chemistry - energy or orbital

So p orbiatls are of three types that is px , py and pz right? So when they ask abt the energy comparison example: The energy of px is : 1,Greater than s orbital 2,Equal to s orbital 3,Equal to py and pz orbital 4,Greater than d orbital [all n value same] What is the answer/s ?
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stormycloud
stormycloudOP7mo ago
Energy of orbital* typo sry
loki61
loki617mo ago
1 and 3
Mohit
Mohit7mo ago
The answer is the px orbital will have approximately the same energy level as py and pz orbital since it is just two other ways of representing the same orbital. It definitely has more energy than the s orbital
RDES
RDES7mo ago
Px, Py and Pz are degenerate, if I recall correctly so they have the same energy.
Mohit
Mohit7mo ago
So answer is 1 and 3
RDES
RDES7mo ago
The same goes for all d and f orbitals But the energies are greater than s orbital so, 1 is also correct.
stormycloud
stormycloudOP7mo ago
So when they ask px orbital , can I consider it the same as p orbital? Or would that be incorrect ? Ty Mhm tysm I am confused abt the degenerate and the orbital thing, like is px and p the same thing ? [like is px is just the x axis it is along?]
Deleted User
Deleted User7mo ago
yup you actually are on the right track, they are just characterisation of spatial orientation, otherwise are at same energy values.
iTeachChem
iTeachChem7mo ago
Yes
stormycloud
stormycloudOP7mo ago
Ohh okk, so like when I draw the three boxes for p , it means each of the box is a p orbital and not it as a whole [all three]? Tyy And each box represents p orbital along x y z bc the magnetic qn is diff for each?
RDES
RDES7mo ago
Yes, that's the correct idea. The x or y or z just tells you the orientation on the three dimensional Cartesian plane. The whole is the subshell, not the orbital, yes. @iTeachChem , sir, if I remember correctly, didn't they prove Bohr was correct about his estimation of orbits through Schroedinger's equation? Atomic Structure is rather interesting but I tend to lose track sometimes.
stormycloud
stormycloudOP7mo ago
Oh ok so when I refer to the whole thing it is p subshell and when I refer to one box it is p orbital ?
iTeachChem
iTeachChem7mo ago
righto. the energy formula worked. orbits well that is a bit of a grey area :D swill have to read up, sorta yes
RDES
RDES7mo ago
Yes. Hmm, Bohr was a good scientist. I sort of liked his way of thinking.
Deleted User
Deleted User7mo ago
same. especially the fast/slow mocing neutron paradox, and why it exicites uranium at any rate...
stormycloud
stormycloudOP7mo ago
Ahh tysmmmm +solved @RDES @Deleted User @Mohit @loki61
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