why do shaders on optifine perform better than on iris on my system?

the same thing happens with: - different shaders (sometimes I get up to 30 more fps on optifine than I do on iris) - different versions - different worlds - different number of other performance mods (or none) - different cpus (this has happened so far on both my old i5 9600k and my current r7 5700x. gpu is a 3070 with the latest 560.70 drivers) - different nvidia drivers - different windows installs I've used almost the exact same settings on both iris and optifine, and I say almost because optifine and sodium have very different settings options
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Solution:
Some person in the Distant Horizons Discord server proved that Optifine draws less shadows than Iris. Since shadows are the most performance heavy effects, cutting it short will have significant performance uplift. That's likely what Optifine did to achieve this performance boost.
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That Guy
That Guy5mo ago
Are you using sodium?
lLorion
lLorionOP5mo ago
yes
samalando (ping on please)
We don’t know why as optifine is closed source
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hardester
hardester5mo ago
Some person in the Distant Horizons Discord server proved that Optifine draws less shadows than Iris. Since shadows are the most performance heavy effects, cutting it short will have significant performance uplift. That's likely what Optifine did to achieve this performance boost.
hardester
hardester5mo ago
To try and rule that out, disable shadow on both Optifine and Iris then compare the performance again.
lLorion
lLorionOP5mo ago
alright it seems I can only do that with some shaders, so I'm gonna compapre nostalgia this time before I was using seus ptgi hrr 2.1
lLorion
lLorionOP5mo ago
optifine has all this too
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lLorion
lLorionOP5mo ago
ok so with iris I turned down the shadow distance to 7 and kept optifine the same
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lLorion
lLorionOP5mo ago
it just sucks that I can only do this with some shaders as for completely turning off shadows, I can't find any setting to do that in optifine but if I do it with iris still using nostalgia, I get 128 fps. the game just looks horrendous if I do
motyl
motyl5mo ago
someone correct me if im wrong, but isnt seus ptgi one of the only shaders that works better on optifine?
lLorion
lLorionOP5mo ago
it seems like it yeah probably because they're quite old
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