Railway•2mo ago

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How much is fast railway to deliver images does it use cdn or something, i mean is it a good idea to store data in the persistent volume ?

Solution:

finally made it work but under /cdn/ folder next the main domain and not as a subdomain

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Percy•2mo ago

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Mirsa•2mo ago

N/A

Fragly•2mo ago

Railway doesn't have a CDN, you'll need to have your own CDN layer It's not that slow though, I'm in South Africa and most of my deployments is in US-West and I haven't felt the need to add a CDN layer

Mirsa•2mo ago

right but the volume is still limited to 5gb right ?

Fragly•2mo ago

Oh yea, on hobby plan it's limited to 5GB You can increase it to 250GB on pro plan though

Mirsa•2mo ago

oh nice, by the way the pro plan the price is fixed to 25 bucks a month or it's only for the additonal usage ?

Fragly•2mo ago

pro plan is a fixed price of 20 bucks per person in the team plus additional resource usage

Mirsa•2mo ago

ok so you pay even if your not using 20 bucks of bandwich/resource value ?

Adam•2mo ago

just want to note, a single volume is 5gb on hobby, up to 50 on pro so you could have multiple volumes if needed, they just have to be on different services

Mirsa•2mo ago

so 50gb not 250

Adam•2mo ago

where are you seeing 250?

Fragly•2mo ago

the default is 50GB, it can be increased to 250GB

Mirsa•2mo ago

Fragly was saying maybe i'm not understanding well

Fragly•2mo ago

it was updated recently i believe

Mirsa•2mo ago

all right so the bandwith is fast enough and stuff to not even need a cdn tho ?

Fragly•2mo ago

yea, 20 usd per person you have on your railway project and then you also pay for resource usage seperately

Mirsa•2mo ago

i think i'll start hosting on hobby and when my app will grow and need more i'll pass to pro

Fragly•2mo ago

For me personally I never bother adding a CDN but it'd depend on your project's requirements and scale Sounds good 🙂

Mirsa•2mo ago

by the way i have something that seems not existing anymore the "credits" based plan

Mirsa•2mo ago

Fragly•2mo ago

The credits based plan does still exist it just can't be used as an option on pro plan accounts

Mirsa•2mo ago

oh yeah thats what i was gonna ask, so yeah your still locked to the base hobby plan even if you have enough of credits

Fragly•2mo ago

yea, it's worth noting though that when you get pro plan it'll be seperate from your hobby plan so it's not like you upgrade your hobby plan to turn into a pro plan, you just purchase a pro plan here's what that'd look like:

Fragly•2mo ago

Here you can see a hobby (personal) plan and a pro (team) plan

Mirsa•2mo ago

ok so like on vercel yeah

Fragly•2mo ago

yea

Mirsa•2mo ago

Okey then, one last question if you don't mind Do you know any good self hostable service similar to cloudinary (api based hosting assets images, video only needed) with image transform (bluring, resizing) ?

Fragly•2mo ago

I've heard good things about imagekit (never used it before though), you could check that out

Mirsa•2mo ago

okey, i need something that is plug and play with railway template, and capable of hosting images on the direct volume i'll check that out

Brody•2mo ago

for future reference, we can transfer credits from your hobby to pro workspace after you create the pro workspace

Mirsa•2mo ago

thats cool, ty brody @Fragly Thanks for the help thats very sweet from both of you have a great day 😄 !

Fragly•2mo ago

Happy to help, you too 🙂

Mirsa•2mo ago

Sorry, i have a question concerning volume. So i've created a volume with mount path -> /assets So i suppose i can now use it directly like a path static folder so

const ASSETS_PATH = "/assets";

const ASSETS_PATH = "/assets";

and await writeFile to the path. Is it right ? So now i'd like to give those images a subdomain so with nginx i'd probably do a server_name and location root.. The goal is to access the images by going on assets.website.com/images.png But here how can i do that ?

Brody•2mo ago

you've answered your own question! you are correct in the first question and the second question, yep that's how you'd write to the volume and nginx or similar is how you'd serve files.

Mirsa•2mo ago

Isn’t there easier way to do that with cloudflare prixing ? And i've installed nginx in railway. So what i suppose again is that i create a nginx.conf file in my project root folder ?

Mirsa•2mo ago

Yeah but no, i just found this answer from Brody, -> https://help.railway.app/questions/nixpacks-staticfile-provider-configure-n-f0cd2327 Brody - "Railway does not provide a way to provide an nginx.conf file for the staticfile provider. instead, have railway build your app and then serve it with caddy, example here". Yeah here i'm lost never head of that...

Railway Help Station

Nixpacks Staticfile provider configure NGINX for SPA

My project is a React Vite app with React Router. Railway gets just static file, built by my GitLab CI. They get recognized as the Nixpacks Staticfile type when I deploy them on Railway. Now, how can I add an Nginx config that only adds SPA support. Meaning, all requests should be redirected to /index.html. This is the only configuration I ...

Mirsa•2mo ago

Project ID : 37fc7b13-e02a-498b-8b9e-6d266d1ccf97 So i've tried Caddyfile + nixpacks deploys are fine but app not accessible 502 bad gateway

{
    admin off
    auto_https off # Disable automatic HTTPS as Cloudflare handles it
}

baryum.co {
    tls {
        protocols tls1.2 tls1.3
    }
    reverse_proxy localhost:3000
}

assets.baryum.co {
    tls {
        protocols tls1.2 tls1.3
    }
    root * /assets
    file_server
}

{
    admin off
    auto_https off # Disable automatic HTTPS as Cloudflare handles it
}

baryum.co {
    tls {
        protocols tls1.2 tls1.3
    }
    reverse_proxy localhost:3000
}

assets.baryum.co {
    tls {
        protocols tls1.2 tls1.3
    }
    root * /assets
    file_server
}

Idk what is causing the issue, Public Networking tab seems to be correct and cloudflare looks ok aswell... ok tried everything out with caddyfile so i'm leaving that there i'm finnaly trying this example https://railway.app/template/o3MbZe But still experiencing issues with nginx file not seems to be applied anyway i give up nothing works...

Brody•2mo ago

you were close, but you used domains instead of listening on the PORT environment variable. either way, nginx or caddy, doesn't provide you with a way to put media onto the service. if this is all new to you, it might be better to stick with something like cloudinary

Mirsa•2mo ago

either way, nginx or caddy, doesn't provide you with a way to put media onto the service. I made an endpoint on my sveltekit app that will upload the assets to the volume. i used your create react app example for caddy & nixpack but getting 404 or 502...

Brody•2mo ago

you can not attach a single volume to multiple services, so whatever volume you are uploading files to is not the same volume you have hooked up to caddy/nginx

Mirsa•2mo ago

so it is not possible to have a volume on my service with the caddy in the frontend service and attach it to assets in volume ??

Brody•2mo ago

not at the same time, no

Mirsa•2mo ago

oh :/ There is basically no way then to have a subdomain on the volume while being capable of passing data to it from the frontend ? No way, even with another service/template anything ?

Brody•2mo ago

oh there definitely is, just not with what you have setup

Mirsa•2mo ago

oh well i still need to keep my endpoints and api in my frontend sveltekit app, and if i can use the volume to store persistent data that fit my needs How can i do that ?

Brody•2mo ago

I don't think i understand the question, you simply read and write files to the volume at its mount point

Mirsa•2mo ago

yup, but from what i've understood i need nginx or caddy to be able to rewrite the path to make the subdomain pointing the assets folder

Brody•2mo ago

why do you need an assets subdomain?

Mirsa•2mo ago

since cloudinary isn't not cheap at all for custom domain and usage, i want to keep having good looking urls from my custom domain like ppl have with cdn, images or stuff

Brody•2mo ago

then just add assets.domain.com to your railway service

Mirsa•2mo ago

as custom domain ?

Brody•2mo ago

yes

Mirsa•2mo ago

i did but it serves the app like the main domain does, and it doesn't serve images like assets.domain.com/image.png

Brody•2mo ago

1. you need to write the code to not serve your main app on that domain. 2. you need to write the code to serve your assets on that subdomain.

Mirsa•2mo ago

oh rly after many search i've not found anything explaining that

Brody•2mo ago

just write the code to do it

Mirsa•2mo ago

i'll do some search to discover more on the subject but here now idk where to start, never knew we could do that from the frontend side

Brody•2mo ago

did you say you were using sveletkit?

Mirsa•2mo ago

yup

Brody•2mo ago

I assume you are using it in CSR mode?

Mirsa•2mo ago

had to disable it

Brody•2mo ago

why? you would need to be using the node adapter for what you want to achieve

Mirsa•2mo ago

i manage my website content from a chrome web extensions and i need to pass requests from the browser to access the endpoint

Brody•2mo ago

huh are you using the node adapter

Mirsa•2mo ago

yup automated everything in the browser one click and it's resize + screenshot the website then a form is filled and if submitted it goes on my endpoint secured by api key yes sir

Brody•2mo ago

okay then accessing the volume and doing the hostname checks, serving the files, etc, are all going to be done server side

Mirsa•2mo ago

yes always

Brody•2mo ago

okay then I'm not sure why you mentioned client side

Mirsa•2mo ago

i'm unsure but maybe i don't completely understand everything note-adapter is just an adapter to build the code and stuff not providing a complete standalone backend service like express ?

Brody•2mo ago

it enables you to write server side code vs. a client side website

Mirsa•2mo ago

yup exactly why i use sveltekit with SSR instead of static adapter

Brody•2mo ago

then it sounds like you understand what you need to be doing, just don't overthink!

Mirsa•2mo ago

then yeah i'm missing some knowledge then if i can do all of that from node-adapter

Brody•2mo ago

you write the code to do what you want to do

Mirsa•2mo ago

yeah 🤣 thats my main issue i do overthink everything always

Brody•2mo ago

just start typing

Mirsa•2mo ago

sometimes for lack of knowledge

Brody•2mo ago

nah you got this, first things first, create a server side route that returns the given media file

Mirsa•2mo ago

👌 fine ty brody

Mirsa•2mo ago

You are right i've never tried this part of svelteit docs https://kit.svelte.dev/docs/adapter-node#custom-server

SvelteKit docs

Node servers • SvelteKit documentation

Brody•2mo ago

you don't need a custom server to read files off the volume, but you would likely need it to do the assets subdomain redirection stuff

Mirsa•2mo ago

yes thats why i created my server.js to rediction concenrant the read files off the volume i still don't know how to do that but i'll do my search

Brody•2mo ago

at that point it's just writing JavaScript, easy enough, you got it!

Mirsa•2mo ago

So i can access the volume data, as simple as going to a direct folder like express.static(path.join(__dirname, "/assets"))(req, res, next); right ?

Brody•2mo ago

correct

Mirsa•2mo ago

one thing, now i have to create a subdomain at cloudflare do i have to add it also in railway ?

Brody•2mo ago

yes

Mirsa•2mo ago

so it's limited to 2 custom domains i have to remove www ?

Brody•2mo ago

you first need to add it to railway, and then cloudflare though correct, hobby is limited to two

Mirsa•2mo ago

yup but by doing this arn't we saying that we want our app to run like "main domain name" to the subdomain ? mhhh actually this works tho so i guess it's not

Brody•2mo ago

no lol

Mirsa•2mo ago

Ok the subdomain works but image delivery looks not

Brody•2mo ago

you need to write the code for that

Mirsa•2mo ago

i did

// Subdomain middleware
app.use((req, res, next) => {
    const host = req.hostname;
    if (host.startsWith("cdn.")) {
        // Check if a specific file is requested
        if (req.url === "/" || req.url === "") {
            // No specific file requested, redirect to error page
            return res.status(404).send("Error: No file specified");
        }
        // Serve static files from the /assets directory
        express.static(path.join(__dirname, "/assets"))(req, res, (err) => {
            if (err) {
                // If file not found, send a 404 error
                res.status(404).send("Error: File not found");
            }
        });
    } else {
        next();
    }
});

// Subdomain middleware
app.use((req, res, next) => {
    const host = req.hostname;
    if (host.startsWith("cdn.")) {
        // Check if a specific file is requested
        if (req.url === "/" || req.url === "") {
            // No specific file requested, redirect to error page
            return res.status(404).send("Error: No file specified");
        }
        // Serve static files from the /assets directory
        express.static(path.join(__dirname, "/assets"))(req, res, (err) => {
            if (err) {
                // If file not found, send a 404 error
                res.status(404).send("Error: File not found");
            }
        });
    } else {
        next();
    }
});

Maybe an issue witht the endpoint image location ?

Brody•2mo ago

doesnt look like valid code to me

Mirsa•2mo ago

in test env that works even when launched in production localhost

Brody•2mo ago

how do you know there are images in the volume

Mirsa•2mo ago

actually idk by passing it through my endpoint it return "message": "Images processed and saved successfully", with the url but idk how to actually verify since there is no terminal to access

Brody•2mo ago

how do you know you are saving to the correct location

Mirsa•2mo ago

i suppose from your previous answer, when i asked if by doing await writeFile(path.join(ASSETS_PATH, filename1), image1); it'll write the file to the volume location and folder /assets

Mirsa•2mo ago

reading this https://www.answeroverflow.com/m/1168623790020886578 "By default, the storage location is set to the storage subdirectory in the root of the volume, but by setting a service variable USE_VOLUME_ROOT to 1 you can opt to use the root of the volume as the storage location instead"

Accessing volume for file upload - Railway

Hello, I'm trying to upload files to my volume to use the files within flowise. I have attached a volume to my service and I have the mount path. I just cant find anything in the docs - examples or such things - on how to access this mount path properly. Maybe somebody could point me in the right direction here?
I have read throug...

Brody•2mo ago

what does that have to do with the volume on the sveltekit service though?

Mirsa•2mo ago

oh i was thinking maybe when i upload my file it's uploading it in the root folder instead of going on the volume ?? maybe i misunderstood

Brody•2mo ago

you did, that is specific to the filebrowser service

Mirsa•2mo ago

meh ok so won't help me tho Ok tried with

app.use("/assets", express.static(path.join(__dirname, "assets")));

app.get("/:file", (req, res) => {
    const file = req.params.file;
    res.sendFile(path.join(__dirname, "assets", file));
});

app.use("/assets", express.static(path.join(__dirname, "assets")));

app.get("/:file", (req, res) => {
    const file = req.params.file;
    res.sendFile(path.join(__dirname, "assets", file));
});

But no success

Brody•2mo ago

for future reference "no success" is not very helpful

Mirsa•2mo ago

yeah sorry, i mean after upload success by endpoint i get url "https://cdn.baryum.co/download_1725812650425_800x500.png", But it's not accessible

Brody•2mo ago

it's not accessible is also not helpful, as that's a very vague term

Mirsa•2mo ago

basically idk how i can verify if data is written on volume there is no more information on dashboard so hard to say i still can't figure out if it's a url/middleware problem or path/location

Brody•2mo ago

there's metrics on disk usage

Mirsa•2mo ago

yeah stuff seems to be written, where, when and more idk so i can only suppose that yes stuff is being stored so there is a problem in my middle, the way i am retrieving those assets

Mirsa•2mo ago

😄 still not found out but i won't give up

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Mirsa•2mo ago

finally made it work but under /cdn/ folder next the main domain and not as a subdomain

Brody•2mo ago

awesome!

Mirsa•2mo ago

after 495 commits it works

Mirsa•2mo ago

https://cdn.baryum.co/download_1725815913137_800x500.png

Mirsa•2mo ago

i think i'm gonna change the way i upload imgs cuz csrf is kinda bad to be disabled. I still can upload those by base64 raw in the json payload @Brody Ty for your help this can be closed

Brody•2mo ago

sounds good!

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