Your Top 5?
What would be your Top 5 must have plugins for an Paper SMP server, without straying too far from Vanilla?
I have a clean slate world with custom terrain generation.
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Coreprotect worldguard worldedit InventoryRollbackPlus Luckperms*
:petluckperms: :core::geyser::worldguard: InventoryRollbackPlus
totally not cheating and omitting WE when WG requires it :KEKEKW:
forgot luckperms
luckperms
litebans
coreprotect
PermissionsEX
Logblock
Lockette
Herochat
World edit
this gotta be a meme right
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remember this
This may be controversial but-
Luckperms
Coreprotect
GriefPrevention
DiscordSRV
WorldEdit
I am a world guard hater and GriefPrevention enjoyer although GP can be annoying to use, I still love it
Wait why do u hate worldguard
No reason other than I like GP lol
World guard and GP have two different use cases, no?
Yes
Well to me, GP allows you to let people get involved with their own claims and buy and sell claim blocks which is cool
Worldguard isn't a claiming plugin...
Right. Worldguard isn't made for that.
It has the feature iirc but not what it's intended for at all
Yeah it’s more of a “protect” plugin afaik but I just never got into it
GP is more intuitive to me although very janky
But has character ❤️
Wg is just worldedit and then 2 commands
Rg create and rg flags
For a easy/simplesetup
But “zones” are pretty similar to gp claims tbh I just feel like GP is more noob friendly for the avg player
Cuz u physically claim corners with a shovel rather than use commands idk just me I guess
I like the trust system
The average player isn't supposed to have worldguard
It isn't designed to be for player claiming at all
Ur "supposed" to use both
Worldguard for admin zones and something like gp for player claims
But GP has admin claims too
And easy to expand as needed just click the corners
Don’t see the reason to use both if you have GP
That's how it is with wg aswell
Sure but afaik it has less flags
Then I guess it comes down to preference
I mean GP is a janky ass plugin that has some bs features on by default but if you’ve used it for awhile and know what to look for it grows on you
Might just be my personal take tho
How about GriefDefender 😅
expensive imo, unoptimised
Players like the interface tho 😅
but tbh, I compile it :shrug_animated: which isn't really updated anymore from when I last did it.
the dev of it told us to move to gp because gd probably is less optimised
-.-
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forgetting the part where you're paying 15$ to use features worth 5$
im not saying the features are bad, but that the average user won't use most of it
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no, thank you 🙏 I’ll def be looking into these and the hyperlinks made it super easy.
sure but if you would ask here then it might probably help others
Okay so aside from core plugins, what about Top 5 content addition / revision plugins? Things that aren’t completely out of the range of “semi-vanilla” but really spices up those survival experiences.
Depends what type of server you’re running, economy, PvP, just classic survival, etc.
I mean do those gotta be split?
Kinda hard to recommend plugins outside of the typical necessities if we don’t know what you need
I thought that’s what survival multiplayer was👀
I’m just asking what type of server you own, not suggesting they need to be split apart
Can you briefly describe what your server offers?
Or what you want it to offer
haha I was boutta say nothing lmao
I wanted it to be like Minecraft and DayZ had a baby. The overall idea, not exact content remakes
Well think about what you are offering players that join your server. If it’s exactly the same as every other SMP why would they stay?
Sooo kinda like anarchy?
True survival, pvp, economy, base raiding, etc
Health and hunger and thirst etc
For economy - vault and essentialsX are your industry standards
Maybe someone else can recommend PvP/siege plugins they like
https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/thirst.3316/ this one looks quite cool
SpigotMC - High Performance Minecraft
Thirst
Health and hunger are already apart of the game :pepeflushed:
Are the configurable though in terms of how you take damage and how you lose hunger?
GriefPrevention has a siege feature but if you’re wanting to not allow people to make claims then you probably wouldn’t want it
Change your difficulty:moderator:
Tru tru
Thank you, will look into these for now 🙏
Also if you want to get deeper into hunger you can look for FoodLevelChangeEvent, and set the food level of the event (FoodLevelChangeEvent#setFoodLevel(int))
That’s how it is if you have a spigot server, but you haven’t told us what server .jar you use
spigot and spigot fork based servers*
Realistic Seasons is pretty pretty
Highly recommend using pufferfish
Why over paper?
I’ve seen realistic seasons, realistic ambience & realistic survival and all those are beyond intriguing. But do they work in 1.20… 🤔
I’ve been using Paper, but recently found out about Purpur / Pufferfish / Pufferfish+. I’m at work rn but I’ll be looking into these for sure.
Paper has been great, but if there’s options for better optimization I’m all for it 👍
Purpur isn’t really more optimized, just lets u have full control of a LOT of settings that u don’t have with paper/pufferfish
then just use pufferfish?
- doesn't have everything preinstalled
- not unnecessary
- fork of paper
- even more performance than paper
From the standpoint of the OP, his server isnt super big and he is a returning server owner so I think the community support from Paper will be just right for him since it's the biggest community of them all with a lot of volunteer helpers. Puffer is really built for larger servers and OP may not really need those extra optimizations and wish to keep things Vanilla. I often make suggestion based on the need of the person asking and not giving out a blanklet answers as I dont believe that's best practice
pufferfish doesn't stand very far from paper - just a few more optimizations, most things the average user asks for help for is only related to paper
I believe Kevin put in a lot of works on his patches, I dont think saying it "isnt too far away from Paper" is giving him enough of credits but that's kinda not related to the topic here; however, my first point still stands as Paper has the largest community behind it for support.
If they want vanilla the shouldnt use Paper either then
For a technical server? yeah Fabric is the way to go but it looks like OP wants to use plugins as the title indicates so in that sense, Paper is the right choice.
•EssentialsX
Adds essential commands and features like teleportation and player management.
•Dynmap
Provides a live map of your server, allowing players to explore and navigate your custom terrain.
•WorldGuard
Helps protect your world by allowing you to define regions and set custom permissions.
•CoreProtect
Keeps your server secure by logging and rolling back any griefing or damage.
•ChestShop
Allows players to set up their own shops, creating a player-driven economy.
These plugins will enhance your server experience while maintaining the core Vanilla gameplay. Enjoy building and exploring in your custom world! 🌍🎮
pl3xmap >
Another chatgpt response from good ol Vinny
We really need a !dynamp command in this server. That plugin is awful.
Same thing as people who still use spigot instead of paper
There’s is 0 reason to be using dynmap when Pl3xmap and BlueMap exist
(Obviously I kno it’s prob AI generated response, but still is very bad plugin)
#suggestions and put a sample canned response in the thread that'll be created.
Unless modded, I think for my RLcraft usecase Dynmap is the only thing that works back in 1.12.2
I use "works" quite liberally as I still haven't been able to get it functional but it's the thought that counts
honestly, i stand corrected, you're right,this is the only reason to be using dynmap
Tbf plugin compatability is one of dynmap strong points
But that's pretty much it when it comes to unmodded
all of the modern plugins have compatability with pl3x and blue nowadays
Not really
start listing em
Towny-dynmap is a big one
Oh wait it's siegewar-dynmap iirc?
GitHub
GitHub - TownyAdvanced/Dynmap-Towny: Display Towny towns and nation...
Display Towny towns and nations on Dynmap maps. Contribute to TownyAdvanced/Dynmap-Towny development by creating an account on GitHub.
well this can easily be solved
in like a 2 days
As a developer sure but as a user who wants something just working
Can be a bit of a turnoff
oh wait
nvm
GitHub
GitHub - TownyAdvanced/MapTowny: A Towny add-on Bukkit plugin that ...
A Towny add-on Bukkit plugin that enables towns to show up on a web-map. - GitHub - TownyAdvanced/MapTowny: A Towny add-on Bukkit plugin that enables towns to show up on a web-map.
its already here
bluemap
and pl3xmap
so next pls, what other addon plugin does dynmap have that the others dont?
Anything very out of date is the most likely answer but I don't know how far back plex and blue support
well according to bstats 75.6% bukkit/forks servers are on 1.19 or later
There's always the oldest anarchy server in Minecraft kinda deals
Oh wait they updated scratch that
im not disagreeing with u
Yeah
im just saying 75% of people are trolling by deciding to use dynmap
or ignorant, because they arent aware of the modern alternatives
75% of dynmap users are on 1.19 or later... :stevegun:
yeah... more proving my argument
Welp Blue and plex gotta step up their marketing game because before joining this server I had no idea they existed or any of their features
well the only reason dynmap is known because it was known back in the day
theres nothing pl3x or blue to fix that
they cant go back in time
dynmap just needs to pack it up and stop updating
and focus on modded
or older versions
They can get plugin showcase youtubers I suppose