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Admincraftโ€ข3w ago
Haru

EssentialsX, Sunlight or Alternatives?

I'm looking for a plugin do to basic stuff like: Spawn, Homes, Warps, TPs, Vanish, RGB Colours, Basic Admin/Moderation Commands, and maybe some misc. stuff like sitting down on stairs, etc. EssentialsX seems simple enough and does all the required, but I like the out of the box GUIs that Sunlight offers. HOWEVA I back read that Sunlight might be more prone to exploits/bugginess than Essentials? Which would you guys recommend, or any other alternatives? do something entirely different with another plugin? Looking for opinions and suggestions so I can get out of this decision paralysis, lol. Thanks. Also, no CMI. I had prior experience and issues with it.
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Srry I didnโ€™t read this Essentials on itself is not a good plugin, only scenario I would recommend it is if it were your first server Usually plugins that bundle a lot of completely different features like essentials donโ€™t specialize in any of those, so you get basic stuff In contrast, plugins that specialize in a single feature have a better understanding of your needs...
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qvaras
qvarasโ€ข3w ago
deluxe menus + essentials
codertommy
codertommyโ€ข3w ago
a lot of these can be done with other plugins if you want there's standalone plugins for vanish and standalone plugins for moderation and there's stuff for sitting down, and any competent plugin should support RGB text
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Example for TPA: https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/simple-tpa.64270/ Example for Vanish (has a better paid version): https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/supervanish-be-invisible.1331/ Example chat plugin (paid, not sure if there're good free alternatives): https://builtbybit.com/resources/zelchat-high-performance-simple.47406/ All should support RGB colors What "basic admin/mod" commands do you need?
TurboVadim
TurboVadimโ€ข3w ago
Idk why anyone needs some kind of really advanced chat plugin. I personally use seld made EnderaOpenChat and it's enough for me
codertommy
codertommyโ€ข3w ago
the chat plugin you need depends on the features you need
Kre0lidge
Kre0lidgeโ€ข3w ago
Modrinth
Carbon Chat - Minecraft Plugin
Carbon is a modern chat plugin built on channels, with just about every single setting and format configurable.
Haru
HaruOPโ€ข3w ago
Thanks for the responses! Most of you seem to offer other alternatives with more plugins vs. a do-it-all plugin like Essentials. It is because you think these are better options than having Essentials/Sunlight? Less bloat? Or just sharing alternatives? Sorry for not being clear, was thinking stuff like mute, kick, ban, broadcast, stuff like that. Maybe automated daily chat messages reminding people of X stuff. It was more about allowing rgb colors other than the basic ones for text like for example in WorldGuard region titles. Unless its already a thing, or I got it wrong..
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For mute/kick/ban people use either LibertyBans (free) or Litebans (paid) By far much more reliable and configurable to whatever essentials might have https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/libertybans.81063/ https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/litebans.3715/ Only thing idk is reminders and broadcast command, usually those are very simple to have a dedicated plugin, usually come packaged in other chat plugins
codertommy
codertommyโ€ข3w ago
doesnt velocity have broadcast
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Iirc itโ€™s also a vanilla command, but I guess they want rgb or minimessage support
codertommy
codertommyโ€ข3w ago
vanilla has /tellraw (just for that server ofc)
Kre0lidge
Kre0lidgeโ€ข3w ago
https://github.com/jpenilla/AnnouncerPlus For reminders - broadcasts etc.
GitHub
GitHub - jpenilla/AnnouncerPlus: Announcement and Join/Quit message...
Announcement and Join/Quit message plugin with support for permissions. Supports Hex colors, gradients, Achievements, Titles, Action Bars, and more. Uses MiniMessage for text formatting - jpenilla/...
Kre0lidge
Kre0lidgeโ€ข3w ago
With Carbon as your chat plugin you can even have a separate broadcast channel where you can throw in manual broadcasts
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For sitting in blocks: https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/gsit-modern-sit-seat-and-chair-lay-and-crawl-plugin-1-16-1-21-4.62325/ SimpleTPA, SuperVanish, CarbonChat, LibertyBans, AnnouncerPlus and Gsit probably cover all of the needs you mentioned
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Srry I didnโ€™t read this Essentials on itself is not a good plugin, only scenario I would recommend it is if it were your first server Usually plugins that bundle a lot of completely different features like essentials donโ€™t specialize in any of those, so you get basic stuff In contrast, plugins that specialize in a single feature have a better understanding of your needs Example: Vanish in essentials is very limited, they use a built-in function in bukkit to hide the player and then apply an invisibility potion, so if other plugin uses the same builtin function you can get exposed without being notified. SuperVanish/PremiumVanish (and other vanish plugins) use packets to hide the player, so it doesnโ€™t matter if other plugins use that function
Haru
HaruOPโ€ข3w ago
I see, alright y'all convinced me. Thanks for the answers!

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