Making F41 Surface Images

Hi BlueBuild team
For a while I have had a custom image for my microsoft surface
Now, I'm a little confused about the switch from designated surface images to the hwe repo
Which image should I be basing mine off of?
Currently I'm coming from ghcr.io/ublue-os/silverblue-surface
To upgrade to Fedora 41, which image should I be starting with now?

Luke Skywunker•2/6/25, 7:46 PM

I'm a little unclear as to how their hwe repo is supposed to work in their build system. I'd have to investigate before making any recommendations

HikariKnight•2/7/25, 11:04 AM

the hwe repo is being deprecated, surface images were never built for fedora 41 to begin with
the kernels will still be available in akmods from my understanding.
iirc it had something to do with firmware on surface breaking boot or something or that the changes have been upstreamed, dont have the exact details since it does not affect me, but i will see if i can dig up the discussion

HikariKnight•2/7/25, 11:07 AM

hwe is essentially the bazzite kernel now from what i gather

HikariKnight•2/7/25, 11:07 AM

https://discordapp.com/channels/1072614816579063828/1335329926177357965 from ublue server

Luke Skywunker•2/7/25, 2:51 PM

Thanks for stepping in with more info @HikariKnight ! Very appreciated

HikariKnight•2/7/25, 2:53 PM

yw!

Nobody's WatchingOP•2/7/25, 9:41 PM

Thank you for that information!

I'm just having issues updating my surface as it's been a while and i'm getting errors.

Nobody's WatchingOP•2/7/25, 9:41 PM

How would I go about pulling the kernel from akmods?

HikariKnight•2/8/25, 12:33 AM

thats a better question for the blue-build devs, not sure if blue-build lets you replace the kernel easily

Luke Skywunker•2/8/25, 1:21 AM

Working on the dnf module which will be much more capable of doing that

HikariKnight•2/8/25, 1:55 AM

so future

Nobody's WatchingOP•2/8/25, 2:53 AM

super cool

HHikariKnight thats a better question for the blue-build devs, not sure if blue-build lets you...

xyny•2/10/25, 1:59 PM

if you know how to do it with the containerfile setup, that's portable to bluebuild with the module

xyny•2/10/25, 2:00 PM

using bazzite kernel is probably the correct approach to take especially if ublue is your base

Xxyny if you know how to do it with the containerfile setup, that's portable to bluebu...

HikariKnight•2/10/25, 2:01 PM

oh nice

xyny•2/10/25, 2:03 PM

i found this in the bazzite containerfile, but i'm not entirely sure how it works https://github.com/ublue-os/bazzite/blob/8720f0174c8f62bfa6fbaa03e9ec5e55dd77f5d9/Containerfile#L122

xyny•2/10/25, 2:03 PM

and this is the main script it calls https://github.com/ublue-os/bazzite/blob/main/build_files/install-kernel-akmods

xyny•2/10/25, 2:04 PM

and probably the lines are important as well and such

HikariKnight•2/10/25, 5:46 PM

yeah i think its from akmods and i dont get it myself either, not really a fedora person even though i have been on bazzite for over a year now

Nobody's WatchingOP•2/10/25, 6:30 PM

interesting, I didn't realize bazzite used the chachyos kernel, the more you know

Nobody's WatchingOP•2/10/25, 6:30 PM

I suppose I'll just have to start learning how to do more within the containerfile

NNobody's Watching interesting, I didn't realize bazzite used the chachyos kernel, the more you kno...

HikariKnight•2/10/25, 6:58 PM

we dont use it wholesale, we use parts of it like the bore scheduler

Nobody's WatchingOP•2/10/25, 7:17 PM

juts found this: https://github.com/lauretano/t2-atomic/tree/main

maybe can learn something here too

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