NVIDIA ISO refuses to install, help appreciated
Been working on this all day and finally throwing a lifeline out here in case someone can help. I've checked the GITHUB for active issues that are similar but nothing quite fits.
I am new to Linux and installed the Gnome version for Intel Arc on my laptop with no issues and love it. PC's turn. I want to dual boot my primary desktop PC (intel i9-14900K, NVIDIA RTX 4080, Gigabyte Z790 GAMING X AX, 96GB RAM) with the existing Win11 install and Bazzite until I'm confident it's working and I can fully wipe Windows.
I can't get beyond launching the install media with the current NVIDIA Open Stable ISO, except twice, and receive a variety of errors when I try different approaches.
Errors
1) "AttributeError: 'GzipFile' object has no attribute 'fileobj'. Did you mean: 'myfileobj'?"
2) "AttributeError: '_GzipReader' object has no attirbute '_crc'"
3) Most common error: "Pane is dead (signal 11, Mon Dec 30 19:34:52 2024)." CTRL+ALT+F2 does nothing.
4) Twice I was able to get into the installation screen by skipping the checks and trying the older NVIDIA ISO, then manually partition, after getting to the deploying stage of the install, this error pops: "Installing bazzite following error occurred while installing the payload: this is a fatal error and installation will be aborted. the command 'ostree container image deploy--sysroot=/mnt/sysimage--image=run/install/repo/bazzite-nvidia-open-stable --tarnsport=oci--no-signature-verification' exited with the code --4"
Here's what I've tried:
1) Verified the checksum, ISO is fine
2) Etching with Balena and Rufus separately
3) Both GPT and MBR type etches
4) Etching as DD image vs ISO in case that was a contributing factor
5) Secure Boot is disabled
6) Fast boot is disabled
7) Tried the NVIDIA Stable ISO vs the NVIDIA Open Stable ISO (the older one)
8) Tried safe graphics version
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Another note: I tested another Linux Distro, Elementary OS, and it immediately booted into live environment (did not install). I have also in the past successfully installed Pop_OS (disliked it) without issue. It is completely wiped and there are no other ubuntu launchers in the UEFI or EFI partition that would interfere with installation.
Have you disabled secure boot?
Fast boot?
I have disabled both secure and fast boot, yes
Hmm.
Maybe try remaking the USB? Might be some kind of error that happened in that process
Lol I guess I missed that part in your post mb
Idk man that's a real head scratcher for sure.
I'm convinced it's something to do with my machine but I can't figure out what it is
Just tried to install Mint, Elementary, and Zorin and those all failed too. The only success was Pop_OS, and I installed that on a different* drive. Is it possible Windows is locking down the drive somehow?
Definitely.
I'm using an i7 14700kf and a 4080 super and install Bazzite np. Gotta be something going on with the image or the bios settings. What bios are you using? Islike what brand is the mobo?
It's possible. I did once have significant issues installing Bazzite on my ally x because windows was hibernating instead of shut down when I booted and tried to install. Have you tried booting back into windows?
You'll know it's windows if ya try booting into windows and have problems. When that happened it blocked my Bazzite install and simultaneously corrupted my windows install and I had to use cloud recovery to delete windows which allowed me to proceed. It was a long night lol
Booting back to windows works with no issue; the image also checksummed with no problems so I don't think it's that, though who knows at this point? Mobo is Gigabyte Z790 GAMING X AX which should be fine
Did ya try making a different USB? used another USB port? Maybe some issues there?
I'm shooting in the dark at this point
But process of elimination.
Definitely a strange situation. @Kyle Gospo
No worries, I also went through those. Tried a diff USB and swapped USB ports to make sure I was using 2.0 instead of 3.0 in case that mattered Also tried the NVIDIA legacy build. No go
One of my drives is now reporting corrupted so I'm running chkdsk and it's reporting it has 4:41:26 left
Maybe try the regular and build. 😂
Can always rebase provided you can get it installed
AMD**
although I doubt the problem is related to the branch you're using
It's weird - I can live boot other distros at least, but installation fails on those. With the Bazzite ISOs I am lucky if I even make it to the installer screen. Usually I choose to boot into the installer from GRUB and it immediately goes dark and gives me the "Pane is Dead" error message
Interesting, would that even work with NVIDIA?
Afaik it should. At least it should boot. Won't run games but should boot
Okay...here's what I'm going to try. I'm going to operate on the assumption that perhaps the issue is that Windows is throwing a hissy fit and locking down the drive I was attempting to use. I've dug out an external hard drive mount and I'm going to find an old drive tomorrow once this chkdsk is complete and connect that. If the installer actually loads from the ISO, I'll just throw that drive at it and see what happens when everything is completely separated from Windows
If that fails, I'll try the AMD route like you suggested and try to pull the drivers down
And if all of that fails, it has to be something in the BIOS. I've gone through and disabled CSM, secure boot, fast boot, everything that I can find, but maybe there's something I'm missing.
did you ever try fedora media writer?
Have you tried turning off fast startup? (I have no idea why the setting is in Hardware and Sound....)
This.
i thought fast boot and fast startup is the same thing
fast boot skips the scan for other devices on boot. fast startup hibernates the windows kernel to disk when you shutdown.
yes.
but i'm pretty sure the attempted installation of bazzite would have corrupted his windows installation if this was the case
or maybe i'm just really unlucky shrugs
first thing i do after windows install: powercfg /h off
I also do that, you get a nice amount of wasted disk space back. Hibernate is pretty pointless with fast SSD drives
it disables fast startup at the same time because it requires that kernel power variable to be on 🙂
I know it disables fast startup but are you sure about it disabling fast boot?
fast startup*
fast boot just minimizes POST to barebones
which will save you a whole second on modern systems, hence it barely exists anymore
Maybe the ISO is just broken again? It seems unrelated to hardware issues
the errors
Best thing you can do if it doesn't work is using Fedora Kinoite and rebase from there
You already tested another distro, which works fine, so something isn't right with the installer
If you use KDE: https://fedoraproject.org/atomic-desktops/kinoite/download
it will take a bit more to rebase to bazzite.
Fedora Kinoite
We're so glad you've decided to give Fedora Kinoite a try. We know you'll love it.
Rebase Guide - Bazzite Documentation
Bazzite is a custom image built upon Fedora Atomic Desktops that brings the best of Linux gaming to all of your devices.
Just make sure you go from KDE to KDE or from GNOME to GNOME
Thanks, all - I'll check fast startup within the actual system and see if it's on, didn't realize it's different than fast boot. I can also try rebasing, but last night when I gave installing Mint a shot, that also failed. The main difference is that I was actually able to get to the installer screen with Mint vs most of the time I couldn't even get the ISO for Bazzite to load beyond choosing the install option in GRUB before it crashes with "pane is dead" errors. I have a corrupted disk now that chkdsk has been attempting to fix since 2100 last night and is only at 70% so I'm not able to attempt anything else until that's finished
Son of a gun, it was on.
I really hope that solves your issue. Else I have no other ideas
Nope, didn't work. Just tried to run the installer from the USB and it immediately popped "Pane is dead" before even getting to the primary menu again.
It threw an error 110 before getting to the pane is dead message
Just tried safe graphics troubleshooting mode and that also fails. New error: "AttributeError: 'TerritoriesContentHandler' object has no attribute '_save_to'"
Running with nomodeset results in "AttributeError: 'GzipReader' object has no attribute '_crc'"
You don't have Intel RST enabled in the bios by any chance? Intel's raid technology breaks alot of Linux installs
Didn't even know that was a thing; the specs page for my mobo (https://www.aorus.com/en-us/motherboards/Z790-GAMING-X-AX-rev-2x/Specification) says that it has RAID support but I'm not sure if it's on. I'll boot into the BIOS and check.
If it is on and you turn it off it might break windows
Well crap
Not seeing any RAID or Intel RST mentions anywhere in the mobo
I did find this where someone with your model had a problem with an update disabling raid https://community.intel.com/t5/Rapid-Storage-Technology/Z790-bios-Update-kills-intel-RST-raid/m-p/1516285
Re:Z790 bios Update kills intel RST raid
Hello Taichi, Thank you for posting on the Intel® communities. I would be upset in this situation and to help you with this issue I would like to gather the following: 1. Run the Intel® System Support Utility (Intel® SSU) to gather more details about the system. Download the Intel® SSU an...
I'm currently scraping through the BIOS. I do have 220 forbidden signatures under my secure boot variables that I can wipe. Interesting link; I just looked through it and my bios looks absolutely nothing like that and I can't find any reference to RAID configuration anywhere. All SATA is set to eSATA with no specific format as far as I can tell
If you have a spare SSD drive and an enclosure, I'd try install Bazzite on another machine and then try and boot it on this machine and see what happens
Erasing signatures results in new error: "RunTimeError: Invalid SRE code"
Hm. I don't have another comp to test this one other than an extremely old Chrome book that I haven't booted up in 2 years
Yeah... maybe not
I can try it on my laptop. Just worried about the laptop breaking since this one is running fine on Bazzite Gnome. Plus it's Intel Arc, not NVIDIA
Burned to a new USB hoping that was the issue and there's a new error now: "Service org.fedoraproject.Anaconda.Modules.Storage has failed to start: Process org.fedoraproject.Anaconda.Modulse.Storage exited with status 1"
I just tried to at least get to the install screen on my laptop and it booted straight into it immediately, so I think I can confidently say that it isn't the usb drive and it isn't the ISO (as far as I know since I didn't try to install). There's clearly something going on with my PC that is blocking it from running
Such a strange problem.
Typically if you load an nvidia version of Bazzite on a machine with AMD the mesa drivers will take over and the nvidia drivers won't get loaded.
Alright, so not a viable option in that case. I just wish I knew what was causing the installer to fail to load at all
Probably worth putting it on ice for a bit and see if someone else has any ideas or a similar issue
Actually.. is your BIOS up to date? I remember a thread where someone couldn't install and they just had a bunch of outstanding BIOS updates that were needed to add proper linux support
I thought my BIOS was - last time I updated it was August 2024. Just checked and I have a Sep 2024 update. I can't imagine there would be THAT much difference, but I'm flashing it now
Strange update - BIOS successfully flashed. Went through settings and disabled secure boot, fast boot, csm again. Changed usb ports, successfully loaded Installation menu ( ‼️ ) and now it's stuck on the install menu. Under "System" where you choose the drives, "Installation Destination" is grayed out with a yellow warning triangle and the word "Processing..."
"Time & Date" are also grayed out
I'm guessing that something is happening and it's stuggling to load the drives. The Fedora installer has always been fun. Maybe try and install some other Linux and see if that now as you getting a different error
Alternatively try Silverblue/Kinoite and see if you get the same error
I gave it another shot at loading into the installation and it immediately reverted to the "Pane is Dead" error, so I decided to follow your suggestion and try another Linux distro - Zorin - and the installer booted immediately without any issues, but when it opened, it said, "Your computer has multiple operating systems on it. Do you want to install Zorin alongside them?" This is very confusing to me, since so far the only successful install I've managed on this computer was POP_OS, which I disliked and didn't work for any of my games, so I completely removed its partitions, removed it from the UEFI options, and manually removed it from the existing EFI partition on my C drive. Is there something I missed for removing it, perhaps?
Update: turns out it's Mint, which...how?? The install for that failed, as well, when I tried it yesterday. Maybe there's something lurking in the EFI partition that I need to dig out.
Weird update: finally got a distro to install (Zorin) when I wasn't able to get Bazzite to boot whatsoever even into the installation screen. Kept black-screening - finally realized that if I didn't have at least one monitor connected to the mobo, it will not boot. It will be in the operating system, on the home page, and if I unplug the display from the mobo and connect it to the GPU, it immediately black-screens. Still cannot get Bazzite to boot even to the installer screen without the 'pane is dead' error. Going to download the distro that released 9 hours ago and check that.
I don't wanna fear monger but if it works fine on mobo port but not on GPU port it sounds like some kind of GPU problem. Or at least some interaction between bios and GPU.
If Bazzite installs properly on iGPU, you can try to install it there and then try to boot it from nvidia. This way you're at least sure it's not an installer issue, but a kernel/driver/hardware issue.
Also make sure CSM is disabled if your motherboard has it
It in a lot of cases causes all sorts of issues.
CSM allows loading of legacy BIOS drivers, which on a modern system is not needed.
Also, make sure you have your BIOS fully up to date. The new BIOS fixes some faulty default settings imposed by Intel to increase stability (at the cost of some performance, but its minimal).
Good luck.
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NP, have confirmed CSM is disabled and Bazzite cannot install properly in any situation - only other distros installed properly. I also updated my BIOS just two days ago to the latest release so it definitely isn't the cause in this case, though that is a good note to check.
A friend sent me this thread - looks like maybe I'm not the only one and the recent NVIDIA drivers are breaking things for others https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/s/2HtMuj3Fe7
Hard to compare to arch
Every Nvidia install is unique and this user could quite literally just be stupid
Here we all have the same files, bit for bit
If this was a common thing there'd be more than one user (you) with this issue
On top of that the installer has no Nvidia drivers in it
It's a stock Fedora Linux kernel, no extras
And you can't even get that to work
If the iGPU works, I'm thinking the GPU you got has really bad firmware that only Windows recognizes properly
Could look for your particular GPU and also you could try updating the firmware (only do this on Windows) through here
This is the one applicable to 4080 or 4090
It's safe to run as it will first determine if a firmware update is needed
Who knows whether this will somehow solve your issue, no guarantees give obviously, but it seems very specific to your motherboard+gpu combination. That's usually what determines system specific issues.
Or there's unknown hardware issues with the GPU that only shows itself when you try to boot Linux.
@CheckYourFax We were able to install Arch Linux with the latest NVIDIA drivers and gnome without issue on @GoldenQuetzal 's machine. No hiccups whatsoever. Not sure where to proceed from here.
We're going to look at your firmware suggestion.
Have to do it on Windows. If screen goes blank at any time, wait 10 sec and press "y" and then it should reboot
Still going to look into your suggestion, but Nobara works perfectly too... With Zorin and Bazzite, we can't even get to the installers.
But can you get to install with the iGPU?
It could very well be that the kernel version the iso runs on has a regression
and if you can get past installation and have bazzite fully installed, the problem could go away on its own
This could be somewhat related: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1523331/ubuntu-24-04-instability-after-bios-update-random-reboots
Ask Ubuntu
Ubuntu 24.04 Instability After BIOS Update: Random reboots
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"Gigabyte Z790 GAMING X AX DDR5 LGA1700"
Same motherboard
the person with that issue runs on 6.8
I'm thinking there's just some compatibility issues with your motherboard and the installer's kernel version that may have been resolves in newest kernel, but because the installer usually runs on an older kernel version, it might just be a broken mismatch between mobo and kernel version. This could explain why some distro's install and others don't.
I believe the F41 ISO's ship with 6.11 so I'm assuming that's also the version that is run by the ISO.
@noprobelm Have you tried a complete BIOS reset already too, and disabling/enabling XMP?
I've been digging around as you can see, and some people are even seeing stability issues with the F11 BIOS version on Windows, not just on Linux.
Short these two pins with a screwdriver or paperclip. (or an actual jumper if you have one)
make sure PC is turned off obviously.
We managed to get it working with Nobara last night but NVIDIA refused to recognize the correct resolution. At this point, given the depths of my hatred for Microsoft, I'm going to build an AMD PC and remove myself entirely from NVIDIA as a problem. Appreciate all of the help here trying to figure this out. 💀
As I'm picking a motherboard, based on current issues with this one, is it safe to say that I should avoid Gigabyte? Are there any mobo providers that are ideal?
There is no single motherboard manufacturer that you should avoid
Gigabyte is absolutely fine, as is MSI, as is Asus, as is ASROCK
The only issues you might come across are going to depend on the hardware on the board, such as one of them may be shipping an incompatible Wi-Fi adapter
And that's on a board-by-board basis and not on a manufacturer basis
Thx - like what I'm seeing w/ethernet compatability with the x870e boards, I'm assuming?
More or less, yes
Safer to defect to the 870s and avoid the es, or is that a moot point given it's board by board?
Moot, it's board by board
You can always post what you're looking at here and we can make an educated guess
Appreciate that, thanks. I was looking at the MSI Carbon X870E (https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144666?Item=N82E16813144666) and all parts on
PCPartPicker https://pcpartpicker.com/user/GoldenQuetzal/saved/WT8Dzy
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There was a user I had before that had a newer revision of the 5Gbit Realtek ethernet port
that was only supported from 6.12
but that's what you get for running brand new hardware
Nice build btw 🙂
im assuming these are not all new parts?
Appreciate that, thanks. While I'm relatively new to modern Linux (used to beta test Jolicloud back in the day), I do work in tech so I'm not an idiot lol that's why I was so confused when I couldn't get this working
Not all are new, no - I have to replace the memory, mobo, CPU, and GPU
not sure why you'd want to choose for random brand SSD's. these often have firmware bugs that leave you with corrupted filesystems on power failure/hard resets
especially btrfs doesn't like it
Ah okay
makes sense then, no problem
Hm interesting. I've had those for a while and they've been fine, but who knows? I'd eventually like to build a NAS to house the long term storage items and I have everything currently in a cloud backup and cloned to old drives
random brand m.2 ssd's are hit and miss
sata's are usually fine
if you ever buy new on, go for WD Black, Seagate, Samsung, Lexar is pretty good.
too
Is there a reason you want such a big 1600W PSU? or is that also existing part
That is an existing part and I had to have that beefy psu for the 4080 and i9-14900k
The power demand was nuts
oh yeah
yeah i9 14th gen is insane
AMD is a lot less power hungry
CPU wise
The 7900 XTX does not need more than a 1000W PSU, that's why 🙂
100%, I'm probably going to give my current mobo/CPU/GPU to my spouse since they want to upgrade anyway and are all-in Windows ("why would you want to use Linux when you can use group policy to lock down Windows" lol) and I might trade for their lower watt supply
btw, do not use CableMod double sided adapters for the 12Vpwr. The full cables are fine, the adapters are not
So if 870e is probably not worth the risk, maybe the Steel Legend https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813162165 or the MSI Tomahawk https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144667
this is what happens with those old cablemod adapters
It will work fine
Jesus, did that melt?
Damn there goes my stormtrooper look
Yes
They've been fine so far but I also haven't checked them
I did not realize you didn't know this
😮
No, been using them since I built the current pc
use the adapters included with the GPU
for the love of your new GPU
😬 👍
do you mean the 870e would work fine or either of the alternates
the 870e will work fine
even USB4 support should be functional with that asmedia chip
I checked the hardware
but you won't lose out too much with other Z870 mobo's
That Realtek 8126 rev 2.0 just recently got support in 6.12 which just the other day shipped with Bazzite. According to the other user who also uses a 870E the realtek 5Gbit port works fine on 6.12
Okay that's good to know - I just found a complaint about it in one of the newegg reviews saying it doesn't work at all for linux, so perhaps that user rec'd a bad board
Well if that review is from when the board just came out, that is entirely within the realm of possibility
It was probably "Ethernet doesn't work=Linux doesn't work"
makes sense that ethernet doesn't work if the hardware id wasn't added to kernel driver support yet 🙂
here's the one I found
@GoldenQuetzal https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/msi-mpg-x870e-carbon-wifi-owners.18994720/page-9 Looks like most stuff should work on 6.11+
Overclockers UK Forums
MSI MPG x870e Carbon WiFi Owners
and then I played with the BIOS again and wifi stopped working again in windows. had to reset cmos but at least I saved a bios profile. After resetting the BIOS back to default, wifi comes back again. I really don't want to play a process of illumination to work out which setting is the...
The ethernet complaints were in a different forum
you need to have CSM off
anyway
this user has no idea about anything linux
ignore
user probably thinks legacy bios mode needs to be enabled for linux support lmao
"I want my computer to be broken!"
this is a 5-star review
Gotcha, thanks for clarifying that. It's reviews like this that end up confusing newer adopters like myself
this is proof the board is fully funcitonal
it literally won't let him make the mistake he's trying to make
That's hilarious
🤔 Thoughts on waiting for the new AMD GPU series? Should I anticipate any early adopter issues with AMD working so well with Linux?
@GoldenQuetzal biggest feature of RDNA4 is better raytracing and slightly higher clock speeds. It's not leap and years of innovation in RNDA4.
If that is worth waiting for, that's for you to decide 🙂
RDNA4 is not focusing on the high-end market either.
If you want a high end AMD card, 7900 XTX will continue to exist. It is not being replaced by RDNA4, as AMD is not focusing on the high end with the new cards.
That's true, I did see that. I love ray tracing ever since I first played Cyberpunk 2077 with it on, and Veilguard was stunning with it, too
RX 9070 XT will however have near the same ray tracing performance as the 4080
allegedly
nothing is confirmed yet
Okay so that's going to be comparable to what I currently have then. Might be worth waiting for. I'm debating based on possible impact of US tariffs whether to buy sooner than later and if I should just pull the trigger on the 7900 xtx or hope for the 9070xt
They're making announcements at CES tomorrow, right?
But the 7900 XTX also has near the same performance as a 4080
besides ray tracing
True. I just hate the idea of dropping 800+$ and then turning around a few months later and buying yet another GPU for more
This is mostly a FOMO mindset that in practice matters little. Might as well wait for RDNA5 for even better performance 😛
LOL well I have to wait for the 9800X3D regardless since it's sold out everywhere except for scalpers on ebay
fair. i think RDNA4 is close
but you will probably get early adopter issues on linux
but RDNA4 support is merged in 6.13
fair, that was my concern