Filament Jam with 10kg spool

Hi, so I'm doing some larger prints right now on a Vcore-4 500mm and thought using 10kg PETG spools would make things easier. Turns out I'm suddenly getting filament jams and I think they are related to the large spool being ... well heavy. I have the Orbiter 2 Smart Sensor but it gives too many false positives to be useful for the large 10kg spool. I'm using this spool holder: https://www.printables.com/model/451252-heavy-spool-holder-025-up-to-10kg with the same setup as the pictures. Does anyone have some advice how to fix the filament jams? I know that the orbiter 2 should be able to pull the spool and it does for the most time, but after a couple of hours i always get failed prints because no filament is being extruded anymore. And I only have this problem with the large 10kg spool. Should I use a second orbiter as feeder?
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7 Replies
TheTik
TheTik3mo ago
yeah, thats a semi-common issue. Look at the Belay for ideas?
dfos
dfos2mo ago
Yeah, I would just add another extruder, bowden style. Just grab a spare stepper motor if you have one laying around. And like @TheTik said, use a extruder sync sensor like the Belay (this is optional, I have my printer without one and have no issues)
jupfi
jupfiOP3w ago
Okidoki - perfect thanks! So just in case someone else runs into the same issue: I used a second Orbiter as feeder. However this still had some desyncing for long prints(>10h) and a loop was slowly starting to form. Did not find a fix for this issue so I installed the Belay between the two orbiters as recommended by @TheTik. Works like a charm now!
Mike-Toro3D
Mike-Toro3D3w ago
What is a belay?
Helge Keck
Helge Keck3w ago
a filament sensor from annex that can be used to trigger a secondary extruder
Helge Keck
Helge Keck3w ago
GitHub
GitHub - Annex-Engineering/Belay: A sensor for FFF 3D printers for ...
A sensor for FFF 3D printers for keeping a secondary extruder in sync with the primary extruder, with an accompanying Klipper module - Annex-Engineering/Belay
Mike-Toro3D
Mike-Toro3D3w ago
Thank you 👍
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