Javascript questions

Hey, i have a few questions about javascript: 1) Why do people not recommend onclick but rather adding an event listener? What are the differences? 2) Given the example in the codepen, the code increments a counter when a button is clicked. Why is it that inside of the event listener, i have to wrap calling incrementCount() in an arrow function, like so: incrementButton.addEventListener("click", () => incrementCount()), rather than incrementButton.addEventListener("click", incrementCount()) for it to work? If i don't the button doesn't do anything and the count variable is automatically upped to 1 upon page load? https://codepen.io/deerCabin/pen/mdNVBGE Thank you in advance.
16 Replies
Jochem
Jochem3mo ago
1) Because interactivity should live in Javascript, not in HTML. 2) You don't, you can just pass incrementCount without the calling brackets.
snxxwyy
snxxwyyOP3mo ago
With the second one, why is that the case? I assumed that would make it look for a variable with the name incrementCount? I thought you had to have the brackets to call the function?
Jochem
Jochem3mo ago
a function is also a reference in javascript, so you can pass it to other functions. The brackets are necessary to call the function, but in case of addEventListener and other functions that take callbacks as a parameter, you're not actually calling the callback, you're just passing it in to be called under certain circumstances (when an event fires, when an action fails or succeeds, for each array element from another parameter, stuff like that) so you also cannot have a function called incrementCount and then also have a variable with the name incrementCount in the same scope
snxxwyy
snxxwyyOP3mo ago
Ahh I see. Thank you
ἔρως
ἔρως3mo ago
1- because it sucks! and it's not just because of what jochem said it actually sucks really bad if you set an onclick in html, and an onclick in javascript, it will overwrite the onclick in html and if you need multiple event listeners, as it happens sometimes, using addEventListener will also overwrite the onclick unless it is in very very very specific situations, you should avoid using onclick and similar event handlers like the plague
snxxwyy
snxxwyyOP3mo ago
Ah okay I see, in what specific situations would you use onclick?
ἔρως
ἔρως3mo ago
none but, for example, onload can be super super super useful for scripts and images and other dynamically loaded media
tlcheung
tlcheung3mo ago
I think it's because onclick is for the computer mouse but if the user is using a tab function (accessiblity) or another device like a phone or tablet there is no "click"
ἔρως
ἔρως3mo ago
the click is emulated if you press space that's not the reason why
snxxwyy
snxxwyyOP3mo ago
oh that's fair enough then, thanks quickly going back to my second question. Jochem said i can pass the function without the brackets, but what do the brackets do that make the result not go as expected?
ἔρως
ἔρως3mo ago
he said "calling brackets" when he meant "parenthesis", as there is no such thing as "calling brackets" {} <-- these are brackets () <-- these are parenthesys but to answer the question, there are the following variants that you could write: - incrementButton.addEventListener("click", () => incrementCount()) <-- you're passing an arrow function that then calls the function incrementCount - incrementButton.addEventListener("click", incrementCount()) <-- you're calling the function incrementCount (notice the parenthesis) and then the returned value is being used as the callback value - incrementButton.addEventListener("click", incrementCount) <-- you're passing the function incrementCount as the callback value these are the differences between both: - the 1st and 3rd will execute incrementCount only when the event is triggered - the 2nd one will execute incrementCount before the event is triggered, as the callback value is the return value from incrementCount
snxxwyy
snxxwyyOP3mo ago
ah okay that makes sense. thank you for the info
Chris Bolson
Chris Bolson3mo ago
In Jochems defence he might have meant to type "curly" brackets
ἔρως
ἔρως3mo ago
curly brackets are brackets {} <-- these
Chris Bolson
Chris Bolson3mo ago
yes, I am just trying to justify why he typed "calling". Either a typo or an autocorrect.
ἔρως
ἔρως3mo ago
curly braces can be another name that people use yes it happens you're welcome
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