How can I run DH + Essential mod together? When I install Essential mod, it disables it

If somebody could please help me, essential mod is basically disabling all other mods in my mods folder for some odd reason.
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danny2717
danny2717OP3w ago
Just to be clear, I installed essential using the installer, I didn't drag and drop it
Puhpine
Puhpine3w ago
there is an essential installer? okay first step is to not use that
danny2717
danny2717OP3w ago
literally got it from their webpage
Puhpine
Puhpine3w ago
dont send exe's please
danny2717
danny2717OP3w ago
okay sorry I deleted my minecraft + appdata folder and reinstalled it turns out essential is messing up with the game mods folder it disables mods It took me hours to figure this out
Puhpine
Puhpine3w ago
why do you need essential? to invite people to your singleplayer world?
danny2717
danny2717OP3w ago
yeah plus it brings some UI/screenshot stuff which is nice tbh
Puhpine
Puhpine3w ago
what UI/screenshot stuff? because you can easily replace the singleplayer inviting with another mod called e4mc
danny2717
danny2717OP3w ago
like when I press F2 it shows you a gallery instead of the usual minecraft stuff it's just more neat that's only 1 of the benefits
Puhpine
Puhpine3w ago
danny2717
danny2717OP3w ago
I will try to use this instead
danny2717
danny2717OP3w ago
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danny2717
danny2717OP3w ago
if that doesn't work I will try yours btw you were very quick to reply, I highly appreciate that
Puhpine
Puhpine3w ago
np!
danny2717
danny2717OP3w ago
never seen such response times before
Puhpine
Puhpine3w ago
lol
danny2717
danny2717OP3w ago
oh wow crazy how they don't provide an uninstaller deleted the folders inside installations there is nothing inside mods
Puhpine
Puhpine3w ago
if you ever see a minecraft mod installer, dont use it. most of them are crap
danny2717
danny2717OP3w ago
okay I hope it didn't corrupt my game or smth
Puhpine
Puhpine3w ago
lets hope not
danny2717
danny2717OP3w ago
btw may I ask you, what amount of RAM should I allocate for DH to work well? I have 32 total, but I've heard that adding too much can cause problems
Puhpine
Puhpine3w ago
using DH 2.2.1 i presume? that is true
danny2717
danny2717OP3w ago
yes
Puhpine
Puhpine3w ago
try around 8-12
danny2717
danny2717OP3w ago
I currently allocated 12 -Xmx12G -XX:+UnlockExperimentalVMOptions -XX:+UseG1GC -XX:G1NewSizePercent=20 -XX:G1ReservePercent=20 -XX:MaxGCPauseMillis=50 -XX:G1HeapRegionSize=32M should pair fine with a 12 core cpu I hope
Puhpine
Puhpine3w ago
i dont know about the java args, im not an expert in those, but yea 12 should be good
danny2717
danny2717OP3w ago
mods are not loading I reinstalled the fabric api didn't fix F I made a backup of my mods prior to adding essentials I will try that okay essentials basically broke the installation or smth because even when I remove it the mods are not loading
Puhpine
Puhpine3w ago
are you using the normal minecraft launcher?
danny2717
danny2717OP3w ago
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danny2717
danny2717OP3w ago
is this the normal one?
Puhpine
Puhpine3w ago
yes maybe try with a third party launcher instead, like the modrinth app
danny2717
danny2717OP3w ago
the problem is I want to get rid of all the essential files hmm perhaps it would be quicker if I just reinstall and delete .minecraft from appdata
Puhpine
Puhpine3w ago
if you use the modrinth app you wont have to touch those files again
danny2717
danny2717OP3w ago
does it automatically clean up the files upon uninstalling?
Puhpine
Puhpine3w ago
the minecraft launcher? no
danny2717
danny2717OP3w ago
I mean the modrinth
Puhpine
Puhpine3w ago
i dont know but in the modrinth app you can make seperate minecraft instances. if one instance is broken, you throw it away and make a new one
danny2717
danny2717OP3w ago
is the fabric loader mod folder supposed to contain mods? I don't mean manually adding them, but usually when it works
danny2717
danny2717OP3w ago
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danny2717
danny2717OP3w ago
it's empty
Puhpine
Puhpine3w ago
okay your .minecraft folder is really broken i think
danny2717
danny2717OP3w ago
yeah essentials is the root cause
Puhpine
Puhpine3w ago
you shouldnt have a .minecraft/installations/fabric-loader-1.21.1 folder
danny2717
danny2717OP3w ago
it basically deletes your mod folder and only puts essentials inside really I have an idea how to fix this
Puhpine
Puhpine3w ago
so what do you want. go the easy route and just use the modrinth app instead, or try to fix the minecraft launcher
danny2717
danny2717OP3w ago
I will create a new fabric snapshot basically and replace my world data files with the new one
Puhpine
Puhpine3w ago
that sounds like youll just make it worse i highly recommend using the modrinth app instead
danny2717
danny2717OP3w ago
I understand, but what are the benefits?
Puhpine
Puhpine3w ago
clean UI, multiple instances, add mods directly from the launcher doesnt take a *** minute to start up
danny2717
danny2717OP3w ago
my mods are working now all I did was reinstall fabric and delete the old snapshot
danny2717
danny2717OP3w ago
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danny2717
danny2717OP3w ago
it's empty as you can see
Puhpine
Puhpine3w ago
huh okay now dont use the installer to install essential
Puhpine
Puhpine3w ago
Modrinth
Essential Mod - Minecraft Mod
The best way to play Minecraft. Enhanced Minecraft features in one simple mod. Fast, friendly, and for everyone!
Puhpine
Puhpine3w ago
use that instead
danny2717
danny2717OP3w ago
I don't know why all of this happened I'll be honest
Puhpine
Puhpine3w ago
or better yet, use e4mc instead of essential because mod installers are crap
danny2717
danny2717OP3w ago
I don't really mess with files much and change stuff
danny2717
danny2717OP3w ago
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danny2717
danny2717OP3w ago
is this good?
Puhpine
Puhpine3w ago
yep looks fine
danny2717
danny2717OP3w ago
I changed 128 to 256 and put cpu to aggressive I'm sorry about the bot warnings, I am not used to not being able to say minor language
Puhpine
Puhpine3w ago
oh well
danny2717
danny2717OP3w ago
all is working now thank you
Puhpine
Puhpine3w ago
np!
danny2717
danny2717OP3w ago
the problem was that BAD Essential installer to summarize it
Puhpine
Puhpine3w ago
yep bad installer from a bad mod
danny2717
danny2717OP3w ago
that installer literally replaces ALL mods and installs itself and adds installation file it stops minecraft from recognizing all mods the funny part is that essential is not even added to the mods folder itself it's crazy
Puhpine
Puhpine3w ago
yea its unbelievable how incredibly stupid those installers are meant to make the process easier but really only make it harder
danny2717
danny2717OP3w ago
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danny2717
danny2717OP3w ago
this is why I use essentials tbh I am just testing it here
Puhpine
Puhpine3w ago
then use this one doesnt come with all those crap cosmetics
danny2717
danny2717OP3w ago
I have 1 minor issue remaining I will right now actually
Puhpine
Puhpine3w ago
what is it?
danny2717
danny2717OP3w ago
I can't get rivatuner to hook to minecraft
Puhpine
Puhpine3w ago
are you using sodium?\
danny2717
danny2717OP3w ago
I'd like to see because I am running DH + shaders yeah
Puhpine
Puhpine3w ago
i dont think sodium and rivatuner like each other very much
danny2717
danny2717OP3w ago
ah
Puhpine
Puhpine3w ago
GitHub
Known Issues
A Minecraft mod designed to improve frame rates and reduce micro-stutter - CaffeineMC/sodium
danny2717
danny2717OP3w ago
so with DH, I basically do not change the default render distance, I only change the LOD distance of DH settings.
Puhpine
Puhpine3w ago
yes
danny2717
danny2717OP3w ago
rivatuner worked now somehow
Puhpine
Puhpine3w ago
lol odd
danny2717
danny2717OP3w ago
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danny2717
danny2717OP3w ago
but the frametime graph is painful
spacekot
spacekot3w ago
vanilla rd 2 dh 512 lol
Puhpine
Puhpine3w ago
because you put cpu load on agressive
danny2717
danny2717OP3w ago
it improved a bit now but in general during gameplay, it doesn't feel smooth I am running DH compatible shaders only currently photon
Puhpine
Puhpine3w ago
reduce the cpu load preset and itll run smoother
danny2717
danny2717OP3w ago
are you sure? It's not maxed out, cpu is 50-70% at most
Puhpine
Puhpine3w ago
yes cpu usage is complicated
danny2717
danny2717OP3w ago
done My issue is fixed so I guess we can close this support file thank you again
Puhpine
Puhpine3w ago
np! you can close it by doing this
danny2717
danny2717OP3w ago
I think it's closed now have a nice day
Puhpine
Puhpine3w ago
you too!

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