Server Lag (CPU and RAM fine, TPS falls)
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What's going on?
1. shitty cpu, you should change.
2. switch to ZNPCsPlus (latest dev build). Citizens is laggy AF. ZNPcsPlus has a migrator too
3. the 159 vindicators are arguably the laggiest mob on your server
4. I would recommend you move to 1.20.4 and use Pufferfish as it is more performant than Paper (all paper plugins work on puffer)
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ProtocolLib is rather laggy so i'd recommend you try find alternative plugin(s) that doesn't use PLib as a dependency
are you sure its nothing to do with my chunk settings? :catThink:
?
I drop from 20tps to 10tps in one huge spike and I'm not sure why
I don't even do anything yet, It wouldn't make sense
I just kileld all vindicators and I'm not that near any NPCs
every time I move into new chunks my tps drops from 20 to 9
Every time I load into another world everything dies for a minute
I get really random tps spikes
Sounds like your cpu being awful (not surprised, that cpu sucks for mc) and/or a drive issue
Just to add to the above, the profiler was only running for 13 seconds:
So it's not super useful in determining what the usual baseline for the server is before it lags
And what changed when it is lagging.
Provide a longer running profile if you'd like more details
But basically what Skullians said, the processor you're using has very poor single threaded performance, and there is nothing that clearly stands out aside from the poor garbage collection times.
You can try @Jared | InfraCharm 's site https://flags.infracharm.com/ to help with the garbage collection
But I'm unsure how finished it is
It's not done yet
doesn't work
Ah, there's that answer π
^^ what silent said
One of the previous sparks that lasted longer (that you provided in a previous thread) did show that citizens is still causing a LOT of lag at 20% thread usage
so you should really focus on upgrading your CPU (preferably AWAY from contabo) and migrating to ZNPCsPlus
Skull get me their gc.log and an upgraded spark report and startup flags
Their GC can be optimized, might help
your GC isn't ideal though
yeah
will do, will ping you once done
If you want a hand with it, feel free to shout, me and I'm sure @Snow Kit would be happy to help, seems like a useful resource to have.
@jacob When you get the chance:
add
-Xlog:gc*:file=gc.log:time,tags:filecount=5,filesize=10M to your startup flags (anywhere before the -jar at the end).
Restart your server.
Run a spark profiler (through /spark profiler start) and let it run for ~15 minutes
After 15 minutes, stop the profiler, send the spark here, and also send the file name gc.log in your server folder hereIt's more just setting up the algorithms and such. Might need help with making an API
π feel free to poke us if you do need/want a hand
why does this default to 65gb container memory LOL
oops ping
sorry
1/2 of 128 π
lol
my server uses 32 threads and 128gb ram!!
At what point do you add a big red banner and just say "don't do this"
when they send you a dm asking why you can't set server memory to 1024gb
:dawg:
swap
:doom_wojak:
I've never looked at gc logs before tbh, but how does it (theoretically) know how to make the flags from that log file?
You can see the time it takes for GC to act, how long it's paused for, heap sizes -etc
interesting :thinkies:
so essentially it's just knowing how to read gc logs and knowing how to tweak certain flags?
so we make chatgpt do it for us
mhm
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fk off
interesting
:LUL:
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1.20.2. Latest currently is 1.21.1.β chunk-gc.period-in-ticks
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Recommended: 400.
β entity-activation-range.animals
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Recommended: 16.
β entity-activation-range.monsters
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β entity-activation-range.misc
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β entity-activation-range.water
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β entity-activation-range.villagers
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β entity-activation-range.wake-up-inactive.villagers-for
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β entity-activation-range.wake-up-inactive.flying-monsters-for
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β entity-activation-range.wake-up-inactive.villagers-max-per-tick
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β entity-activation-range.wake-up-inactive.animals-for
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contabo
π
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gc.log
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@Jared | InfraCharm
thanks
np
Hopefully the garbage collection does help, as when your tps drops below 20, your ticks are still only taking around ~25ms
my tps is 11 :(
wouldnt be surprised if its because of oversold hardware
its contabo
Yeah...
Though you'd expect/hope that to at least appear in the timings
interesting
23% being used on just mythicmobs and disguises
If you change it to time per tick, it gets more sus
The entire tick on the laggiest spike was 25ms total
So that should be a perfect 20tps, with 25ms free
what does that mean? why is my tps falling then? :catThink:
i might have some weird chunk loading settings?
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here's my paper files
overloaded cpu, can cause it
which makes sense
ive narrowed it down to 2 plugins :guninmouth:
which ones
its citizens :P
The two red blobs I added is all that Citizens is adding to your laggiest ticks:
(the width is what matters)
... literally what i said at the start, in two separate threads
As what was said by Pro earlier, more is being used by disguises than citizens
maybe its not directly citizens? maybe some citizens hook? idk :ccshrug:
all i know is when i remove citizens it doesnt drop below 19
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Your server isn't lagging
Your server is running fine with an average TPS of 19.
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this is a new one
That report ran for a total of 1 minute
And disguises is not on the report at all
So whatever uses MMOlib/MythicLib is no longer loaded?
Aka MythicMobs
Oh, when I removed disguises, it still lagged a lot
huh?
Still loaded, just using a bunch less resources
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:uncanny:
But yeah, even excluding citizens, every other plugin was also using way less resources in the 2nd report:
So unless there was some sort of interaction between Citizens and the other plugins, I'd expect the lag to be back.
the new one was 1 minute and 32 seconds long + thats another issue with overloaded hardware, even bad performance isnt stable
Yeah
Was nowhere long enough to be respective
Seems like Citizens <-> MythicMobs integration
Seems like MythicalMobs can act as NPCs anyway (never used it), so unsure why you'd need both anyway
I think MythicMobs require LibsDisguises that requires ProtocolLib
(for NPCs)
They still have all 3, all they removed was citizens
I remember ajLeaderboards loving to make alot of random tasks
ajleaderboards makes a shit ton of threads iirc
Like one time I've had 7k+ tasks from just ajLeaderboards
You should consider using Topper jacob
https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/topper.101325/
Best plugin that i've used ngl
@jacob @Skullians
If a flag does not allow your server to start, remove the flag and let me know which one it was so we can substitute it.
Send me a new gc.log and spark report in 60 minutes
I decided to just upgrade my server in hopes that fixes it, thanks