eclectic for a broad male fashion scope
https://discord.com/invite/fashion
This one is pretty diverse
You can see a lot of different styles here
imo the difficulty is that streetwear tends to emphasize the individual's tastes and personality at a base level more than something like ivy, because fundamentally ivy looks "put together" in a broad, social sense. Collared shirt, jacket, trousers, etc - maybe they fit a bit funny or have weird textures to the random, unfashion brained onlooker, but it's still "smart" (dipshit word).
Ivy is the contemporary normcore imo
All my normcore friends from 10 years ago are now ivy
It's stupid easy to brick an ivy fit too but there's just more leeway to get away with it.
Like it's obv higher effort than average male quarter zip slim khakis but not weird or scary like avant garde or streetwear
Yeah I have a hard time thinking about what it was like building a wardrobe from the ground up
Also a lot of streetwear is ngl, having good taste in graphics/cuts
I've been buying gear for over a decade that my shit has been built out for so long
Which isn't the easiest thing to just guide someone to
this is the other thing & smiles is touching on it too rn
It's just knowing your body type, measurements, and like you said - taste
I've thought about trying a streetwear bb guide but idk how to tell someone about graphic tees - just pick good graphics
You can't teach taste I'm afraid
Like similarly you see both baby tees and oversized tees in streetwear
Knowing which cut to reach for when is vibes I'm afraid
Yup I got both
I need some baby tees
Depends on the vibe and season for me
Just get some youth xl tees and you'll be set
Streetwear is simultaneously the most accessible and hardest to teach
I also love size XL free people tees
Good looks
I'll check em out
I'll send you a link to the one I like
YES superb account for streetwear imo
Streetwear also is gonna have more microtrend variance to this point
Like Tokyo and New York are both gonna have a ton of streetwear, but they will look pretty different (cause they are different cultures on opposite sides of the world)
Any major city you think of that can dress with have some of their own quirks
I think streetwear is a more nebulous term nowadays because hypebeast culture is less of a phenomenon
even when hypebeast shit was at its peak that wasn't all streetwear. that's why it was called hypebeast.
Rip hypebeast forums
What examples are you thinking of?
Yah that is different
eggtart I really can't overstate how good your inspo drops are
And really good!
Wait your link originally brought me to the chickenwithclothes one
Is it just me being newer to fashion or are derbies a bigger part of streetwear nowadays?
Cannot emphasise this enough. Street wear where I live is very different to the city 40mins away (here very thrifting based, there you're gonna see a lot more brain-dead/pleasures/palace/story/needles/kapital) which is very different to London - and in London it varies depending on where in London you are.
Thank Tyler for that
Oh my bad, Mr. Baudelaire
It's just there's a big prep influence in streetwear rn
Tyler def played a part in that
Hence ALD being so big
Gosha had a really cool and kinda preppy collection
A decade ago
Lemme find rq
Hypebeast
Gosha Rubchinskiy 2014 Fall/Winter Lookbook
Gosha Rubchinskiy presents the lookbook for his eponymousĀ line's Fall/Winter 2014 collection. For
rip gosha
me possibly because i havenāt veered too far off yet into the realm of punk
but also yeah. streetwear is impossibly hard to define and to channel properly, because it largely is defined by taste and the most i can say in regards to graphic tees is āchoose your logos wisely if you want to wear a big fat logo on your chest but otherwise avoid them entirelyā and even that doesnāt cover all the bases
That is just
False
Lmao
Y'all really need to get over this fear of logos
My thoughts process "is this logo cool/iconic or do I fw the brand"
It's not that deep
This just comes back to what I said earlier
Just pick good logo tees
Also if you have swag a bad logo tee looks good too
Good is nebulous here
Also like, idk what graphic tees people here buy but 90% of them incorporate a logo
you don't wear logos because you think they're tacky
i don't wear logos because i know i have bad taste
we are not the same
There's a misunderstanding here, logos get a bad rep cause swagless people start wearing them not cause they aren't swag
Slightly aside but it was cycling kit that changed my mind on logos because all the best cycling kit is really heavy on logos and unashamedly embraces them as a design choice and they're great.
yeah like i said that's why i don't wear them š
Refusing to wear a soccer kit cause it has logos on it
Eg.
Actually ALD did a soccer kit and the made up their own brand logos for it and it looks terrible
Would be so much better with real brands
Their cycling kit was actually pretty good though.
Like banco de Leon bruh
This is really good and knocks off actual brands really well
Wish Chelsea had a collared kit
Honestly though, I think there's something in the idea that collabs that feel genuine are cool. Those that don't are bad. I know this is a hot take.
This is why I just buy vintage tees, ambiguous logos are sick
true!
this is just a bad copy of a juventus shirt
But also, if you don't like the logo on your tee, just cut the tag off and wear it inside out
ALD soccer feels like a cash in, ALD cycling felt like an actual cyclist was involved in the design.
That's what I do
If I see a vintage tee that fits well but I'm not a fan of the graphic, I'll just wear it inside out
Their Barca woven jerseys were good
It's just a blatant rip off lol
Or be more welcoming to streetwear here
it's so easy too
- don't be fuckin weird about logos or branding
- don't hand out the basic bastard to every single person (or any person tbqh but that's just me)
wow what a start
itās why i said it doesnāt cover all the bases
racing style things work fine
It's ironic that streetwear gets coined under basic bastard and there isn't much of it here
Yet the same 3-5 types of fits here get high praise constantly, wouldn't you deem that "basic"?
I think it all just goes back to context
When someone informed me yesterday that milsurp has been categorized into mfad's "house" I then realized that it's just a circle jerk of people on here picking and choosing what they think is valid
A uniform is born, and clone mode begins - y'all just made a new term for it, but it's just a nice way of saying "dressed by the internet"
Damb spitting truth
basic bastard is fine bc those people aren't looking to get into fashion as a hobby they just want to dress functionally for their business casual environments
i agree with the sentiments here but only to a point
i do not think the purpose of this server is to give anyone advice on streetwear nor does it have to be
i feel like i need to see some examples of ppl asking for streetwear and not getting streetwear answers
we don't not encourage streetwear it is simply a different demographic than what is present when you have a community titled malefashionadvice
or maybe theyre just not shouting they want streetwear and im not seeing the context at all
i truly do not think anyone is doing that eggtart which is why im scratching my head a little here lol
also not particularly fond of singling people out without naming them by saying "x fit made highlights but it's sooooooo boring am i right"
im understanding it as that we could assume that most qnas are asking for streetwear stuff even if they aren't explictly saying it but i find questions to be deprived of context most times
so i think its hard in general
i would, either way, like to see a mfad-compiled inspo album for streetwear as mentioned in a previous totd
also like... look at the age demographics. this isn't exactly a server the youth frequent and tbh i wouldn't be here if it was. NOT to say that streetwear is for the youth only but that is the primary demographic and also where the trendsetters are at
that could be a chicken and egg thing ngl
a lot of the intros are my age range :xd:
Or even younger lol
i've said this before but mfad posters aren't rly where i get my inspo from (which is completely fine) but i prefer the community by far
i don't think it's possible to have one or the other between a tight knit community and an echo chamber
Like high schoolers asking for what to wear get sent the basic bastard but that's also just a limit of the server which is fine
if there is i have not seen it
this mfad is an echo chamber n so was the last one, it's just the nature of a smallish community of regulars
It's usually younger people asking for advice, showing a few inspo pics that demonstrate they've obviously put some thought into what they wanna put on, and then they get the bb linked as a "start here" guide.
The problem with BB for very young people is I just don't think the OCBD is a basic for someone that age lmao
nah lmao never gave a fuck about the BB :xd:
It's not egregious, but it happens p consistently and it's not helpful if yall are truly looking to diversify
i think there is a BB streetwear edition but i dislike prescriptive stuff in general
i think how to breathe would is exemplar but that's not happening in a discord
i don't particularly frequent the advice channels because i feel im not qualified but will keep that in mind if i ever feel compelled to give some advice
Is streetwear not considered fashion for males? sounds like a pretty umbrella term to me
it's deeper than that, you have to look at the history of this community which has always mostly been people just looking to dress "adult" aka workplace professional
it's been what like 15 years abouts? i just don't think those roots are ever going away
that will always be the vast majority of people who come here
I used to post in male fashion 7+ years ago
It wasn't that narrow
Reddit
From the malefashion community on Reddit: WDYWT - Vacation
Explore this post and more from the malefashion community
This one did really well and didn't follow the rolodex
yeah if you mean r/malefashion that has always been a more open primarily leaning avant garde sub
whereas mfa was uhhhhh not that
also i remember this post lol damn
I got them mixed up, I think mfa at that time was mostly Oxford shirts, barbour bedales, APC denim, and desert boots
yea pretty much
that core dna hasn't really gone away apart from the regulars
i think this idea of "we are semi-hostile to streetwear so mind as well give up" is just so bad lmao
I agree with this tbh
I feel like people here are kinda aggressive towards me for whatever reason
its just self fufilling to me
if we are i truly haven't seen it and i hope you don't think that's what i mean
I used to dress "house" in 2017 when I had fashion ego death
we should be open to streetwear but simultaneously we have not fostered that kind of community ever and have in fact referred them to r/streetwear when we were on reddit
the need wasn't there
anyone who comes here for streetwear notices theres no streetwear in #waywt , half the people look like they work in an office even on the weekends, people who do post streetwear don't do particularly well in #waywt , and the advice is slanted away from streetwear (fucking someone mentions streetwear and half the server links 10 year old memes at them)
and people here go "ya thats the way it is, nothing we can do"
I just looked through streetwear and honestly a good chunk of the fits can work here
like no that does not have to be the way it is
step 1 is having mroe people here into streetwear
and everything else will get better
i just saw this on r/sw discord this is heat ngl
there's been some user overlap in the past 100% but yes i agree w u
"work in an office even on the weekends" has me dead š
Yeah that guy posts consistently good stuff
im gonna go compile another inspo drop :xd:
can u clarify if you mean me by this lol
Too gorpy/Japanese for me tho
2019 me would have loved that
rn yes, but its come up before
its just general resistance to change
like last month
ive complained about this before
it's truly just my observation and there is no resistance on my part
i started with streetwear, it's still a part of me i think
I'd be curious to see how the heavy hitters on the server fair in the fashion server I linked a few hours ago
theres a reason @char.myshopify.com 's always talking about how his least favorite fits hit highlights and his favorites languish in the 20-30 range
server fit battle would go crazy
i feel like i am being misinterpreted though and am just gonna duck out
I think a lot of the dudes here who get back rubbed by mfad constantly are being blinded by a narrowed perspective
i think my problem is just, this idea that this server shouldn't cater to streetwear is stupid
im not asking for it to become a streetwear server
It's cool to see how other people dress and how someone's outside perception can affect how you think about your next fit(s)
im just saying this server could be less hostile to it
and ya, i never dress ivy and i don't like it when ive tried, but i love the prep side of streetwear, so being able to talk to people who dress ivy is great
but i don't have a ton of people here to talk to about the streetwear side
and its true for like, any style
every style has something to teach you for your personal style
Agreed
i also think there were a few noticeable departures in terms of providing different aesthetics
That's why I love four seasons, it gives me the chance to lean into one aesthetic more than the other
I don't touch any of my tech/gorp shit in the summer at allll
Go to the techwear server and you have dudes wearing tech all year round
not to say that's a vacuum that can't be filled but someone has to be willing to put shit on especially for something nebulous as streetwear
yes, but i think a little less hostility to it starting with the advice and general attitude for that will pay dividends down the road
like half the people who dressed great a year ago don't post or left the server
the server has absolutely narrowed since ive been here
that's what i was getting at, yes
This server is hella homogenous
And the fact the biggest style is met with hostility is kinda a bad look
You are right. That was not okay of me.
thatās clothes, right?
theyāve always got good stuff
yeah it is
iāve learned a lot tho about how layering and patterns and yes even the logo shirts work from being here and even just lookbooks
tbh i still have to wonder tho if my looks donāt score well on the basis of them being street-adjacent fits (because i donāt know where exactly mine fit) or because iām still fundamentally missing things
and the lack of verbal feedback tends to make it hard to gauge
This is the way itās always been done is a horrible argument and is used to excuse a lot of atrocities
for like the fifth time it is not an argument it is an observation
the internet has poisoned u into thinking everyone tryna argue
that ain't me
Yo if youāre looking for feedback I suggest using that channel. Totally understand that gauging is hard to do from reacts alone.
However, there used to be a social convention of giving āfeedbackā in WAYWT on Reddit that mostly was just people being mean so the server has definitely shifted away from that
tbh itās for the better
i would probably leave if i posted fit and was immediately met with spewing disgust
You can always post in #styling-suggestions or make a fit doctor thread in #questions-and-advice - that's the best way to get some fresh perspective and workable feedback.
threadās up. finally
Did we ever decide what streetwear is
Have you seen how expensive vintage jncos are rn? š
What do you think benji
Streetwear is when I wear a big t shirt
I just donāt post it most of the time
i second that emotion
for the sake of transparency there are fits for which i've interpreted streetwear, not unlike when i do riffs on westernwear but didn't label it as such because see previous 200 posts
I'm gonna invite some people to the server that can add some more street flavor to waywt
This was a really enjoyable read
Probably a unpopular idea, but you might help increase diversity by eliminating highlights, which presents as a showcase of ābest fitsā to aspire to, when itās actually closer to āpopular fitsā for different reasons
If your goal is highlights, thereās almost a necessity to fit in
Highlights is kind of redundant too with the monthly top of waywt posts and totd's to be honest
And does seem to be one thing that contributes to a lot of the negative energy
Would you guys be okay with it if I push a totd just for people to post streetwear inspo
Paris fashion week needs to go first tho I'll wait
Oh wait today didn't went yet
yeah it's gotta be explicit tho so we don't rehash discussion lmao
like no text posts only pics
something similar to the ivy inspiration thread where the intent was posting pictures to use as a reference
In place of highlights, you could have a regular totd where individual members post their fav fits posted that week
You'd have more indivduals "highlighted," more encouragement, a greater range of styles and fits
I like this idea too
and i think people explaining why they liked a fit could help bridge the gap between aesthetics
someone posting what they liked about a streetwear fit would make it easier to appreciate it even if you don't dress that way yourself
Yeah, as someone who has very little connection to streetwear I would find that interesting.
Like in general a format of "lets analyze why this fit works" with select fits could be fun as well.
Streetwear is so vibes based Iād have a difficult time saying why a fit is good other than itās hard as fuck
You kinda have to just be exposed to a lot of it and then realize whatās played out or whatās revolutionary or something
People can also have completely different reactions to the same fit and theyāre all valid. I.e. someone in a solid cropped hoodie wide pants draped on black sambas fit
I think itās v solid but honestly black sambas are played out
But others might like it
I feel like the overall sentiment in here is that if it's not loafers, a collared shirt or a Blazer it's automatically streetwear
Or a graphic tee equates to streetwear
Which it isnāt
i would actually really like a cropped hoodie damn
Iām saying streetwear being not business casual
Iām looking for one
Women's Uniqlo
You're welcome
Ik theyāre played out but I want the basket case hench hoodie so bad
Iāll check it out ty for the rec
I have two they suck
really? i see
will also check
Huh really?
Why so
Arms are too wide
My next thing is a gray cav empt hoodie
Oh I fw the wide arms
Still into it
Basketcase is made for people who are 6'4
I'm over it
Yea it is
People who can wear skinny legged flares and still look good
Yea I gotta get an S on the hench hoodie lmao
I have a s
It's aight
Hmm do u have pics
How tall are you
The old hench hoodie is better than the new version
I'm 5'9
Damn
Okie
New one is ass
Cav empt it is
Old one is better
Yeah lemme. Get pics of both rq
I have a perfect fitting Chinese hoodie I got in Chengdu lmao I want the dimensions with a zip
hench v1
hench v2
Like I said, women's Uniqlo is awesome - I have a zip cropped hoodie from them I love
V1 is so much better graphics wise too lol, but ya these aren't cropped
womens uniqlo crop (size large)
If I was 6'2 they would be šš
Thereās a new hench out I thought
I wanted a plain hench 2
The v1 graphic is v good
That's a v2 hench papi
It just has a screen print
It's the same blank
Iāve seen them around but i donāt like the hench 1 proportions
Ah I c
Go for women's uniqlo tbh, you can try it on in-store and it's only $30
Truuuu
Ty for the rec
i feel like that's a rather broad take which, admittedly, i partook in 24 hours ago
i can recognize that there's some outdated tropes about streetwear swirling around mfa and the internet
@pc if you have something to say type it out rather than passive aggressively putting a react š
but, even accounting for the fact that it's vibes based to an extent there's still a gap between some of the fits presented and biz-caz, weejawnz meta
What's weejawnz
You have to bear with me, a lot of the stuff here I don't know about
separate community whose aesthetic you've just deacribed
Idk what a ocbd michaels or ald are
Nor do I really care to find out but I'm very removed from the meta here
Got ittttt
Weejawns is actual people who might have some sus opinions
my point is that it's pretty obvious few people here have a clear understanding of what streetwear is but comments like this don't help move the needle
Okay how can I help
I thought I was being helpful by inviting people who don't fit mfad clone mode
i appreciate the influx of new people posting fit
And this is the entire reason why I thought this topic is ironic
Asking this server what streetwear is is ironic
but afterwards saying "oh hey the consensus of this community on this one topic is wrong" and then offering nothing else to say after everything that got mentioned yesterday doesn't strike me as helpful
but the answer could just as well be "log off mfa and touch grass so you learn what streetwear is"
The thing is Ivy, prep, trad etc all have a set of rules
And theyāve been the same set of rules forever with slight variations
or it could be ironic and i'? misreading, who knows (not me)
Streetwear is very at the moment
So you canāt define it bc the definition changes literally every day
Okay so let's just flip it for a sec
Imagine going into a streetwear server and the topic is "what is menswear"
Most people there wouldn't know how to answer that
Hence irony
would the people on the streetwear server have an obligation to answer that question
does this lead to a lot of fast fashion and waste?
No but neither do we?
I'm not obligated to talk about clothes am I
or are they free to say "visit r/streetwear peace"
cool
Idk man!!!
i guess i don't see the point in having a discussion be completely based in irony but that's me
At the end of the day it's just for fun right? We dress well so that we feel good about ourselves ya??
That's why I do it at least
I don't do it for reacts or backpats from guys online
absolutely
maybe, as someone interested in clothes, i (or someone) wanted to know more about it
but we're good, i learned something š
love and light
And wouldn't you say knowing more about clothes means diving into stuff that you're not familiar with?
Could very well
Idk how you're reading my tone but I'm never inflammatory
I'm here for the sake of discussion, I could really care less about what you guys think about how I dress
so would you consider this thread a way to dive into this or no
This isn't new to me, I've been on fashion forums since 2010
And people used to be fucking DICKS
we're both recognizing game and i'm fully aware this is online fashion discourse on gentle mode
Definitely but the scope of the server is so narrow that I think we'll benefit from more variation when it comes to discussions that don't fall under ivy/prep/house/yaddayadda
how does one have a healthy discussion then?
I'd say it's gentle mode for the most part with the exception of some people who feel agency to sneak diss and be assholes because they have mod privilege
like i could say "it's just vibes, search #streetwear on ig" and that is probably correct
That shit is whack ngl
Yeah thatās how id do it honestly, just exposure
But honestly people who tag streetwear are horrible at it
You just gotta have ur favorite celeb
Like mine is Peggy you
i am not a mod and encourage you to bring up your issues to the actual people
More variation I guess, I don't think someone who wears blazers and collared shirts 6/7 days a week can genuinely say what streetwear is, does that make sense
I'm not losing sleep over it, nor does it matter at the end of the day, just an observation after being here since October
who is that referencing? if it's me 1) i'm not a mod and 2) i walked it back
Not you, you're not the only one here who wears blazers consistently
I'm generalizing, just look at top wawyt
It's 80% blazers and collared shirts
And that's fine!
okay but who of those people actually chimed in here
No idea
I bring it up because you asked why I think it's ironic for mfad to quantify what streetwear is
At the end of the day I value the discourse
The debate and discussion is great
People just get hella cagey here real quick
making generalizations on who does or does not have credentials to have a suitable discussion without any other backing is shady
It's not that deep
I mean I think itās fair
It's not
I got no fucking clue what streetwear is
What other evidence do I need
Do I need to write a dissertation
no you're right
He's just saying it's a little funny and ironic
Which it is
thank you
Mfa discussing streetwear
i understand and apologize for derailing the discussion
Nobody knows whatās streetwear
Itās provocative
Art in my broadest definition of streetwear art u wear streetwear
Itās true
Like if u showed up in your suit and jordans id be like bet
Iāve been drifting away from ivy lately
In the sense that a glacier drifts
FWIW I like your style a lot
Thanks
park hye jin I guess
Park hye Jin is amazing
Her, Peggy and yaeji the goats
Chuck had elements of streetwear, so does Leisurely when he wears Jordans, so do puma and sal sometimes
my phone sucks right now so i am unable to offer photo proof
Pumas goated at dressing
Heās just a fucking troll
Itās crazy but the time rej ms painted a pair of Jordans onto chuck in tailoring completely altered my style
Her tattoos are so good
I remember that
Lmao
I noticed a change but wasnāt sure when it happened
One year ago the discourse was sneakers and tailoring bad
that said i kinda want a pair of chunky sneakers lmao
The classic NBA on TNT
or else i just need to wear the vans more
Peggy is the only chick I've seen really rock the fine line tattoos
It just matches her personality imo
It's one of those things that if you have swag you can pull it off
Too many artists called peggy
(two)
Context
I'm converted
Ya they both wear streetwear
She
lol
Xd
Thereās man Peggy and woman Peggy
J peggy
J press
I wouldn't really consider jpeg the same kind of style icon that Peggy Gou is tbh
Iām so fucking high
i always likened sneakers + tailoring to streetwear though it's a swag check
Johnny Knoxville has always been a style icon in my eyes
He rocks that suit + chucks vibe really well
Jeff Goldblum wishes he were Knoxville imo
i think they pull from different modes - goldblum has a clear preference for capitol f Fashion hence why he wears the goofy prada
that said anyone from the thps games would fall under the umbrella of streetwear- i think chad muska and bam (for better or worse) are known to some extent for how they dressed
Muska definitely had his own thing going for a longggg time
also i know TTC gets credited for his influence in style but i daresay he benefited from andre3000 existing first
But I also loved the ZERO skateboards aesthetic at that time of THPS
every millenial had or attempted to dress like that in the late 90s lol
I feel like a3k got a ton of influence from Prince
Remember when hot topic was scary
jesus fucking christ yes š
hello kitty shirts are the fast track to Satanism, bet
Satanism and mental illness š
Aesthetics really had clear cut lines back then
speaking of hello kitty and americans appropriating Japanese culture, lamb era gwen stefani was a moment
Everything is so muddled together now
Not that that's a bad thing
but in hindsight a giant red flag
i appreciate the muddling of the waters
Lamb era or harajuku Gwen?
Or are they the same
the two were the same no
Yeah that would never fly now
there was a short turnover from lamb era "what you waiting for" Gwen and "I'm best friends with eve" era gwen
Blow ya mind still bangs idc!!!
technically streetwear and probably one of the first visible instances of streetwear getting co-opted by high fashion
and white people
i mean we had a whole discussion about separating the art from the artist that got derailed once people started being neolibs
Did Michael Jackson get brought up?
I have so many friends that are split on him after the doc
it was in the confines of fashion but veered heavily towards the ethical manufacturing of goods
rather than calling out kanye west or galliano as anti-semites
I usually duck out when things get political
Too hairy
As everyone should
Not worth discussing on here
For the record, if you have an issue with anyone including members of the mod team, it benefits everyone to let us know through modmail
fellas am I Streetwear
no (ur not wearing it on the street)
I don't see panda dunks so probably not :(
Famn
I took a power nap and this thread continued without me
update just bought a pair of nb 574s mfa's influence
that blue shirt go crazy is that jjva?
yessir, SS24
i wear the heck out of my gray 574s. you'll get some good mileage out of them
@filthy_casul some awesome pics in your inspo drop
regrettably I've lost a lot of inspo over the years i haven't seen since when i switched phones. will be backing up everything going forward this time for sure
looked up old muska pics and idk what kind of spiritual awakening he had recently but I'm into it
Just looked at his IG he went full granola lifestyle
Love to see it