Mesh Generation - No trigger on probe after full movement

On my new build, I'm getting a "No trigger on probe after full movement" during mesh bed calibration. The first assumption is that the probe isn't working at all, but it homes just fine. The sequence of events is as follows: 1. Home printer (g28) 2. Start mesh generation (BED_MESH_CALIBRATE PROFILE="default") 3. Printer moves to the bottom left probing point, bed moves to about where I would expect it to stop ~5mm from the sensor, then gives the error. The print head does not crash, it seems like the probe triggers and then it gives up and throws the error. Big video shows the homing working fine. The top right video is the bed mesh attempt: https://youtu.be/317IEv7uWno I'm wondering if anyone has any good troubleshooting options and I would appreciate any advice.
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blacksmithforlife
Have you done your probe calibration https://www.klipper3d.org/Probe_Calibrate.html ? It looks like it is awfully far away from the bed when it starts
MONSOONO
MONSOONOOP2y ago
I did, I just ran it again and it got halfway through the mesh then errored out again. I followed the instructions to position the probe 1mm above the nozzle tip.
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blacksmithforlife
by default it is 5mm movement - and looking at your Z probe you look pretty close to it. Maybe try increasing the probe distance?
MONSOONO
MONSOONOOP2y ago
The bed looks a little bit askew, but I expect that the process would accomodate that? I've only used a BL touch. Increase the default movement? Or adjust the probe position?
blacksmithforlife
how far above the nozzle is the probe? ideally you want it like 0.2mm above
MONSOONO
MONSOONOOP2y ago
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MONSOONO
MONSOONOOP2y ago
Put it 1mm above
blacksmithforlife
that's too high above. A 4mm probe only has like 2mm distance that it triggers at
MONSOONO
MONSOONOOP2y ago
Okay, I'll adjust it down. I can't find a setting for maximum probe distance in https://www.klipper3d.org/Config_Reference.html#probe anyway.
blacksmithforlife
obviously you will have to re-do prob calibration after moving it https://www.klipper3d.org/Config_Reference.html#z_tilt
horizontal_move_z: 5
was what I was thinking about
MONSOONO
MONSOONOOP2y ago
I see what may be affecting it. I manually level the bed, then during homing it goes out of alignment. Ah, that's something I should read through. Thank you.
blacksmithforlife
You could use STEPPER_BUZZ to verify that z is the front left, z1 is the back leadscrew, and z2 is the front right leadscrew
MONSOONO
MONSOONOOP2y ago
Ran it now just to confirm. There's all assigned correctly, it just seems to want to home to an acute angle after being leveled manually.
blacksmithforlife
What kind of numbers are you getting from PROBE_ACCURACY ? Hopefully you don't have slop in EVA or your linear rails and having that affect things when trying to z-tilt
MONSOONO
MONSOONOOP2y ago
No, this is too much to just be slop. probe accuracy results: maximum -0.062500, minimum -0.080313, range 0.017812, average -0.069469, median -0.066406, standard deviation 0.006477 I'm going to look at the z tilt options to see what the defaults are. I have a bit of a hacky config, but I didn't change any of the kinematics.
blacksmithforlife
I have a bit of a hacky config
what do you mean?
MONSOONO
MONSOONOOP2y ago
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MONSOONO
MONSOONOOP2y ago
I'm using 2208s on the CB1, with all the Ratos files dumped into a folder.
blacksmithforlife
yeah, your Z is slowly increasing instead of decreasing perhaps you have the direction of them backwards?
MONSOONO
MONSOONOOP2y ago
There all moving in the right direction, it just seems like every homing and calibration operation brings the machine futher out of alignment.
blacksmithforlife
how are you telling they are moving in the right direction? The fact they are moving away suggests they are opposite what they should be
MONSOONO
MONSOONOOP2y ago
I hit + and the platform goes down. If one was reversed, I would expect it to skew, as that one would go up while the others went down. It also completes homing just fine the first time. If the Z was reversed, I would expect it to crash the plate into the nozzle, then descend while it looks for the probe that isn't there.
blacksmithforlife
When you say you hit + the platform goes down - are you referring to the ^ or the Z-offset buttons?
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MONSOONO
MONSOONOOP2y ago
Just the normal up/down. I have only used the z offset during probe calibration.
blacksmithforlife
well, definitely your problem is that it is increasing in distance during z-tilt instead of decreasing. If you are sure your Z's are working correctly I would start looking into your mechanics. Are your leadscrews aligned, are your linear rails aligned, is there friction in your pom nuts, etc.
MONSOONO
MONSOONOOP2y ago
Everything seems to move smoothly, X axis is a bit rattley. The way it decides to skew in a strange direction after homing makes me think that it is something in software.
blacksmithforlife
I kind of doubt it is software - because if it was a lot more people would have problems with z-tilt.
MONSOONO
MONSOONOOP2y ago
The leadscrew was slipping under torque. This was causing the front left to desyncrhonize and affect the repeatability of movement. Solved. Thank you for your help.
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