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mfad2w ago
ctrlz

what is the difference between chinos and fatigues?

genuinely asking because googling this question didn't help
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raisinpie
raisinpie2w ago
simplest version is fatigues have patch pockets and chinos dont
rej
rej2w ago
fatigues have the square pockets in the front, and flap pockets in the back chinos have hidden slot style pockets.
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ctrlz
ctrlz2w ago
thank you for the responses. is there usually a difference between their design or fabric? why would there be a very similar type of pants but with square and flap pockets? im guessing it's related to the history of both pants
rej
rej2w ago
yea, they developed at different places for different purposes vastly paraphrasing, but chinos were officers pants and fatigues were worn by enlisted folk
ctrlz
ctrlz2w ago
is there a place or a book where I can read more about this?
rej
rej2w ago
i'd think the wikipedia pages would outline the history pretty well. not sure of any books per se from the fashion perspective on them
Digs
Digs2w ago
There are lots of resources online where you can find more specific info on makes and models of military uniform items. I dont have a book recommendation but just searching the model you are looking at will tell you alot Fatigue pants are meant as a work uniform item and will be made of a material intended for field use. Chinos are more of a dress/service uniform purpose and will prioritize a clean appearance over function
raisinpie
raisinpie2w ago
Heddels has some articles about clothing history. They don't go into crazy depth but they're good reads
Digs
Digs2w ago
For example ww2 fatigues were made of herring bone twill (generally) due to its ruggedness and cut resistance. As we moved to korea and vietnam we transitioned to a cotton sateen and then to cotton ripstop for its lightweight and durability Chinos are a cotton twill and have essentially remained unchanged since their inception other than maybe cut.
ctrlz
ctrlz2w ago
thank you all for the responses this is really interesting, is there a difference in how the different fabrics can be interpreted nowadays? (i'm not sure how to phrase this, other than practical use for different environments, do the different fabrics look the same or do they fit in different outfits nowadays? or is it the design that changed?) sorry for asking too much lol im really interested in it
Digs
Digs2w ago
Yah so utility uniforms very from service to service and from conflict to conflict and are often tailored to specific needs of the service person. Their design and function are often adapted to the conflict they are associated with and changed based on new technology or requirements of the service person Late vietnam is a great example of major transition where camo patterns were becoming more widely used in combat roles and things like cargo pockets were being added to pants and blouses We moved to a cotton ripstop material as well since it was hot weather environment and ripstop would allow you to keep the material very thin while maintaining a high level of durability The cut and style of uniforms has remained nearly unchanged since vietnam with most changes consisting of camo changes and things like pocket shape and position Most utility uniforms are essentially developed from standard workwear of the time, many early utility uniforms in the early 20th century were literally just denim pants and a denim jacket or popover, ww2 is where we really see a change towards the more recognized olive drab coloration and a move to more combat specific features
ctrlz
ctrlz2w ago
thank you for the answer!!
Digs
Digs2w ago
I should say this is based off of the american development of uniforms and other countries have gone through varying levels of development at different eras for different purposes
ctrlz
ctrlz2w ago
yeah, it also explains why the uniform in my country hasn't changed since its inception and in other armies as well I guess, conflicts stayed around the same area so a complete redesign might not have been needed
Digs
Digs2w ago
Where are you from if you dont mind saying?
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