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mfad18h ago
Shmelf

Leather Boot Reccomendations

I'm sure this has been asked plenty of times. I've done a handful of research into leather boots and it appears for decent quality, entry level boots, Thursday Boots is a brand that comes up often. I really like Thursday's Presedential line but I'm looking for recommendations of similar style boots that may be considered higher quality.
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Walmart the Conqueror
From what I've heard, Thursdays don't live up to the hype The definitive reddit boot brand
carrion
carrion18h ago
thursday quality fell off super hard, try red wings
Walmart the Conqueror
I wouldn't want to get boots from a company that thought this was a good idea
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Shmelf
ShmelfOP18h ago
That is very true lol I was reading this too. I'll take a look at red wings I have looked at allen edmonds, red wing, beckott simonon, and grant stone - the presidential is my favourite looking model. It's frustrating as it seems the consensus is all the other brands are considered better quality. Was hoping to see some other brands that I'm missing.
Walmart the Conqueror
Have you seen them in person? iirc Thursday spends a LOT on advertising
Shmelf
ShmelfOP18h ago
Thats my problem, Canada is rough to see a lot of those in person, especially my city
Mosh
Mosh18h ago
Where are you in canada? Im located in Toronto myself so theres a few nice boot spots
Shmelf
ShmelfOP18h ago
Next time I go to Toronto I plan to check a few places out Live a few hours away from there now
bstormo
bstormo18h ago
I’m not a boot expert but the one time I actually touched thursdays they felt cheap and plasticy compared to the red wing and Allen Edmonds I own.
Shmelf
ShmelfOP18h ago
Good to know
bstormo
bstormo18h ago
Meermin Shoes
514886 - BURGUNDY HERITAGE SHELL CORDOVAN - E
Introducing our all-new plain toe boots, designed with the utmost comfort and durability in mind. The boots feature our newest NEGON last, which boasts a wider and flatter toe shape, providing ample room and a more comfortable fit for your feet. Additionally, the last incorporates a supportive back area to ensure excel
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Shmelf
ShmelfOP18h ago
I actually just came across that one, its up on the list now
bstormo
bstormo18h ago
The Alden Shop
45770H Plain Toe Boot (Brown Calfskin)
Plain Toe Boot in Brown Calf 379x Last Double Oiled Leather Outsoles Alden of San Francisco Makeup
Shmelf
ShmelfOP18h ago
Haven't come across them yet, the price is likely why I do like the casual look from the laces on presidential. Wonder what that meermin would look like with some laces like that
Walmart the Conqueror
Those look like waxed flat laces. A bunch of companies sell them
Karim
Karim18h ago
Big fan of Solovair's - they are basically Doc martens but higher quality, check them out! The ones you posted look a bit like their 6 eye astronaut boots.
Mosh
Mosh18h ago
2nding solovair!
Walmart the Conqueror
I was gonna recommend them too
Shmelf
ShmelfOP17h ago
Haven't come across solovair yet, cool
Walmart the Conqueror
I don’t have any pairs (but I do have docs :caught:), I’ve just seen their name passed around a lot
oman121
oman12117h ago
GS diesel is basically the same as the Thursday and its going to be better quality and from a better company
Shmelf
ShmelfOP17h ago
Had my eye on these too
anasthesia-
anasthesia-17h ago
I’ve got solovairs they’re pretty aight I also have DMs fwiw they’re still…fine and probably closer in price to Thursday?
lordofthethighs.
How they haven't received a cease and desist for this I have no idea OP, is there a specific aesthetic you're looking for, or type of boot? I have Thursday chukkas, and while I'm not sad about the purchase (worth the $ imo) there are better options for that money and in that range for last quality. I'm not upset I bought them but I wouldn't buy them again
Walmart the Conqueror
Doesn’t sound like you’re that happy with them
lordofthethighs.
If you don't mind the wait times, Beckett Simonon Is in that price range and does a better shoe/boot on a better last in my opinion. India has some promising shoe makers with mixed reviews at that price as well. If you wanted dressier boots at red wing prices, Trickers has a factory website where you can get seconds and discontinued models for almost half off retail. If you can find somewhere to try on a few Trickers models to see how the different models/lasts fit, that would be a solid option I bought them to wear through slush and nasty north Midwest weather without having to care if they got thrashed, for their use case I'm okay with them but outside that, not great boots The dye on their lining leather bleeds and stains socks like crazy, too. Annoying
Walmart the Conqueror
I’ve got a pair of docs that I like, but I wouldn’t buy them again Because then I’d have two pairs of the same shoe
lordofthethighs.
I'm buying the same pair of austerity brogues from Beckett Simonon in a different leather here soon, they fit great and wear well for their Cost. Tbh, they are what Thursday advertises as being
Shmelf
ShmelfOP17h ago
I want to wear them at my office job while still being able to wear them with more casual outfits. I want them for winter for the office for sure, I currently wear my oxfords and even though I work inside, theres quite a bit of snow, ice, and salt somedays... I could switch footwear when I get into the office, but I like the idea of having a leather, dressy-ish style boot
lordofthethighs.
BS uses a Blake stitch instead of a welt though, not a big deal for me
Shmelf
ShmelfOP17h ago
Can Blake stitch still get soles replaced?
Scott (stupid)
Scott (stupid)17h ago
thursday sucks more like turdsday
Shmelf
ShmelfOP17h ago
So it would appear lol
lordofthethighs.
Sanders UK makes some great options with rubber soles for this use case, and Trickers is the king of hardy British country dress boots Yes, not as many times as a Goodyear welt though and there may be an issue with water wicking into the shoe with Blake stitch. Blake stitch has the outsole directly stitched to the shoe, so the stitches penetrate the middle through the outsole The bonus is Blake stitch breaks in faster, is lighter, and is more flexible than welted shoes, where welted shoes have more between the ground and your foot and higher water resistance
Shmelf
ShmelfOP17h ago
I like lighter, but the water resistance is interesting too, especially for what I imagine I want them for. I definitely will still be avoiding puddles and snow
lordofthethighs.
Here's an option from Sanders, quality suede isn't a bad option for winter if you use a good waterproofing spray
lordofthethighs.
Beckett Simonon
Dowler Boots - Pull-Up - Men's
Sturdy boots with a fine appearance. Sometimes you want something extra sturdy and hardy, but refined. Inspired by tough workwear boots, Dowler Boots in pull-up leather fit the bill. Their utilitarian roots have been smoothed out, and the result are refined boots which are still able to take scrapes and bruises with no
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lordofthethighs.
Here's Beckett Simonon, they have a long lead time due to their MTO program but it helps keep their price down
awz5082
awz508217h ago
That's not why I would regret buying Thursday's.... Not to be combative but why do so many run-ins with involve you defending/repping problematic brands
adaptation
adaptation17h ago
seconding this
lordofthethighs.
I got the Thursdays to see if they would fit the use case I had for the money I had to spend at the time, and they do but outside of that I do not think they would have been worth it. Why would you regret buying Thursdays?
lordofthethighs.
The other brand that's problematic is Rosen, and I didn't know about what made them so until recently thanks to this discord. Before that I had heard of them years ago and last I had checked the tech wear reddit they were respected, so I tried them out
awz5082
awz508216h ago
the joke for those Thursday Air Force 1 knockoffs is that they're called the alt-right 1s you defended them after we revealed the issues tho
lordofthethighs.
Alt-right 1's is hilarious
awz5082
awz508216h ago
I do get that you likely didn't recommend these maliciously though
warpweftwatergate
Imagine naming a company after the worst day of the week
lordofthethighs.
I wanted to at least play devil's advocate since Gracia wasn't going to be able to defend the brand and I had had nothing but good experience dealing with her, that one with Rosen really stung for me
adaptation
adaptation16h ago
why was this neccessary to do
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pacific_north_dressed
if we are buying racist boots, at least get the platonic ideal of a M-43 service boot, which is the boot that the Thursday is bastardizing: https://standardandstrange.com/products/m-43-service-boots-dark-brown-waxed-flesh
Standard & Strange
M-43 Service Boots - Dark Brown Waxed Flesh
The original M-43 service shoe that serves as the model for these was issued in 1943, with the rivetless version starting in 1944. The basic specifications for this boot were very simple. Composition sole, welted construction, natural combination-tanned rough-out cowhide, all built up on the Munson last with an unstruc
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Shrimp
Shrimp16h ago
If we're doing racist, I'd say you should go for a Galliano Boot
lordofthethighs.
To be absolutely open about it, Gracia made my wedding suit. I got married in one of her pieces, I really didn't want it to be true.
adaptation
adaptation16h ago
eBay
JOHN GALLIANO DIOR VINTAGE SNAKESKIN PYTHON LACE UP BUCKLE MID CALF...
ANKLE BOOTS, NO GALLIANO BOX. COLLECTORS UNIQUE FIND! BLACK SNAKESKIN. SZ 6, 4" HEELS,MID CALF, 11" HEIGHT FROM SOLE, 10" FROM HEEL TO TOE. BUCKLE WRAP IS 8"-9" AROUND CALF.
SteezeTrain
SteezeTrain16h ago
Only time I've worn Thursday was when they were sent to me for free. And I still threw them away
Shrimp
Shrimp16h ago
im buying those and squeezing my 10.5 feet into them
Clark'sDesertBot
alright it seems that thursday boots is an sleeper agent activation code here
SteezeTrain
SteezeTrain16h ago
I'm here to help Clark's shill
Clark'sDesertBot
be normal and just help the guy get some boots
adaptation
adaptation16h ago
fiiiine
lordofthethighs.
OP, service boots are a great key word to check for Hey phrase? Not really one word
Shmelf
ShmelfOP16h ago
Haha I'm fine with all this, it's funny
lordofthethighs.
Probably going to want to make sure that sole is rubber and has some type of lugging, like dainite or a commando if a use case for them is bad weather/winter
Shrimp
Shrimp16h ago
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Shmelf
ShmelfOP16h ago
I still planned on wearing them with more casual outfits when I go downtown and such in Spring/Fall if it makes sense to
oman121
oman12116h ago
Grant Stone
Diesel Boot Dune Chromexcel
The word “diesel” doesn’t exactly remind us of something flashy but instead of something built for strength and longevity. This is our rendition of the basic plain toe boot pattern—made with nothing but proven leather uppers, lining, and insole. Chromexcel leather tanned by Horween in Chicago is incredibly resilient wh
oman121
oman12116h ago
anyway these are still my top pic if within budget
pacific_north_dressed
Yeah get these
lordofthethighs.
I'll second grant stones, they are damn nice
pacific_north_dressed
They come in a lot of leather options too
Shmelf
ShmelfOP16h ago
Yeah they're up there for sure. I'd prefer cheaper, does GS go on sale much?
pacific_north_dressed
Not really no
lordofthethighs.
They have a B grades section you can browse
Shmelf
ShmelfOP16h ago
Didn't think so
pacific_north_dressed
Grant Stone B grades are incredible value
Shmelf
ShmelfOP16h ago
How risky are seconds or bgrades? Will I get a lemon or dud sometimes?
lordofthethighs.
I have a b grades loafer I bought 4 years ago, still trying to find why they're B grade
Shmelf
ShmelfOP16h ago
Yeah I had a feeling its the luck of the draw, but have no experience
pacific_north_dressed
B Grade just means it didn’t pass GS very exacting QC. So maybe a scuff or a slightly wonky stitch or two They won’t sell a boot that won’t be wearable though even as a B Grade
oman121
oman12116h ago
b grades can be a good option if they happen to have your size
Grant Stone
B Grades
B-Grade footwear have imperfections such as light creasing or marks on the leather upper. Performance and longevity will not be a concern. They offer great value and a perfect way to jump into Goodyear-welt footwear. Limited sizes and quantities are available. Items will not be restocked.  Please note that B Grade item
lordofthethighs.
Grant stone has the QC we all wish Alden had
oman121
oman12116h ago
sales do happen but thats just a question of checking stocklists
Shmelf
ShmelfOP16h ago
The GS diesel in dark burgundy or crimson are so nice
lordofthethighs.
Crimson is an underrated footwear color, goes great with so many things. Except my financial better judgement, it almost never goes well with that
Shmelf
ShmelfOP16h ago
Do you usually keep the laces on boots like these? If not, what kind of laces do you guys like putting on them?
oman121
oman12116h ago
whatever they come with tbh some people also do leather but 99% of people just leave it
Shmelf
ShmelfOP16h ago
I've never touched the laces of shoes other than skate shoes like 15 years ago when I was a lad
lordofthethighs.
I either just the ones provided or get leather laces, depends
Shmelf
ShmelfOP16h ago
Can't wait for some more tariffs between US and Canada so I can pay more when I order these
lordofthethighs.
Leather laces help dress them down, and I used to prefer leather laces on my work boots. They have some innate give and I could lace my boots pretty tight and they'd loosen to perfect after about 30 min of walking around
Shmelf
ShmelfOP16h ago
This is why I was asking. Kind of wanted to dress them down slightly for a more casual look to them
lordofthethighs.
Yeah, international trade relations going to shit is definitely not enjoyable
Shmelf
ShmelfOP16h ago
Who knows, maybe they'll get delayed another month
Walmart the Conqueror
I only ever change the laces when they get worn down
Shmelf
ShmelfOP16h ago
I likely wouldn't change them
lordofthethighs.
Does anyone remember if Grant stone provides a pair of both? I had leather and waxed cotton for the suede kudu diesels I used to have, can't remember but I want to say both came with the boot
Shmelf
ShmelfOP16h ago
Are there many storefronts that carry them? I desperately want to try them on before ordering
lordofthethighs.
Who knows though, maybe when Shmelf goes to order there'll be some insane tariff on leather laces and GS will skip packing them
Shmelf
ShmelfOP16h ago
GS doesn't need to worry about the tariff really, it'll be me paying it to get it past my border Well they might need to worry about importing it from China, then I have to pay another for it to enter Canada lol
lordofthethighs.
Standard and strange is the only stockist that comes to mind
Shmelf
ShmelfOP16h ago
I'd prefer to just buy them in person and wear them across my border. Obviously I would still declare them though...
lordofthethighs.
They recently raised their price a decent bit, pretty sure this is why
Shmelf
ShmelfOP16h ago
Hopefully we don't see more lol
lordofthethighs.
Don't hold your breath, 2025 is shaping up to be the sequel to Idiocracy
Shmelf
ShmelfOP16h ago
With these kind of boots, if I wear size 9.5-10 usually, is it more likely the 9.5 fits better? Or think 10 would?
oman121
oman12116h ago
no but they are very good with returns so they will exchange they also tend to be pretty solid half down from brannock
Shmelf
ShmelfOP16h ago
I appreciate all of your input (and anyone's future input), thanks everyone

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