Starting a Minecraft Host
Hey all, what kind of specs should I get? We're starting off in an invite-only beta and onboarding will be slow to start. We want to start off with an EU location
Currently, I'm look at a 7950x from Pebblehost + cosmic guard, unsure of how much storage/ram would be required. This is strictly Minecraft hosting and all backups are off-site.
No specific budget in mind, just an overall good spec machine that will last us through out beta. We plan on buying more machines in the future obviously.
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don't
Don't what?
start a minecraft host
I'm starting the host regardless
We have the audience for it
👎
that or 5950x's
start small so you can gain traction for beefier plans
cosmicguard being the 5 usd addon or what
i assume just the addon
Yes
Pebble is out and iirc hetzner was getting pretty expensive compared to just getting a 7950x. We shouldn't have to worry too much about actually getting users, we have people waiting to use the platform
oh then yeah go for the 7950x
Sounds good, what about memory/disk? I'm leaning towards 192 and I've only seen (2) other hosts use 192
4 GB per thread just doesn't seem like that much honestly
you usually end up running out of memory long before cpu usage
which is why a fair few do 192
192 it is
I can't imagine we would use TOO much disk space due to offsite backups but I assume it would be quite the issue if we were to run out
do note if youre using ptero backend (wings) there is no protection against fallolcate
fallocate*
We're partially using ptero, moving to our own for release
Does ptero not disable fallocate? 😅 How do other hosts handle that
uh mess
fallocate isnt the only thing but no
Is there any docker image to fix these kind of things?
I can make my own, would rather get it from something that's battle tested though
theres that yeah, more meant by default and was a warning*
also check if they protect against the other methods
Will do, thank you for bringing that to my attention
that's fancy
man this egg has everything
wait, fallocate needs protection ?
is that a thing ?
fallocate lets you allocate space that isnt yours as swap
making it unusable
Oh yeah you mean ways to COUNTER fallocate
The best counter is hoping your users don't do it
😉
lol, I just bought a vps to mess with these panels
didnt know all of these
just read some blogs on google, wasnt it used for normal disk opperation and not as swap ?
you normally use it to make a swapfile
is what i meant
So what about storage?
2 4tb drives is 40 a month, not sure we are going to use all that
wish I could kinda see other hosts, how much they have and how much they use
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Sick thank you
np, i really like their stats lol
It seems like 4tb would probably be fine for me
But I still have a gut feeling I should just get 8tb
8TB of storage is alot. Are your plans offering some sort of unmetered or very large amount for storage?
You won’t really need anymore than 2TB-4TB if your host is starting out unless your audience are ones to use over 200GB of storage for their server.
Should be a smaller server size type of host to start out
we also offer an hourly plan so that will use up storage
Something like exaroton?
Yea, primary setup is a monthly based billing
Just gives our users more power
Ah I see. Well do wish you the best of luck with that! Better to have extra storage than none.
Thank you! Hopefully it goes well
we’re opening up our beta to waitlist users soon which is super exciting and so much planned
My goal as a solo dev is to be more cracked than the pyro team
They’ve done some pretty cool stuff from what i’ve seen, it’s cool to see other platforms growing so fast
own experience, you will run out of ram before cpu and storage
Had the opposite experience 😂
lol
My fear is that I will run out of storage though
I can pretty easily migrate servers from one node to another with some code, I just don't want that downtime though
I would like to profit asap though, should be possible within the first few months. Bit harder paying for better machines but it's whatever
i mean depends how much you give, but with 8tb i wouldn't even worry :haircut:
128 for a 16 gb server iirc, more can be given upon request
:thinking:
it will be fine
yea, until we oversell our ram by 250%
250?
thats too much
(just joking, I hope)
We don't plan on overselling the ram
For hourly i would keep data for a 3 day grace period starting from last server period ending
After that move to offsite storage tbh
And if you dont oversell
You wont run out of storage
The math isnt there to support it will
Good idea, should be pretty easy too
that's it? You can do better
yea good point, ill up it to 400% to start then increase as the ram usage increases
the amount of OOM crashes
🔥🔥
damn
5 usd per gb
what are you, bisecthosting?!
yes, but with ads!
:what_blink_duck:
i hope your france dc goes up in flames
we only offer AU servers globally.
very good latency everywhere, i would highly recommend buying our dedicated hardware
we haven’t setup a security system or proper cooling system, good news is that it’s not too hot over there
If Aternos and Bisect had a baby
just wait till you find out about our 4 hour per day time limits! just like minehut
figured they’re one of the best in the industry due to their scale so it would be best for us to copy them
it’s really cool though
i automatically run all of the servers in tmux windows, docker was just bloat and slows down your server
Next thing you tell me that your custom panel will be licensed out and will not get any major updates for a whole decade!
you read my mind
don’t expect any updates, that’s for sure
all those commits i have on my gh commit graph are daily cron jobs too
it’s all fake, makes us look more professional
Someone stop this man before he decides to disappear from the face off earth after some months of operation with everyone’s money and leave his entire staff team who turns out are not paid and clients without their servers!
how did you know our staff aren’t paid? 😭
I hope this is a joke
only half of these things are a joke
to clarify, we don’t have staff
and please do not report me to any government
im talking about this
even for australia its a lot
ah, no
we are at 3 per gb
i’m debating moving to 3.5 or 4 for release, then moving back down to 3
we are starting off with an EU location then moving into the US
All powered by hetzner cloud VPSs 👍
With hetzner DDoS protection as well?!
That sounds amazing!
bro can someone get that summer host bingo
contabo better
well obviously, we charge extra for ingress/egress
Do you charge slots as well?!
yup
1/usd/month for player slot
That’s a bit generous
yea you're right
Added, thanks for the reminder
devin should add that sometime soon
Works well
this just rm -rf's fallocate
btw
so like
🤷🏻♂️ 1 issue gone haha
should just be able to add it back tho
its just a binary
you can run curl
superior egg to plain ptero either way
I just disable the overallocation limit
well lets get one thing sorted first, the uk is not the eu
I'm interested to see how this goes though
huh? fallocate just makes a file as big as you want it to be, it inherently has nothing to do with swap, you just use the command to make a large file to use as a swapfile
@Snow Kit read right below
ah, am blind
😭 Gotta love being american
Should go quite well with our current situation. I have a few concerns once we scale but that will be far in the future. I have loads of plans once we can start hiring devs
i wanted to say this at the beginning but get 2x 4tb drives and use raid 1, if it wasnt obvious
alright
yea I didn't really want to setup multiple drives ngl 😭
not needing it and having it is better than needing it and not having it
yea fair
^^
i had it happen to me
never made the mistake again
What kind of cpu would be acceptable for a budget tier?
We're thinking about starting off with a budget dedi before adding premium
not sure though
7700x at 1$/gb is probably about right
you might find it cheaper to operate 7950x3ds at that price point at a cost per node
okay thank you