Hosting a server
I read in another post that there might be better and cheaper alternatives to what I already have.
So, what do you use when hosting a server? What are your opinions? Both VPS and Hosting are fine.
For simplicity, let's say that experience is not a problem and it is for a single Paper server with around 40-70 people.
Good amount but not enough justify paying for the absolute best available on the market.
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region & budget please
Region: US
Budget idk, lowest possible without sacrificing too much quality ig
enviro premium is pretty damn good
Berrybyte, prismnodes
Bloom host to some degree
For example, I've been using a Hostinger VPS, which is fine for me and I haven't had problems so far with them, but a guy said there could be better and cheaper alternatives, so I wanted ot read what other people think
hostinger CPUs are generally not great
I'll take a look
how much are you paying for your VPS & what specs?
16gb, 4vCPU for 30usd aprox from last time I did a sv
clock speed is not listed
But I tested it at the time and yh, it wasn't that great
yeah not worth it
better off using a shared host
Lilypad is fantastic too
Do you have the urls?
I normally prefer VPS so I have some flexibility with my setup, but if host are better, I won't complain
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With VPSs you are susceptible to noisy neighbours
I thought that was also the case with shared hosting
Good to know
If they oversell then yes
but most decent hosts donโt
with a vps itโs far easier to do
4100 on premium enviro, wow
GHz is irrelevant btw ^^
you should look at cpu singlethreaded performance
PassMark CPU Benchmarks - Single Thread Performance
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(use cpubenchmark.net)
yeah
I was using that
you want a singlethread above 3k, preferably above 3.2-3.4k
especially for 70 players
However, it is 40usd for 16Gib, still 10usd over the setup with hostinger
Realistically speaking, only 13-14 were usable
for a better cpu Iโd take it
the rest was for the os and gc
what was the cpu though
for hostinger
If you still have the hostinger vps run a spark report
it will tell you the cpu
(hopefully)
So, when u purchase 16 ram in a hosting, you actually get 16 ram? Or do you have to discount what the gc and other processes might consume?
I'm not experienced with hosting as you might notice
You actually get 16GB but you always have to leave overhead for the GC - thatโs just how Java works
you can use Aikarโs flags to alleviate this though
idk, I haven't done a server there in a couple of months
But it wasn't good
Most hostinger CPUs are Xeons or epycs
which are poor
Probably around 3000
and absolutely cannot do 70 players
let me check if I have a spark report around there (and hopefully has not been cleared yet)
for 10 bucks more for a far better cpu Iโd take it
Found one
They use AMD EPYC 9354P 32-Core Processor
Doesn't even appear here tho
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+EPYC+9354P&id=5173
2857 pretty low
yeah
Yh, definetly
btw, when using hosting, do I get to choose stuff like the jvm implementation I wanna use?
Server jar ig should be a yes
Yes, most hosts let you choose startup flags yourself (or you make a ticket and they change it for you)
Some let you ask for custom java docker images (enviro let me use a custom official ptero graalvm image)
(as well as server jar of course, you get full access over your files)
I wanted to play around a bit with graalvm this time, I want to do a test server in a couple of weeks
Well, I call them "test server" because it doesn't have everything I'd like them to have
In reality those could very well be a fully functional small sv
you can make a ticket with hosts and see if theyโll let you do a free trial
Iโve used graalvm and itโs been fantastic
(I use graalvm*)
Might give enviro a try then
:ThumbsUp:
they also give unmetered storage (soft cap at 60gb iirc so you make a ticket for an increase)
Since I'm already used to those 30usd, probably will have to cut a bit on ram
which is very nice
yeah
Only thing that worries me, not sure if I can explain myself, is if I get the full ram on the advertisement and enviro takes what the gc need.
in other words, if I pay for 16GB, the startup flag will contain
-Xmx16G (they take care of the gc) or a little bit less? Like -Xmx14G (I take care of the gc)14gb is generally fine
Because 2gb of overhead is usually plenty
So I do get the ram reduced in the startup flags (I take care of the gc)
Do you have an url so I can check your prices?
Context is that I wanted to hear opinions from other people regarding this topic
thxx
The scenario in the post is fictional, my real scenario is an smaller playercount server but using custom models and stuff, so it gets heavy animating models and other stuff.
The "test server" is basically a fully functional server, because I've been running seasonal servers for a couple of years, but since I'm running out of ideas, I wanted to make a stable long-term network this time.
I called them "test" because I strip some features from the main sv on the network, but for my community those are just another seasonal server, so they just join like usual
Yh, it helps a lot to test not only performance and bugs, but also gameplay, yk, if whatever I created is actually fun
ts turned into marketplace real fast
fr
Still got quite a lot of information I didn't know, plus plenty of alternatives to choose from
personally I use a hetzner dedicated with a ryzen 7700. It's germany only and their ddos prot is stinky, but it's cheap enough
Seems nice, only issue is the location and probably the price
I would recommend https://ultraservers.com/aff.php?code=Usvsuaiqkqnaua
They have a sale right now where the 1st month is 90% off and 70% off lifetime discount, been using this with my other modpacks too and trying this modpack on 12gb ram is not a issue
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omg we should call this channel questions-and-marketplace
Welp if my comment was in the wrong you can remove it, im just suggesting what im using rn
nah dw
just
staff donโt want host discussions like this in questions rn afaik
cause
they took the marketplace down for a reason
probably should close the post then
I did got a lot of technical information I didn't know about hosting/vps, which was the original intention
So, thx for that โค๏ธ
Well that makes sense
Sorry for my kinda advertisement of a comment then
Np, still useful
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