Second opinion on suit fit
Got the suit from here: https://discord.com/channels/1116793467654381685/1306431639483711518
Jacket feels abit too large, and pants feel abit too small/slim.
Would like a second opinion on how it looks from someone more experienced with tailoring.
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honestly, the jacket looks great to me and i think its just the contrast with the pants that are making it look weird because theyre definitely going for different fits
although some of thats also the angle you're taking these at
were these sold together?
As in oversized top and slim bottom?
I can try a different pant I guess?
Yeap off Vinted
Take 2, but they’re very obviously different fabrics
I really don’t think the suit is oversized at all. This particular kind of blazer is very out of the norm and just doesn’t have the fit that a typical, “modern” silhouette you can get off the rack these days. You can take it to a tailor and they perhaps take the sides in but it honestly looks like everything fits how it supposed to. The pants are a little short, see if a tailor could make them longer.
Yeah it’s definitely quite out there 😅
Hmm, if I were to tailor the suit pants I think I’d need to let out the waist too
Check the inside of the pant to see if there’s any leftover material for a tailor to let out. Idk if these have been altered already but almost all suit pants will have extra material on the back rise area for adjustments.
For sure! I’d say wear it around a little and just see how you feel about it. I think since the suit is already doing so much, it makes it relatively easy to accessorize when picking your tie and a good watch. Honestly, you could do some interesting things with it if you wanted to lean into it’s quirky factor
the jacket is gorgeous and reminds me of one of my favorite simple suits on runway on my last few years - the sillhouette from Saint Laurent FW24 (this one is actually oversized)
The pants are folded once, so maybe it can be undone to lengthen it?
I’ll be honest, the current suit pants are slim/tapered enough that I don’t really want to bother with them
but like you can see how looking at an actual oversized double-breasted suit yours is kind of fitting closer to how it's traditionally supposed to- i don't think yours is oversized at all
depending how the pants are structured taking the cuff out may help with this slightly
but alternatively the jacket just looks really nice as a separate and you would have no issues just wearing it kinda like this
Hmm I think both jackets are extended wider than the actual shoulder, but his is much longer and “drapier”
Am I reading it right?
not wrong but yours doesn't look that far off the shoulder at least to me
although the real test is in motion- i can't eyeball the shoulder fit that much from photos with the arms down unless the shoulder is too small or comically too big
how does it feel in the jacket?
Uhh it extends quite a bit out from my natural shoulder
how does the shoulder move
ah ok
i mean thats not a dealbreaker but obviously kinda annoying
But I just took it off to go sleep, I can get a video in like 8 ish hours
i mean you dont need to really i trust your shoulders to know where they are
Yeah it’s definitely not what I’m used to
the fit isn't bad - imo DB suits are meant to be a little more boxy vs single breakested
i think the jacket fit is decent if you're playing it "straight" but for a relaxed fit like you suggest i'd size up imo
(i also think the shirt is a little short in the sleeve for the jacket but that's a separate deal)
yea I also like the original pants+suit combo. The pants just look smaller because of the angle and the heavy crease. It's just an unusually cut suit, but cool imo.
i mean yeah the crease is making the pants look more tapered than they are
i feel like the pants are slim but i'm not sure if that's just an optical illusion from the crease
yeah thats what im thinking i feel like the side view will redeem them
I think the seller gave 9” hem as a measurement
Hmm, I’ll be honest I’m not very confident in my ability to eyeball oversized suiting
if the intention is 'relaxed suit' i think this comes closer (with a bigger jacket); as is i think the jacket is fine to wear alone as a separate
Especially when it comes to trying to create that relaxed drapey vibe ala the ysl suit
i fully empathize, hence why my search for a big DB is on the backburner lol; short of trying on in person you're at the mercy of how they measure which has burned me before
yea, everyone measures a bit differently online :/
Hmm yeah, somehow it doesn’t read as relaxed suiting when paired with wide pants
I think with DB suits being boxy, the pants are supposed to be slimmer to emphasize the jacket.
im on hold until i win the lottery or try something really nice on irl
gonna disagree with this
It reads very straight on trad suiting?
Instead of like “fashion” suiting?
yes (and that's on me for not specifying); it fits in the traditional sense, close to the body
Hmm, it’s actually quite spacious around the body and shoulders though
side view would be helpful imo
I think this is to the suit’s benefit though
Like intentionally the fit of the suit is to have that room
Looks like I’ll have to do this to get a better diagnosis 🫡
If the goat can’t do it what hope have I :nooooo:
Honestly fair enough, I’m a larger guy so I’m not entirely sure how a DB is supposed to fit, I just know sometimes if you have fits that emphasize the shoulders, slim/slim straight pants can create a V silhouette that some prefer
Yeah I think it’s a very vintage suit thing?
It is and I personally think the move to tighter “tailored” suits is a mistake lololol
Hmm, fwiw I think my tastes right now lean towards more balanced silhouettes
there's a whole tier of tailoring nerds i defer to lmao
Personally, (and I will not claim to be the foremost expert on these kinds of suits) I think what throws me off about the blazer is that it should be like 3 inches longer. If it were to be the case then the proportions would a little better and the pants being slim wouldn’t be as much of a big deal imo
this was a pretty brief modern phenomenon that we're already moving away from- it's absolutely something that exists but its not the historical norm nor is it the contemporary trend which is why i objected to presenting it without context
i agree that its a little short yeah
not a dig at you by any means to be clear just trying to correct the record
Oh I respect it broski, no hate here
Just trying to do right by OP as best we can
like for instance when you look at influential Historical Menswear Guy ™️ and also literal fascist the Duke Of Windsor hes not doing it
So you’re saying that tight suits is the socialist agenda at play?
jkjkjk
but yeah i think the main thing is that the jacket is a tiny bit short (keep in mind that you're shooting from a very low pov so the perspective is a little off)
here's the very based Yves Saint Laurent also not doing it
short yes, 3 inches i'm not as sure
ik youre not serious but i cant not use my prep
Hmmm, I think I can take from a more neutral angle when there’s some sunlight
I am always committed to the bit
Thanks guys I’ll sleep on what you guys have said
bc like looking at this where you're further away from the camera it doesnt look as short (although maybe just a touch still)
alright salty have a gn
Yeah the sleeves don’t end that far from the body here either
Oh wow yeah this is not a suit
Oh my b I didn’t realize how many messages this thread had
Hey I’m happy to engage in spirted debate on how a DB suit should fit anytime
beans being in the thread makes me nervous because it means one of the realest suiting knowers here is checking my work
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It might be the angle but I think the jacket is too short. It’s a v cool cut tho. 6x1s are really fun
I’m newbie who wants to help pls don’t hurt me 🥺🥺🥺
Omg ty :blushcatto:
Okay I did some skimming. Some really cool examples of a few different DB fits in this thread but my issues with this suit are how slim the pants are all over and how short the jacket looks (it might be the angle but given that your whole wrist is visible isn’t a good sign)
The jacket cut I think is cool. A bit drapey/stiff which feels less like the Saint Laurent suit adaptation linked and more like a “normal” suit but the 6x1 is cool and I always like them even if it’s not quite my personal style
If this was sold to you as a suit that’s crazy
Extremely not a suit haha
the Take 2 pic is with pants you already own, right?
Oh that makes more sense
Whoever made that suit had some weird preferences
Yeah that’s right
The take 2 pic was me trying on different pants to try a different silhouette
More views with better lighting and shot from chest/waist height
Looks good my man 👍
jacket is a little short (maybe an inch) imo but it's not a death sentence
In the arms and/or body?
I think my right arm is like an inch longer than my left arm as well lol
a little short in the body
have you noticed that with other tops you've worn? if that is a concern a tailor can easily adjust one sleeve, it's not uncommon
pants are -imo- fine, assuming the pant-shoe-interaction is to your liking (ie is there a break, how much of a break, etc)
Yeap
I’ll considering tailoring it, but I’m not sure since I’m not super attached to it yet
Yeah I’ll need to try it out with a shoe, have not quite worked that part out yet
Notice how much longer the jacket here is versus the one posted, though. Thus changes the visual effect
Try going wider with the trousers and using a slight crop, cropping the trousers should riff off of the cropped body of the jacket and make it look far more stylistically intentional. Have the tailor pin it up and walk around a bit, check it out in the mirror and see if you like the look
Also, pro tip on cropped trousers, ask the tailor if there's enough fabric to cuff put a thick and heavy cuff on the trousers to put some visual weight there and also weigh them down so they drape better
I KNEW it was the angle
This looks so much better
This looks wayyy better. I still agree with zeo, it’s a bit short esp in the body but not nearly as bad as id thought
adapt posted that look to show this jacket is not oversized, it's his next comment. https://discord.com/channels/1116793467654381685/1311105400732389446/1311122879731077174
Ah okay
Uhh I’m not sure how possible is it to untaper and “unslim” the suit pants
Thanks guys
What do you guys think of the pant crease
Yeah it'll heavily depend on whatever allowances there are in them.
i don't mind the crease given how angular everything else is but it's a matter of preference
you can always iron it to make it more visible or wear your pants more to make it less prominent
I think you bring up a good point re angular ness
These pants are unstructured and it feels abit off
Like it clashes against the vibe of the structured jacket
I could also be reading too deeply into a badly taken 2d photo so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
i agree with adapt with respect to that picture making being more indicative of the length of the suit jacket
while the jacket and pant in that picture don't really go together for a number of reasons imo, i think the pant width is nice and worth considering if wearing the jacket as a separate
I’ll gladly hear your thoughts if you’re willing to type em out
no problem 🙂
- the color and pattern in the pants aren't close enough to pass as a suit but aren't distinct enough to read as suit separates
- as you mentioned, the lack of structure in the pants isn't reflected in the jacket; if a DB jacket was made of the same fabric as the pants i would say jump on it
- there's a clash in styles represented, the traditional DB up top (both in color and fit) and the more modern cargo pant in the bottom
that said i stand by "the jacket could be worn separately" even if, ideally, the jacket were slightly longer (https://discord.com/channels/1116793467654381685/1116800072093532191/1274394724836315187, https://discord.com/channels/1116793467654381685/1116800072093532191/1281266511478259756)
No reason not to try it, I think it’s a little more structured than I’d like for a casual separate, but there are ways it could work I’m sure.
Suit overall looks way better in the new picture
Im not sure if my wardrobe has anything to support it as a separate
The intention when buying it was definitely wearing it as a suit