SK
Signal Kβ€’2mo ago
Mastiff

Is it possible to get maps in an easier way than MapBox?

I tried to make a small map of my area at the tip of Norway, from Kristiansand to Lyngdal (which is as far as I can imagine going even when I retire in a few years) on MapBox, but I gotta admit that I gave up. The learning curve is steep. I wanted to use TukTuk in SignalK to have an extra, fully offline map available on the phone/tablet in addition to the one on the Garmin 720 in the (open) wheelhouse, to know exactly where the depth changes are when setting crawfish and crab pots. But is there a simpler way to get what I need than MapBox?
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PaddyB
PaddyBβ€’2mo ago
you could try opencpn & download mbtiles with sasplanet. On android only though. Sasplanet has navionics and satellite images which it can save in a format opencpn can read. Sat images are great!! 😎
Mastiff
Mastiffβ€’2mo ago
Thanks, but I'm not looking for something to work only one device. I need it on the SignalK server, so it's accessable on all my devices, which includes a Windows Surface tablet/laptop.
Ba2
Ba2β€’2mo ago
You can create mbtiles using sasplanet and use the mbtiles using signalk/freeboard possibly will work with tuktuk as well. It is a nice solution especially if you interested in a map for a small region
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You should not use the SAS.Planet... Three steps: 1) Install GaladrielCache on your signalk computer 2) Configure charts-plugin to use GaladrielCache 3) Explore your region on the map via TukTuk (or freeboard-sk or GaladrielMapSK) After some time you will have the required map for off-line use.
Mastiff
Mastiffβ€’2mo ago
@Ba2 The tiles work for Tuktuk as well, yeah. The reason I want to use that is that I liked the way it showed overlays fit me better. @Π’Π»Π°Π΄ΠΈΠΌΠΈΡ€ ΠšΠ°Π»Π°Ρ‡ΠΈΡ…ΠΈΠ½ Thanks! I'll have a look at that. I will do a full image backup of the Pi first, and then install it. Maybe I can find the cahce too and save that on my SSD. Having looked at it now I'm afraid that is a bit over my level, I don't understand how to install and use it.
Mastiff
Mastiffβ€’2mo ago
Thanks! I need to find out how to install php and Apache, I have never used anything like that.
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apt install apache2 php πŸ™‚ But need PHP7, not PHP8.
Mastiff
Mastiffβ€’2mo ago
Thanks! I'll try! I think I have set it up according to the instructions (except for the TOR connection, which I don't have, I don't think I need that since I won't be using AIS), but I get "The requested URL not found", It's probably me being thick, I have tried with http://127.0.0.0/galadriel-map, http://127.0.0.0/galadrielmap and http://127.0.0.0/map but none of these work.
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If you are on the same computer, then: http://127.0.0.1/map/ It is a GaladrielMap chartplotter.
Mastiff
Mastiffβ€’2mo ago
Fantastic, thank you very much! It works! Now the final question, where do I find the cached map tiles? I looked around, but didn't see anything. I have not made a special card for it, so there is nothing as sdb1 at the moment. Do I need to use that, or will the map tiles end up another place?
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/GaladrielMap/tileproxy/tiles/ but if you want to configure Signal K Charts plugin for use this cache, you must create 'Online chart provider' and set URL to http://127.0.0.1/tileproxy/tiles.php?z={z}&x={x}&y={y}&r=OpenTopoMap for OpenTopo, for example. Then all features of the GaladrielCache will be available from any SignalK chartplotter.
Mastiff
Mastiffβ€’2mo ago
Great, thanks again! I see that loading the maps is very slow, especially the NAIS Norwegian that I would like to use. But I'll just let it go until it's down.
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This may be a mass download ban. I haven't checked. To overcome - you need TOR πŸ™‚ BTW, for Navionics you must get a fresh /GaladrielMap/tileproxy/mapsources/ files from fresh zip.
Mastiff
Mastiffβ€’2mo ago
Thanks, but I don't need Navionics, I am good with the Norwegian maps, those are the ones I'm used to. And I do have a NordVPN account. Maybe that will help? πŸ€” I think I'm going to set up a virtual Debian on my server and run it from there to see if that helps. πŸ‘ It didn't, so now I have installed Tor. I just need to find out how I connect to it. This is something I've never used before. And using the file that came with Galadriel-map, it says "Tor quit during startup". I have added the data lines from the torrc file that was created by the system at the top of the file in the zip, but nothing. Sorry if I'm stupid, but I just can't get it working. Also how can I see in GaladrielMap that it's going via Tor? Or do I do that by using the Tor browser to connect to Galadriel Map?
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