EXTREME lag spikes
whenever i play dh with shaders and load in i my framerate aint even that bad its like 80-120fps but somehow i keep getting lag spikes ive tried everything i changed alot of dh settings and all that but all that lag spikes still happen and its to a point where its not playable the strange thing is that even when i disable dh in the settings of dh i still get lag spikes even when the lods arent activated but when i completely delete dh from the folder i dont get lag spikes at all
mod im using:
sodium
iris
indium
fabric api
c2me
dh
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How much ram have you allocated
8gbs
which from what i know is more then enough right?
Yea
What’s your CPU impact set to?
In the DH settings
low impact
as i said
i minimized all the settings of dh
that i could
What vanilla render distance are you on?
2
but then i changed it to 8
then 12
and it was the same no matter what render distance
So the lag spikes only happen when shaders are on?
The 80-120 fps without has no lag spikes at all?
What shader are you using?
when they are on and not
bliss
it happens even when dh is disabled in settings
but when i deleted dh it didnt give me spikes
so issue is with dh
You got the dh compatible version?
If so, I have no idea what is happening
yes i do
2.1
idrk what to do here
Alright, send screenshot of your F3 menu with frame-time graph here then.
sent
Holy that's, awful.
haha
i dont undertsand anything thats on the screen so can u explain?
Also, maybe shrink down your GUI scale. Many elements in that F3 menu got cut off due to how big it is.
alr
Ideally set it to 2 based on your screen resolution.
ah wait u want me to do it to 2?
at 2
there
Alright, now everything fits in the screen.
sooo??
Distant Horizons doesn't seem to do anything much at all.
so what am i supposed to do here?
The fact that your game tick also suffered means something has definitely went wrong.
Does the same issue happen without Distant Horizons?
no
even without shaders
i get stuttering
Only with Distant Horizons? Peculiar.
Long shot but, try removing or disabling C2ME.
ight
huh
i dont seem to be stuttering anymore
i mean
there is still some here and there
but its playable?
Is the frame-time graph looking better?
idk how to tell lol
Are you seeing less of those red spikes than the ones in the screenshots you sent?
wait nvm
i still have alot of stuttering
xD
and the lines are like
i would argue that there is the same amount of lines if not more
:harold:
Yeah there's virtually nothing changed.
Last ditch effort, try deleting the config file for Distant Horizons to reset it.
WDYM?
sorry caps
how do i even open the config file for dh?
wait nvm found it
nope didnt work
im fully convinced there is no fix to this
having this issue too
Does changing to another shader work?
If so you may or may not have a incompatible shader
This could be related: https://discord.com/channels/881614130614767666/1249467476333564016/1249681328144650261
no
bc when i turn off shaders
same thing happens
its the same for mew
still getting lag spikes
i updated my drivers
and it happened less
I get 120 fps ultra photon without DH
dh is the problem im sure
but i have no idea how to fix it
no one i have talked to seems to know
ye
what shaders do u use
bliss
i am using photon 1.0a
k
im sitting around 50-75 fps
not very smooth
im sitting at 55-120
the spikes are crazy
ye
it goes from 55 to 120 in like 2 seconds
49% cpu to 100% in 2 seconds 💀
bruh
💀 ]
alr i gtg revise spanish ill come back in a few hrs
my game is playable
but not smooth
i would agree
Try adding mod: FerriteCore
And add this java custom flags:
- This if they won't crash:
- This if the above ones crashed:
Remember to preserve the memory allocation flag, if your launcher does not have a separate memory field or slider
Preferably try both potential fixes (mod and flags) separately and combined to see what works best
Is your entire system running out of memory that frame time graph is really bad lol
having the same issue
and my game crashed after i took this ss
Increase ram allocation
to what
Minecraft
how much
GitHub
GitHub - brucethemoose/Minecraft-Performance-Flags-Benchmarks: Sane...
Sane, Benchmarked Java Flags and Tweaks for Minecraft - brucethemoose/Minecraft-Performance-Flags-Benchmarks
6-12
nothing changed
or no wait its not spiking anymore
its smooth 20 fps!
the graph got better tho
Dawg, 9000/12000mb
Ofc it was stuttering
Oh my lord
what
i set it to 12
You allocated 4000mb earlier
Allocation rate what now
Holy christ
11855 MB/s
What's your lod render distance
What’s causing that lol
256
That shouldn't cause alot of problems
What dh version of using
What the sigma
0-0
Dang
2.1.0a
What's happening to bro's pc😭🙏🙏
😭
It's just vanilla correct?
fabric yes
With lithosphere ig
Try this stuff
He has a good cpu, he should use generational zgc instead
Also try making Minecraft use a different jvm
Preferably something like azul zulu jdk 21
Also make sure you have mods like ferritecore
You need to manually download it doe
Ferritecore ftw
i have openjdk
that also works
Azul Zulu has a faster compiler doe
But i think your problem is quite literally just g1gc being trash
Use zgc
and if you have jdk 21 use Generational zgc
That's the extent of what I know tho
Generational zgc for Minecraft isn't well known
Did a quick read on generational zgc and it claims to fix the issue I had with the normal zgc
Gotta try that later
so i just need to add
-XX:+UseZGC -XX:AllocatePrefetchStyle=1 -XX:-ZProactive to my arguments?
is that itYes
Preferably replace proactive with XX:+ZGenerational
ok i switched to azul zulu and added the arguments
Just cus it's a tiny bit faster
this happens when i move
I think you need to add -XX:+ZGenerational to make it generational zgc
XX:+ZGenerational is a tiny bit faster
Nvm you just said that
Like 10ms to 1ms
😭🙏🙏
😭
How y'all getting yo Minecrafts running so bad
Do you have ferritecore
it run any modpack i played with shaders with no issues 😭
yes
Did you forget to install a cooler on your cpu or something. That cpu should be running much better lol
Im spectating rn
forgot to mention
Probably forgot to remove the plastic off his cpu cooler yk
Happens to the best of us
its at 40 degrees Celsius without changing a lot
40 while running Minecraft?
i have liquid cooling
Like a custom loop or just an aio
aio
Try the zgenerational thing
XX:+ZGenerational
i did
😭
Increase it to 16gb?
silly ahh game
How is bro stutterin on the best pc in the world
cyberpunk runs better
Literally just bliss and dh
Did you disable half your cpu cores or something
nah
I once did that
Are all the lods loaded?
Got a Screenshotof utilisation of all Ur components?
All threads are being utilized
For what????1!1!1!1!1?1!1
good question
Did you set it to ipaidforwholecpu
all are at 0% before i join the world
Option
On cpu load
no
maybe
wait
Did you download a bitcoin miner
Where’s all that power going
its on low impact
it hammers the threads
😭
huhh???
thats not low
Check processes?
What's your launcher
Oh prism
yeah
bro😭
its all on java
@l_aggy
There's gotta be a bitcoin miner in java somewhere
true
i feel like im doing something wrong
Restarted pc? Idk wth is happening with Ur game
but i might be wrong
All of the lods are loaded, gpu is barely sweating and cpu is having a mental breakdown
All of it is on Minecraft
i can join a vc and stream to help debug this 😭
😭
/slowgen
If it feels like LoD generation with
Distant Generator is too slow:
Try increasing CPU Load in Distant Horizons settings for faster generation, but you will experience more lag spikes and stuttering due to heavier workload on CPU.
To see if Distant Generator is really working or not:
1) Check CPU usage while in-game, using Aggressive settings of CPU Load. If CPU usage's hovering around 80-100%, the LoDs are generating in the background.
2) Go to DH settings > Advanced Options > Debug > Wireframe, set Enable Debug Wireframe Rendering and Show World Gen Queue to True.
Enabling both settings will show you the visualization of world gen tasks queued and working on the map (blue boxes for queued tasks, red boxes for working tasks)Try the second one
Maybe lithosphere + terratonic tanks cpu load majorly?
Do you have a 3000 entity count mob farm or smth?
Have U tried switching distant horizons off and seeing if u still have bad performance
its a new world i wanted to try the new version out 😭
You set the java installation in the prism setting to the unzipped azul zulu file?
specifically Javaw.exe
no i installed zulu with intellij
oh ok
like all the other java versions
Also try what he said
Fr
when i turn it off in the settings i get a null exception 😭
💀
What version of iris
Dang
I think the null exception and hall of mirrors bug are the bugs the Iris and Dh dev are both working together to solve
By "working together to solve" I mean, "Holy good god we both don't know what causes it"
happens
Try a modpack with most performance mods pre installed e.g simply optimized or the fabulous one
Don't use those
Just use adrenaline modpack
why
Cause of mod compatibility?
Fabolously optimized focuses on optifine alts
Simply optimized dev doesn't know what he's doing
lmao
Lol
Adrenaline modpack is basically simply optimized but with more love and care
By love and care ig changing a few settings so the mods don't screw things up
what about Adenosine 👀
I think Minecraft dh on 1.20.6+ is just having a seizure
fr
Every single new #help-me thread is 80% 1.20.6
Imma try adrenaline rn
i mean 1.20.6 is a minor hotfix update
1.20.5 added armadillo
But no mod dev really cares
its probably because a lot of ppl come from a youtuber that posted a video about shaders being compatable with dh
Mod devs should just skip 1.21 tbh
Unless mojang pulls an uno reverse and adds huge amounts of content
No way they made an op weapon just for the laugh of it
Trials and chambers r cool right?
doesnt 1.21 add the new nbt system?
U tried adrenaline?
emmm
yeah
Good or still bad
i just added dh
and loaded a world
Alr
and my game is not responding 😭
What mods are in adrenaline
I haven't used it yet
i cant even put the game window in fullscreen
Launching adrenaline
Dawwgg
I'll tell U 1s
Are you the 0.01% of amd users that actually have their drivers just turn their pc into a nuclear bomb😭🙏
wait i just cant put it in fullscreen?
why
Wait..
Oh nvm
Silicon lottery
Im stupid
👀
New fix?
Nvidia users try not to slander amd drivers challenge (impossible)
I'm on a potato
I think 1.20.6 is just pure AAAAAAAAH
Mb, I wasn't talking about you
ok it seems to work
'work'
but i cant fullscreen the window for whatever reason
Does dh still do the
"AAAAAAAAAA"
no
:D
OH WAIT
Live cpu reaction
Ruh roh
what is this
Walltext
Oh god
Long error
Why is that
its there all the time when im not focusing the game window 😭
Huge red box
Does your Minecraft installation have a creepypasta in it??
😭
"Guys, I downloaded this minecraft exe from behind the dumpster at my local tech shop"
"And then herobrine came out😱😱"
O-O
Adrenaline works fine for me
What is happening
What does it say
yeah it works fine but the line appears when im not focusing the window
Ah yes,
[red box background]
AJBDAKSBKZWBSmqgsjdksbqKSBSWMHDISWJ
Now imagine if you can change that funny error into an img
^^
funny
what does what say
What is that
a rectangle
Doesn't look like it really causes an issue ngl
Unless it does for U then idk how to fix it
Ominous rectangle at the corner of the screen
Does it only happen in the menu?
And not ingame
no its in game
and in the menu
but only if the window is out of focus
Oh it's that
Frametime graph
Oh my gaaaaaa
That's without dh enabled?
Or with?
with
It's like that as when Ur out of focus it ignore MC and prioritizes the process Ur tabbed in on
Why are all your cpu cores turboing??
It's only 128
idk
its 256
still
That's child's play
your cpu will probably only throttle when it's 1024
oh wait send dh settings
Might be something in the settings
my game just crashed 😭
not the sound engine
😭
and the database
This is some issue
Did you update drivers
what drivers
I'm starting to think it's not a Minecraft problem
Gpu and stuff
GPU at 0
i can do a full update
of everything
try ig?
Windows updater is dumb
im not on windows tho 0-o
O
Linux?
linux
Ohhhhh
.
i thought btop gave it away
Ye I was wondering what app the thing on the right was
its ok i can just wait for dh to update
a couple of times
and pray it works then!
Driver version?
which driver
mesa?
Out of my knowledge at this point ngl wait for smarter people?
yes
Wait for smarter people
the bot is wilding
This bot isn't smart enough
i didnt even swear 😭
Rip
How 😭
R U hyper smart person
I might have negative chromosmes
Oh
Might be able to contribute tho
Hit me
Givemefox is getting issues with DH related to performance
No one really knows why
1st issue what is givemefox
The person whose having an issue
Oh
They got a good system asw
Assuming you’ve gone through all the generics like settings, mods, etc
Im having similar problem
What's Ur specs and specific problem
4080 super, i5 14600k, 32gb ram
Slow performance
Choppy
Laggy
Not quite like the abomination ive seen
With DH on right?
Yep
I needa revise chemistry
Off is all fine?
Otherwise i will fail
Sorta
Tmr?
It lagged to beginnwith
Yes
Same
Cya
Cya
Gcse?
Ye lol
Lol
Im cooked
Done no revision
💀
It's paper 2 relax
Grade 5/6 on mocks
Its chemistry im panicking
Lol
Triple too
Actually finished
Well U should stop using discord rn yk
Probably
U gonna revise rn?
Im sitting at my desk
Past papers and books out
Not using them
Bruh what
the bot doesnt like f
Focus on the books ngl
Ye fr
Wye
Alr cha
Cya
Ysud
Cya
Gl
If you can be bothered check your cpu gpu drivers with whats the latest on amds website
I mean u said cyberpunk ran better
so i don't really think its to do with drivers
try a nightly build maybe
found on github
#links-n-downloads
ight
i think
bro i was gone for 1 night
there is now almost 500 messages on this thing
xD
i added some of the mods u guys asked me to
ima try now
still getting lag spikes
didnt do nothing
ima add more ram
Introducing Generational ZGC
ZGC was updated as part of JDK 21 to be a generational garbage collector. What does this mean for your Java applications? Let's take a look.
yo hold up
yoooo
it actually is a bit better
but when i added ram earlier it didnt do anything
strange
now im still getting lag spikes
but i would say its playable
nope nevermind
worked for 2 seconds
not anymore
What's your lod render distance
There's so many messages
Oml
128
What is your Quality preset?
medium
crazy issues
Lowkey I was stuttering like crazy but I updated my drivers and it’s all good now - and I have a potato PC
potato pc specs?
Potato pc specs confirm?
I got a 1060 6GB with an i7-7700 with 16 gigs of ram, I play Minecraft with 10 gb allocated
That is NOT that low end
Raspberry PI can run dh
And my I5 4210u can also run it
I mean it's like 7-8 years old at this point, it struggles with most modern games
Granted though, I've had to turn down a lot of DH settings for it to run smooth. I play at only 32 LOD distance which I still find to be enough though for me as I can see complete valleys standing on top of a mountain. I run on balanced CPU allocation but I also pregernate my chunks for chunky because I find the distant generation of DH takes way too long. I also play with comp reimagined and after tweaking the settings, I can typically play with both at 60 fps steady
bruh im low end
urs is over 1000% better than mine
But my point was, I was stuttering a ton but updating my drivers yesterday helped a ton, also removing C2ME helped
I'm lowest end but my geforce 840m carries my entire system
lol
im acc running minecraft vanilla 1.21 rn
get 0fps loading chunkls but otherwisse its working
this helped guys
i have 4gb ram allocated and no stutters
mods r the best
How many ram you have
me?
What LOD distance do you play at? Like I said, I play on 32 which is way lower than what I see so many other people running but it works good enough for me
i have 16gb total
try using 6gb
i play on the minimum 32 but 32-128 doesnt matter
also i dont play like u guys
4gb allocated way too low
i mean some pple
nah you dont need 6 dude
cause im on 720p and not even fullscreen
i can run it smoothly at 240fps with 4gb allocated
I play it 128 lod distance
Cus idc about fps
:troll.:
~45 something fps
need vanilla to be better at loading chunks then im good
nice
i play at that too, at 4gb allocated, no stutters
240fps
when there are minimal entities
Download noisium and faster random noise too if you havent
I haven't scrolled up far enough, I'm sure someone has already mentioned that
just pregen using chunky
Usually helps with performance for me
Yeah, I think chunky will solve all of you problems tbh if you just take the time to let the chunks render out, just make sure you turn off distant generation when you do
U responding to me?
I'm talking about 1.21 there's no mods rn so no chunky
Bruh there’s no distant horizons either, you understand what the initial conversation was about don’t you?
? i was asking if ur talking about me
im in this thread far b4 u
also i alrdy said theres no mods?
why else would i say this?