NMEA 2000 configuration for Yamaha F150 outboards

Hi all, i have an rpi with latest signalk installed and was hoping to read engine data from N2K... I seem to only be getting GPS data... Does this mean that Yamaha uses proprietery PGNs that i would need to configure... At the same time i have an ActiSense W2K-1 installed and i am looking at the logs...The only thing of potential interest is the attached screenshot.. Any ideas?
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krital
kritalOP5mo ago
After some googling i see that these are Address Claimed (PGN 60928), Configuration Information (126998), Product Information (126998) not sure what i need to do next though
Scott Bender
Scott Bender5mo ago
Those won’t be interesting for you I would think that even proprietary pgns would show up, but I’m not sure. In SignalK, go to the Data Browser, at the bottom, see if it is there. It will list all the pgns it sends. Including unrecognized ones.
krital
kritalOP5mo ago
Thanks Scott.. What about the ones it receives? Am i looking at the wrong plugin... I can not see anything that isnt pushed as signalk, although i left now so will confirm tomorrow. However my N2K Lawrance display. can display certain engine parameters, so they must be on the n2k bus.
Scott Bender
Scott Bender5mo ago
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krital
kritalOP5mo ago
Thanks will confirm tomorrow but i believe i didnt see anything other than the navigation keys and the derived data ones
Scott Bender
Scott Bender5mo ago
Look under Sources. The pgns they send will be listed there. Even if sk does not understand them.
Scott Bender
Scott Bender5mo ago
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krital
kritalOP5mo ago
Hi Scott, here is what i could see... Still no engine data or even my Lawrance HDS-8 (which displays engine data)... Any ideas? Could it be that my Lawrance is. connected to some proprietery yamaha interface and not to N2K?
krital
kritalOP5mo ago
Nmea 2000 datasources on mfd
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Scott Bender
Scott Bender5mo ago
So the w2k is not seeing anything Not even your mfd Can you screen grab the Data Connection in sk? And the w2k config page?
krital
kritalOP5mo ago
I have not setup actisense in sk i just uae the can hat on the rpi. I use actisense just to debug why i am not getting the data in signalk
krital
kritalOP5mo ago
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krital
kritalOP5mo ago
This config?
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krital
kritalOP5mo ago
Or this?
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Scott Bender
Scott Bender5mo ago
Oh. Ok I thought you were using the w2k for sk. Isn’t there page on the w2k that shows all the devices on the network?
krital
kritalOP5mo ago
Its unbelievable but no they dont. At least not in the official firmware Is there a canboat or canboatjs equivalent i could run on the rpi?
Teppo Kurki
Teppo Kurki5mo ago
How abount capturing a data file with candump and sharing it here? Easier to look at the raw canbus data than debug over discord.. You can run both canboat and canboatjs on rpi, don’t quite get the ”equivalent” part Have you tried my n2k-debug plugin by chance? Its support for unknown pgns is not complete, but it is supposed to one day be able to help debug n2k stuff
krital
kritalOP5mo ago
Hi Teppo, cheers will try that out tomorrow and report back. The 'equivalent' part was meant to be something equivalent to the device browser that Scott mentioned for Actisense I have not tried the plugin sounds like a good test for it
Scott Bender
Scott Bender5mo ago
I think you may have two separate networks here. Neither the w2k or your hat show up on your mfd device list. And only the w2k is seen by your hat. THe w2k-2 does have a page showing devices
Scott Bender
Scott Bender5mo ago
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Scott Bender
Scott Bender5mo ago
Go to Actisense-I and click on Devices
krital
kritalOP5mo ago
Thanks Scott i seem to have missed that will check again. Unfortunately it does look like 2 networks doesnt it? Will het back to you tomorrow.
krital
kritalOP5mo ago
Hi Teppo, here is my candump file
krital
kritalOP5mo ago
I also installed the n2k-debug app... Dont understand enough to say if its useful
krital
kritalOP5mo ago
Hi Scott, here is the w2k-1 device list
Scott Bender
Scott Bender5mo ago
I’d say that confirms it, the only things in that n2k network is the w2k and Signal K.
krital
kritalOP5mo ago
Right so i need to get back to wiring to figure out why these 2 segments are isolated.. The strange thing is that the rpi is powered of an n2k drop cable.. And i didnt build that n2k network, it was installed by the manufacturer... Any chance the MFD is acting as a terminator for the bus? could that cause the issue?
Scott Bender
Scott Bender5mo ago
Never heard of an mfd with built in termination. But I can’t rule anything out at this point
krital
kritalOP4mo ago
It looks like my problem was wiring related.. I now get all data. Thanks for everyone's help!
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