Minecraft server hosting service
Hi,
I want to start a Minecraft survival server with friends, running fabric with some slight server-side modifications (like carpet mod).
We have been using free hosting services like Aternos and Falix Nodes in past servers and it is just not enough. Performance is terrible, as expected.
That's why I'm creating this post. I need help choosing a hosting service. We require something that fits this conditions:
- The server will have around 5 active members and 10 total members, which most of the times only 3 people will be online at once, maybe more, and sometimes bot players (this is an estimation based on past servers).
- There will be farms running on the server, some might be very resource intensive and capable of generating thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of items per hour.
- Be able to comfortably run at 16 render distance.
My budget is around 10 euros a month.
Currently I'm testing, in a creative world, Hetzner's CX32 plan (8 euros a month), which has 8GB of RAM and 4 VCPUs. The Minecraft server is running with 6GB of RAM. Performance mods, like lithium, are installed.
I've been messing around with it and it's already much better than free hosting services, but it still seems to not have the greatest performance. Chunk generation could be faster, I have been flying forward with an elytra with a friend and sometimes it can't keep up. When running farms like nash's stacking raid farm the MSPT goes up to like 45, which I believe shouldn't.
I've been told that I do not need 6GB of RAM for this conditions and that the CPU from this Hetzner plan ins't very good, that there are alternatives with better value for the money. I got recommended Pebblehost's Minecraft premium plan with 4GB of RAM.
I would like to hear your guys opinions and recommendations. Sorry if I did not provide enough information, tell me if you need more. Feel free to ping me.
Thanks!
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Requested by fliplus#0
should always pregen
!pregen
well, pregen with chunky
I have not tested this Hetzner plan in a real situation (actual survival server). So I don't know how it would behave
Pregenerating chunks would only make the area around spawn not really a problem. Also it would only affect the start of the server.
why would it only affect the start of the server?
generating new chunks produces a lot of lag even on beefy servers
"around spawn"
if 10k out in each direction is around spawn (10k is what is normally recommended)
then sure
uh shouldnt this be redirected to #marketplace ?
Because that area is going to be loaded anyways, isnt it? And it wouldn't fix the generating chunks issue as we will explore places further from 10k blocks
then pregen more than 10k
Oh right... it should, I really did not see that forum category
that only affects the 16x16 chunks around spawn iirc
if spawn is set to always be loaded which is a setting in one of the paper configs i think
I mean, we are loading the area around spawn anyways quickly when exploring at the start
if you don't pregen, your server will lag
so you should pregen
What about space occupied?
not sure what logic you're using here, people are always going to be loading new chunks if your world is bigger than 1kx1k
The logic is creating unexplored chunks
:thonk:
And generating that area wouldn't fix the exploration issue
what are you talking about
pregenerating chunks means the CPU doesn't get taxed while trying to generate it while a bunch of players are online generating new chunks
which lags the server
what does "exploration" have to do with anything
you should always pregenerate
Let's look into this situation:
I create the server, everyone loads the area around spawn at start and gets a place to make a base. Which is what happens on the start of servers. This chunks are now generated, as they would with chunky.
A player decides to travel 30k blocks to find a mesa biome, problem appears again.
hey guess what
Have you ever heard of a worldborder
if u pregend to 20k, now it wont lag until they get passed 20k,
0 -> 20k blocks much less lag
why not pregen?
^^
set a worldborder to stop players from going beyond 20k or whatever
zero reason to not pregen
mhm
yes, if they go past the pregen, lag will pick up.... but guess what. before that much less lag!!! wow!!! 😮
:gaspW:
Generating an area of 20k blocks would take a lot of disk space?
yes, but good thing diskspace costs near nothing
World Size Calculator
Determine the file size of a world before you pregenerate
make sure your nether radius is 1/8th of your overworld pregen
This isn’t completely accurate by the way
Yeah, generating that much isn't an option
then generate 10k lmao
How much disk space do you have???
I think it's around 60GB
I'm unsure
he has, 80 GB
A normal 10k pregen is ~25gb
that’s fine
^
idk why ur against it. You have the space. It'll help out a LOT.
You asked how you can reduce lag. We're telling you byfar the best option do such. and you're just saying nah???
I will move this post to #marketplace, as it is in the wrong category and it is not addressing the main reason I created it.
Also I'm sorry if I am being inconvenient/annoying or if you are not understanding me. It was not my intent.
Thanks for the help. I'll take a look at pregenerating chunks :)
Also uh
You say ‘16 render distance’
I think you miss understood me
what will your sim distance be
Be able to comfortably run at 16 render distance.Also don't ever do this. Use the client side mod bobby
^
I'm not saying no
8 view 6 sim max
10
too high
It's just not adressing the main point
You can run 32 render distance with bobby on a server with a render istance at 8
^
it quite literally is
8 view, 6 sim max as I said
then Bobby or distant horizons on the client
bigger render distance = more things the server has to track = more lag
^^^
I believe 6 simulation distance doesn't even cover the whole despawn sphere
Nor the random tick box
despawn sphere is 8 chunks
so do that if you really need it
10 view 8 sim, or 8 view 8 sim
I'll take a look at it, thanks :)
Server: https://modrinth.com/plugin/farmcontrol
Clients: https://modrinth.com/mod/bobby + sodium suite
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